[Nutitle]

omg where is this gif from?

[Miles.]

I wouldn't be mad if Chanel was the killer so long as she lives AND gets away with it AND kills Donald Trump in drag AND spares #3... but that seems unlikely.

At this point, I'm through with trying to guess Ryan's machinations. We all know how crazy he is. I'll just pray.

[Repo]

Originally posted by Miles.

At this point, I'm through with trying to guess Ryan's machinations. We all know how crazy he is

Seriously. You'd think Oberlin would have used her cameras to try and catch who the RD is

Speaking of, Oberlin is the only one who knew about the secret passage. So let's assume she's not the killer. How'd the Red Devil find it? It's also worth noting she's the only person Gigi knew in the pilot

[Dragana]

The fact that Ryan thought John being the TCK in AHS would be shocking, just further proves that Grace is the killer and has been all along.



It's more in your face than the rotting corpse of a dead stripper in a birthday cake.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by Newt

I can definitely see a situation where Oberlin orchestrates this mess and is both the real killer and lives on.

Also, it makes no sense to say that this series has no connection with anything else whatsover. Ryan has paid homage to so many different things.

See, I know the show makes several homages. But it doesn't have its entire, core setup inspired and modified to other things. Is there ever any show or movie you've seen exactly like this? All the bitchy characters being our central characters and all the pore "good" characters dying moreso than the "bad" ones? Why would that suddenly change at the end?

[Repo]

Originally posted by ₳NTi Phenex

The fact that Ryan thought John being the TCK in AHS would be shocking, just further proves that Grace is the killer and has been all along. .

John had split personality disorder, which countless writers still consider to be original, shocking, and effective at tricking audience members.

Also, "too obvious" is one of the key arguments to dismiss O as a killer..... despite there being next to no scenes of her being portrayed suspiciously

Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L

See, I know the show makes several homages. But it doesn't have its entire, core setup inspired and modified to other things. Is there ever any show or movie you've seen exactly like this? All the bitchy characters being our central characters and all the pore "good" characters dying moreso than the "bad" ones? Why would that suddenly change at the end?

That's because the only actual deaths have been random filler people. It's not like Ryan's killing off Grace or Pete or Zayday. If you look at PROMOTED MAJOR CHARACTERS, the only deaths have been #2 (bitch), Boone (douche, killer), and Gigi (killer)

Also, Ryan's inspirations for this are thinly veiled as ever. This guy can't even make it through a horror story season without ripping stuff off

[MattyTacos]

Originally posted by MusicLoverDude

So I know a guy who is a PA for this show.

He said Emma Roberts is a bitch.

If you say so!

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by Repo

Also, "too obvious" is one of the key arguments to dismiss O as a killer..... despite there being next to no scenes of her being portrayed suspiciously

Lord, when will you realize that this is a whodunnit and not an episode of the Twilight Zone?

There isn't supposed to be a giant twist at the end. It's not supposed to be a murderous episode of Punk'd. It's not supposed to be horrifyingly shocking like AHS (even though that was still horrilbly obvious). We're supposed to be figuring out who the killer is. That's the whole point of it. And all points lead to GRACE.

[Newt]

Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L

See, I know the show makes several homages. But it doesn't have its entire, core setup inspired and modified to other things. Is there ever any show or movie you've seen exactly like this? All the bitchy characters being our central characters and all the pore "good" characters dying moreso than the "bad" ones? Why would that suddenly change at the end?

I agree with you.

But like I said a few days ago, my biggest evidence for Grace being the killer is the plotline of AHS right now. That messy queen probably thinks he's so clever smh and he always knows how to disappoint. This show doesn't exist in a vacuum. I'm like 70% Grace 30% other rn

[Repo]

Originally posted by MusicLoverDude

He said Emma Roberts is a bitch.

This isn't news. Everyone knows it, and only her fanbase argues otherwise

[Repo]

Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L

Lord, when will you realize that this is a whodunnit and not an episode of the Twilight Zone?

There isn't supposed to be a giant twist at the end. It's not supposed to be a murderous episode of Punk'd. It's not supposed to be horrifyingly shocking like AHS (even though that was still horrilbly obvious). We're supposed to be figuring out who the killer is. That's the whole point of it. And all points lead to GRACE.

Name me five mainstream whodunnit slashers which DID NOT try to go for a big shock with the killer reveal. All the Screams (this show's BIGGEST INFLUENCE) did ffs

I'm well aware how whodunnits work. In fact, I can guarantee I've seen far more than you. Don't lecture me on genre conventions please

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by Repo

This isn't news. Everyone knows it, and only her fanbase argues otherwise

[Gigi]Oh. Well, finally, the truth.[/GiGi]

[Dragana]

Originally posted by Repo

John had split personality disorder, which countless writers still consider to be original, shocking, and effective at tricking audience members.

Also, "too obvious" is one of the key arguments to dismiss O as a killer..... despite there being next to no scenes of her being portrayed suspiciously

He didn't have split personalities though, so that argument is null and void. The Cortez kept him from remembering, but thats beside the point.



Chanel's been portrayed as a stone cold bitch, just like Madison, but nothing more. Her being the killer wouldn't be obvious, surprising or shocking. It would just be disappointing and sad.

Much like these theories.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by Repo

Name me five mainstream whodunnit slashers which DID NOT try to go for a big shock with the killer reveal. All the Screams (this show's BIGGEST INFLUENCE) did ffs

I'm well aware how whodunnits work. In fact, I can guarantee I've seen far more than you. Don't lecture me on genre conventions please

And, like I've said so many times, while this show pays homage to those, it's not going to change it's entire structure at the last second to suddenly get in line with those.

[Repo]

Originally posted by ₳NTi Phenex

He didn't have split personalities though, so that argument is null and void. The Cortez kept him from remembering, but thats beside the point.

,,,,,, which functions exactly like split personality disorder. Point stands

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by Repo

,,,,,, which functions exactly like split personality disorder. Point stands

But it's not split-personality disorder. It's just them saying "He just forgot temporarily!"

[Repo]

Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L

And, like I've said so many times, while this show pays homage to those, it's not going to change it's entire structure at the last second to suddenly get in line with those.

"Pays homage" isn't quite the term I used when "Whodunnit" is this show's entire genre? An d change structure? Aside from throwing Mean Girls into the whodunnit stuff, this thing has followed whodunnit roles to a T.

As said, name me five whodunnits that didn't go for a big shock reveal at the end.

Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L

But it's not split-personality disorder. It's just them saying "He just forgot temporarily!"

... yeah, that's how SPD twists in films function. High Tension anyone? The one personality does the killings, then the lead is trying to investigate/stop them, completely unaware he/she is the one doing the killings. What you want to c all it is irrelevant, it's the same basic twist.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by Repo

"Pays homage" isn't quite the term I used when "Whodunnit" is this show's entire genre? An d change structure? Aside from throwing Mean Girls into the whodunnit stuff, this thing has followed whodunnit roles to a T.

As said, name me five whodunnits that didn't go for a big shock reveal at the end.

Sigh. Your complete misinformation and insane expectations of the show are probably why you just said it's "really bad" in another thread.

[Repo]

Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L

Sigh. These complete misinformation and clear expectations of the show are probably why you just said it's "really bad" in another thread.

I said it's "really bad" because the humor isn't funny.

Would you care to explain to me how this isn't a whodunnit? Aside from dodgy humor and an army of bitches, it literally fits everything about that genre. You're literally trying to change this show's GENRE to argue who the killer is

[Dragana]

Originally posted by Repo

,,,,,, which functions exactly like split personality disorder. Point stands

If you want me to clock with you with the actual definition of DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER, then I will hun.

What Are the Symptoms of Dissociative Identity Disorder?

Dissociative identity disorder is characterized by the presence of two or more distinct or split identities or personality states that continually have power over the person's behavior. With dissociative identity disorder, there's also an inability to recall key personal information that is too far-reaching to be explained as mere forgetfulness. With dissociative identity disorder, there are also highly distinct memory variations, which fluctuate with the person's split personality.

The "alters" or different identities have their own age, sex, or race. Each has his or her own postures, gestures, and distinct way of talking. Sometimes the alters are imaginary people; sometimes they are animals. As each personality reveals itself and controls the individuals' behavior and thoughts, it's called "switching." Switching can take seconds to minutes to days. When under hypnosis, the person's different "alters" or identities may be very responsive to the therapist's requests.

Like bye. Point buried.