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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
He's an atheist. But even the Dems have to religious pander in SC.
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What many haven't picked up on is that a Sanders presidency would be a first in a couple other ways. First, Sanders would be our first Jewish president. And second, while Sanders is culturally Jewish, he has said that he's "not particularly religious" and has been described by some as agnostic.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
I think he's trying to ruin any positive impact Bush may have now that he's going to campaign for Jeb.
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I don't think George is helping at all. The polls haven't shown it at least
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by Marvin
 Throwing out the racism card just to get pity votes. Sad.
Instead of attacking her opponent, how about she talk about her own plans? |
They both attack the other on their policy... As they should. They line up too much for them not to distinguish and point out the weaknesses of the other candidates' approach to their policies and the outcomes of them.
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Now that George Bush is campaigning for Jeb(!), is he fair game for questions about World Trade Center, Iraq War and eco collapse? Careful!
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No other Republican candidate would come for Bush as hard as Trump is 
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Originally posted by Bloo
They both attack the other on their policy... As they should. They line up too much for them not to distinguish and point out the weaknesses of the other candidates' approach to their policies and the outcomes of them.
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Yeah but a church service really isn't the place 
She was pandering for the black vote that she already has. She mentioned that Bernie won't end racism but didn't say how she would either  She could have saved the attacks for another place.
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Originally posted by Marvin
Yeah but a church service really isn't the place
She was pandering for the black vote that she already has. She mentioned that Bernie won't end racism but didn't say how she would either She could have saved the attacks for another place. |
Bernie panders too so I don't see the problem?
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Originally posted by Marvin
Throwing out the racism card just to get pity votes. Sad.
Instead of attacking her opponent, how about she talk about her own plans? |
What? Did you miss the part where they mentioned him going over Criminal Justice reform, as he should, since it's one of the biggest things on the minds of most African-Americans? His ads and Hillary's ads ran in South Carolina caters towards blacks. It's about knowing your audience, wherever you're campaigning at. They both were speaking at a predominately black congregation, naturally you speak on issues that affect them and their best interests.
And she did speak on her own plans, you only got one line from a minutes long speech. ABC just decided to quote the standout line she used in her closing statement during the PBS debate. 
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I just want to point out that Hillary did not say Bernie's name in that quote, so by some peoples' standards it is not an attack
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Well she was asked to speak on the issues the country faces. That's her whole point of being there. And yes going after big banks won't end racism. She didn't lie, and black people aren't gullible to believe such a thing.
You have a problem with every little thing she does.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
All Hilary has to do is run an ad about him being an atheist in SC and 75% of blacks won't touch him. Sad but true.
He'll also never win Florida in the general election when the GOP plays ads showing his support for Fidel Castro.
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Right?! I thought the same too. An atheist/agnostic is never, ever getting the black vote lol.
And i didn't know Bernard was a Castro supporter. Wow. From the rape essays, to atheism... 
He is unelectable.
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Trump threatening to sue Cruz and run as an Independent
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RESPONSE TO THE LIES OF SENATOR CRUZ:
Ted Cruz is a totally unstable individual. He is the single biggest liar I’ve ever come across, in politics or otherwise, and I have seen some of the best of them. His statements are totally untrue and completely outrageous. It is hard to believe a person who proclaims to be a Christian could be so dishonest and lie so much.
Cruz said I would be appointing a liberal judge when in fact I will appoint a great conservative and I am the only candidate who has gone so far, at the debate, as to suggest two individuals I feel would best represent the conservative values we need to protect: William “Bill” Pryor Jr. and Diane Sykes.
Cruz says I am pro-choice, when in fact I am staunchly pro-life and have been for a long time. Like Ronald Reagan, on many issues, I have evolved.
Cruz says I am in favor of ObamaCare, when in fact I have spoken about repealing and replacing this disaster of a system at every speech throughout my campaign and since it’s inception. Meanwhile, Cruz was responsible for getting Bush to put in the judge that failed to vote against ObamaCare twice.
Cruz says I will try to take away your second amendment rights, when I am one of the strongest proponents of the right to bear arms and I say so in every speech that I have made for years. I am a proud member of the NRA and so are my sons.
Cruz has become unhinged and is lying with the hopes that his statements will go unchecked until after the election and he will save his failing campaign.
In Iowa, Cruz told thousands of Ben Carson voters that Dr. Carson had left the race and to instead vote for Ted Cruz. He apologized when the race was over. Likewise, his fraudulent voter violation form sent to Iowa voters. If Ted is going to continue to lie with such desperation, I have no choice but to fight back.
One of the ways I can fight back is to bring a lawsuit against him relative to the fact that he was born in Canada and therefore cannot be President. If he doesn’t take down his false ads and retract his lies, I will do so immediately. Additionally, the RNC should intervene and if they don’t they are in default of their pledge to me.
I am the strongest on the borders and I will build a wall, and it will be a real wall. I am strongest on illegal immigration, strongest on ISIS, strongest on the military and I will take care of our Vets. I will end common core and preserve the second amendment. I will renegotiate our trade deals and bring our jobs back to our country. I am the only person who will Make America Great Again.
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source: https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump...56647104280725
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This current Trump speech is awful. He is really doing damage to himself re-litigating Iraq when he clearly is not that well versed on it.
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Bernie panders too so I don't see the problem?
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Hers felt more desperate imo
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Originally posted by foxaylove
What? Did you miss the part where they mentioned him going over Criminal Justice reform, as he should, since it's one of the biggest things on the minds of most African-Americans? His ads and Hillary's ads ran in South Carolina caters towards blacks. It's about knowing your audience, wherever you're campaigning at. They both were speaking at a predominately black congregation, naturally you speak on issues that affect them and their best interests.
And she did speak on her own plans, you only got one line from a minutes long speech. ABC just decided to quote the standout line she used in her closing statement during the PBS debate. |
I guess  Good for her targeting her audience though.
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Originally posted by Damien M
Right?! I thought the same too. An atheist/agnostic is never, ever getting the black vote lol.
And i didn't know Bernard was a Castro supporter. Wow. From the rape essays, to atheism...
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He wrote an essay... about rape? Oh no
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'In 1961, [America] invaded Cuba, and everybody was totally convinced that Castro was the worst guy in the world,' he said.
'All the Cuban people were going to rise up in rebellion against Fidel Castro. They forgot that he educated their kids, gave their kids health care, totally transformed society.
'You know, not to say Fidel Castro and Cuba are perfect - they are certainly not - but just because Ronald Reagan dislikes these people does not mean to say the people in these nations feel the same.'
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Wow he loves Castro and hates America
He should drop out now. No one would ever trust this guy.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Marvin
He wrote an essay... about rape? Oh no
Wow he loves Castro and hates America
He should drop out now. No one would ever trust this guy.
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He also wrote that cervical cancer is linked to women not getting enough orgasms.
hihi 
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So about Nevada... you tell me if that tie came from a push poll.
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"As the exclusive supplier of MicroTargeting research and data to the Republican National Committee, the Bush-Cheney '04 campaign and several Fortune 500 companies, TargetPoint Consulting offers the gold standard in voter-relationship management," its website states.
"Surveys of people on these consumer data lists were then used to determine 'anger points' (late-term abortion, trial lawyer fees, estate taxes) that coincided with the Bush agenda for as many as 32 categories of voters, each identifiable by income, magazine subscriptions, favorite television shows and other 'flags.' Merging this data, in turn, enabled those running direct mail, precinct walking and phone bank programs to target each voter with a tailored message."
The Center for Responsive Politics reports, based on Federal Election Commission records, that between January 2004 and June 2005, the Republican National Committee paid Target Point Consulting $2,796,522 for "political consulting", $450,949 to conduct surveys, $2,700 for mailing costs, and $720 for "data enhancement".
According to Federal Election Commission records of "Itemized Disbursements" made in February 2006 by the Republican National Committee, TargetPoint Consulting, Inc., at 107 S. West Street PMB 256, Alexandria, Virginia 22314, was paid $200,000 for "Political Consulting".
In addition, the Center for Responsive Politics reports that between August 2005 and July 2006, the Republican National Committee paid TPC $1,050,000 for political consulting, $171,000 for microtargeting, $54,000 for "FEA: Voter ID", $6,000 to conduct a survey, and $669 for travel reimbursement.
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http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...onsulting,_Inc.
And because I like to be thorough, here's some further reading:
http://consumerist.com/2010/06/21/ta...to-insult-him/
http://www.nationalreview.com/campai...t-jim-geraghty
http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/201...nders-and.html
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...outh-carolina/
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Originally posted by Marvin
Hers felt more desperate imo
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
He also wrote that cervical cancer is linked to women not getting enough orgasms.
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He never wrote that, he cited it from a study. That was also over 40 years ago. But I guess what happened 40 years ago is enough to make decision on who to vote for? Good thing he never campaigned for conservatives. That would REALLY make him unelectable
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
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Omg Trump had a meltdown.
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