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Discussion: what is lady gaga"s influence on pop culture ?
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Damn the haters are out in full force today ![rip](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRLSmilies/rip_zpsec10ede9.gif)
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Originally posted by lonnie
It's like Missy Elliot, Kelis and the others didn't exist before 2008 ![too funny](images/smilies/images/smilies/priceless.gif)
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Queen of everything. Making haters seethe again!
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Originally posted by Mariano
Being the first one to do something, and making something a trend / popular is NOT THE SAME THING. When will people get that ?
Did Gaga brought back avantgarde, importance of music videos and image ? She did.
Did others followed her sound after she debuted ? They did.
What's so hard to understand ?
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you should research what exactly avant garde is before stating she's a avant garde artist, she's not
video always important, she didn't make anything MORE important so let's not
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Originally posted by Ulquiorra Allen
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What's so weird about that??
These are not weird at all
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Originally posted by GaSkrillex
are you being serious right now?
Gaga was one of the most popular artists in the 2008,2009,2010 & 2011.
She was so fresh and interesting so of course she had a lot of influence and still does on pop culture.
NOBODY is saying Gaga INVENTED any of these things. She made them more popular.
Angelina Jolie's movie Maleficent opens in 2 days, she said her main influence for the character's look was Lady Gaga.
So it's not just pop culture its EVERYTHING.
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This is to prove music had no art before lady gaga?
First off honey music is a form of art, let's start from there, her being one of the most popular artists has nothing to do with it.
All those things you claim she made more popular were even more popular before her debut. Madonna, Prince, Missy Elliot, David Bowie, MJ, Grace Jones all had made these forms of eccentricities popular at their time, Missy being one of those who did it just before Gaga did.
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Originally posted by IamCY
For the last time, we are not saying she INVENTED these things!
In the context of 21st century pop culture, these things were less prominent before Gaga imo
Madonna and MJ were both alive before 2009, but did you see everyone in pop music heavily incorporating these elements into their work?
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Basically all music videos incorporate elements that MJ innovated, like a storyline, choreographed dancing etc, it's nothing Gaga reintroduced. And I'm sure people were having storylines to their tours like Madonna did, before Gaga came around.
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Originally posted by Ulquiorra Allen
you should research what exactly avant garde is before stating she's a avant garde artist, she's not
video always important, she didn't make anything MORE important so let's not
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Maybe you should research it if you think Gaga is not an avant garde artist, because a lot of what she does is very avant garde.
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Originally posted by J03Y
the suffix "re" means AGAIN.
learn to read. ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif)
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There was nothing to be reintroduced honey, music is a form of art ![Doc](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/doc_zpsc886535c.gif)
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Originally posted by nick4bty
Damn the haters are out in full force today ![rip](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRLSmilies/rip_zpsec10ede9.gif)
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Its bcoz that list came out of 100 Most Powerful Women and as usual the QUEEN is perchedT in there, while their faves didnt make it, AGAIN.
So the FUMES are through the roof. ![lmao](http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/lmao.gif)
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Gaga also helped to put importance on music videos again, making them events. Once TRL went away, music videos kinda died down, but Gaga was one of the artists who helped to bring back that importance on them. I remember the Telephone video premiere was a really big deal.
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Originally posted by J03Y
the suffix "re" means AGAIN.
learn to read. ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif)
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but art is always in music so why does it need to be reintroduced ![confused](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
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![ahh](images/smilies/images/smilies/ahh.gif) the pictures I posted of Katy, on the last page is nothing less than what you just posted ![ahh](images/smilies/images/smilies/ahh.gif) especially the tree.
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She made some people dress differently.
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Originally posted by Jawni
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Try again ![sorry](images/smilies/images/smilies/sorry.gif)
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
Maybe you should research it if you think Gaga is not an avant garde artist, because a lot of what she does is very avant garde.
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Avant garde means pioneering or before it's time. Every single thing Gaga did had already been done before, educate yourself.
An example of an avant garde artist is Bjork.
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I'm not gonna rehash things that have already been mentioned here, but one thing that hasn't been discussed is the whole 'love yourself' movement in pop music/pop culture in 2010-2011 that Gaga arguably brought back to the mainstream. Before anyone says it, these are not ideas that Gaga 'invented', nor are they exclusively attributed to her. However, it's obvious that the trend (in 2010-2011) can be directly, or at least in large part, traced back to Gaga. Now, I could be wrong of course, but it seems to me that it was Gaga who started the 'love yourself' talk of the time, during her The Monster Ball tour (and actually even before that - I remember seeing interviews of her talking about self-acceptance back in early 2009), which led up to her self-acceptance anthem Born This Way in 2011. Ironically, during that time Gaga was making those love-it-or-hate-it speeches about self-love during her tour and recording Born This Way, other artists seemed to jump on the chance to release their own self-acceptance songs. (Ex: Katy Perry's "Firework", P!nk's "F**ckin' Perfect", Bruno Mars' "Just the Way You Are", and Kesha's "We R Who We R") Now, I'm not complaining about this in the slightest, as the more people we have pioneering and fighting for people to love themselves, the better, but is it really just a coincidence that these songs were released after/during Gaga's very public and well known campaign for self-acceptance?
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Originally posted by Jawni
![ahh](images/smilies/images/smilies/ahh.gif) the pictures I posted of Katy, on the last page is nothing less than what you just posted ![ahh](images/smilies/images/smilies/ahh.gif) especially the tree.
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You got clockedT ![sorry](images/smilies/images/smilies/sorry.gif)
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Originally posted by lonnie
Avant garde means pioneering or before it's time. Every single thing Gaga did had already been done before, educate yourself.
An example of an avant garde artist is Bjork.
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No. Avant garde means different from the norm. It pushes boundaries of what is traditionally accepted, and is usually done to garner a certain reaction from the viewer. I took a class on avant garde, Gaga was constantly referenced.
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