[GreasyBruce]

Also, if you want to look at it from a statistics perspective, since that's what the JLo stans in here seem to be doing, Shakira has sold way more albums and has bigger hits around the world. And if you look at the state of their careers right now, well...."I Luh Ya Papi" only charted in three countries and in the lower regions of their Top 100 charts. "First Love" has been out worldwide for more than a week and it has yet to chart anywhere. Shakira isn't on fire right now but "Can't Remember to Forget You" went Top 10 in almost all of the world and "Empire" and "Dare" may be flops, but they are doing way better than any JLo single since 2012.

Bigger career in the past + more relevance and success now and they are still trying to argue for "La Lopez"?

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Kurama

Like if JLo hasn't had any impact in latin American, specially with the U.S.A being considered a dream for so many latinos and she showing a latin artist could make it to the top in so many areas.

Except JLo isn't Latin American, she is an American and in Latin America she is considered an American pop star like Beyonce or Britney. Shakira is FROM Latin America and she also made it in the US and is more successful than JLo in the States right now, if anyone represents Latin Americans making it in the US it's Shakira. Who do you think the majority of Latin Americans identify with, someone like JLo who was born in the States and speaks Spanish with an accent, or Shakira who was born and grew up in Colombia? Again, the VAST VAST VAST majority of Latin Americans are from Latin America. Stop assuming that the Latinos in the States represent everyone.

Besides, the USA isn't a dream for all Latinos, what kind of stereotyping racist mess?

[Kurama]

Originally posted by Popboi.

Since when a top 80 has had more impact than a multi week top 20? The video for CRTFY got more press than any music related release JLO has done since OTF
ILYP even failed to reach the top 150 in UK meaning it sold less than 1k

Well, If Yo Put Rihanna and Jlo shaking their asses together, I'm sure it will outpeak IRTFY.
You gotta understand that nobody matches Rihanna in success during the past years, and shakira was still able to involve Rihanna in a radio flop with a radio deal.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Kurama

it's a fact;

31,590,776 views vs. 280,219,837 views.


Australia Urban (ARIA)[29] 25
Belgium Urban (Ultratop Flanders)[30] 32
US Rhythmic (Billboard)[36] 32
UK R&B (Official Charts Company)[34] 33
South Korea (Gaon Digital Chart)[32] 59
US Billboard Hot 100[35] 77
Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[31] 78
UK Singles (Official Charts Company)[33] 170

vs.

Greece (Billboard)[72] 1
Lebanon (The Official Lebanese Top 20)[80] 1
Mexico (Billboard Mexican Airplay)[82] 1
US Hot Dance Club Songs (Billboard)[103] 1
Bulgaria (IFPI)[62] 2
Dominican Republic Pop Chart (Monitor Latino)[68]
Spanish version: "Nunca Me Acuerdo de Olvidarte"
2
Poland (Polish Airplay Top 20)[86] 2
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[94] 2
Taiwan (Five Music Western Chart)[97] 2
Turkey (Number One Top 20)[98] 2
Venezuela (Record Report)[106] 2
Luxembourg (Billboard)[81] 3
Poland (Dance Top 50)[87] 3
South Korea (Gaon Chart)[93] 3
Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[59] 4
Colombia (National-Report) [66] 4
France (SNEP)[70] 5
Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[73] 5
Norway (VG-lista)[85] 5
Russia (Tophit Weekly General Airplay)[89] 5
Ukraine (Airplay Top 40)[100] 5
US Latin Pop Songs (Billboard)[104] 5
Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[61] 6
Finland (Suomen virallinen lista)[69] 6
Hungary (Single Top 20)[74] 6
Israel (Media Forest)[77] 6
Mexico (Monitor Latino)[83] 6
Scotland (Official Charts Company)[90] 6
South Africa (EMA)[92] 6
US Hot Latin Songs (Billboard)[105]
Spanish version: "Nunca Me Acuerdo de Olvidarte" 6
Brazil Hot Pop Songs[64] 7
Iceland (Lagalistinn)[75] 7
Ireland (IRMA)[76] 7
Portugal Digital Songs (Billboard)[88] 7
Slovakia (IFPI)[91] 7
Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[96] 7
Germany (Media Control AG)[71] 8
Sweden (Sverigetopplistan)[95] 8
Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[60] 9


Guess which song is which?

[Kurama]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Except JLo isn't Latin American, she is an American and in Latin America she is considered an American pop star like Beyonce or Britney. Shakira is FROM Latin America and she also made it in the US and is more successful than JLo in the States right now.

Besides, the USA isn't a dream for all Latinos, what kind of stereotyping racist mess?

Just because she isn't Latin American, it doesn't mean she didn't affect Latin America.
Every latin american actor for example would like to make big in the US, who will they look up to? Who will they look up to when they think about success in the US? JLO. US is the main target for everybody, even me, living here in England for almost 10 years would love to go there and succeed there.

Which kind of impact did Shakira have over a little girl from argentina? The impact to date the ex president son? JLo had that cultural impact all over the world that transgressed thru music, fashion, movies and tv, while shakira is only music.

[Pristine]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Also, if you want to look at it from a statistics perspective, since that's what the JLo stans in here seem to be doing, Shakira has sold way more albums and has bigger hits around the world. And if you look at the state of their careers right now, well...."I Luh Ya Papi" only charted in three countries and in the lower regions of their Top 100 charts. "First Love" has been out worldwide for more than a week and it has yet to chart anywhere. Shakira isn't on fire right now but "Can't Remember to Forget You" went Top 10 in almost all of the world and "Empire" and "Dare" may be flops, but they are doing way better than any JLo single since 2012.

Bigger career in the past + more relevance and success now and they are still trying to argue for "La Lopez"?

dont worry boo. We already know which World Cup anthem is gonna slay. And it aint J-lo

[Kurama]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

31,590,776 views vs. 280,219,837 views.


Australia Urban (ARIA)[29] 25
Belgium Urban (Ultratop Flanders)[30] 32
US Rhythmic (Billboard)[36] 32
UK R&B (Official Charts Company)[34] 33
South Korea (Gaon Digital Chart)[32] 59
US Billboard Hot 100[35] 77
Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[31] 78
UK Singles (Official Charts Company)[33] 170

vs.

Greece (Billboard)[72] 1
Lebanon (The Official Lebanese Top 20)[80] 1
Mexico (Billboard Mexican Airplay)[82] 1
US Hot Dance Club Songs (Billboard)[103] 1
Bulgaria (IFPI)[62] 2
Dominican Republic Pop Chart (Monitor Latino)[68]
Spanish version: "Nunca Me Acuerdo de Olvidarte"
2
Poland (Polish Airplay Top 20)[86] 2
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[94] 2
Taiwan (Five Music Western Chart)[97] 2
Turkey (Number One Top 20)[98] 2
Venezuela (Record Report)[106] 2
Luxembourg (Billboard)[81] 3
Poland (Dance Top 50)[87] 3
South Korea (Gaon Chart)[93] 3
Austria (Ö3 Austria Top 40)[59] 4
Colombia (National-Report) [66] 4
France (SNEP)[70] 5
Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[73] 5
Norway (VG-lista)[85] 5
Russia (Tophit Weekly General Airplay)[89] 5
Ukraine (Airplay Top 40)[100] 5
US Latin Pop Songs (Billboard)[104] 5
Belgium (Ultratop 50 Wallonia)[61] 6
Finland (Suomen virallinen lista)[69] 6
Hungary (Single Top 20)[74] 6
Israel (Media Forest)[77] 6
Mexico (Monitor Latino)[83] 6
Scotland (Official Charts Company)[90] 6
South Africa (EMA)[92] 6
US Hot Latin Songs (Billboard)[105]
Spanish version: "Nunca Me Acuerdo de Olvidarte" 6
Brazil Hot Pop Songs[64] 7
Iceland (Lagalistinn)[75] 7
Ireland (IRMA)[76] 7
Portugal Digital Songs (Billboard)[88] 7
Slovakia (IFPI)[91] 7
Switzerland (Schweizer Hitparade)[96] 7
Germany (Media Control AG)[71] 8
Sweden (Sverigetopplistan)[95] 8
Belgium (Ultratop 50 Flanders)[60] 9


Guess which song is which?

only after ou answer me which one had a very antecipated featuring with the pop queen Rihanna, the one that had a radio deal and was officialy released to radios, ILYP WAS NEVER and a lesbian video.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Kurama

Just because she isn't Latin American, it doesn't mean she didn't affect Latin America.
Every latin american actor for example would like to make big in the US, who will they look up to? Who will they look up to when they think about success in the US? JLO. US is the main target for everybody, even me, living here in England for almost 10 years would love to go there and succeed there.

Which kind of impact did Shakira have over a little girl from argentina? The impact to date the ex president son? JLo had that cultural impact all over the world that transgressed thru music, fashion, movies and tv, while shakira is only music.

You are absolutely delusional. You must be trolling.

What impact did she have on a little girl from Argentina? Maybe showing that little girl that a Latin girl like her could go on to conquer the global music market and have huge selling albums everywhere and huge hits songs, and could go on to become one of the biggest celebrities in the world? And Shakira is only music because she is a musician and an artist.

[Kurama]

well, JLo is winning this poll for a reason, so you get used to it and learn how to deal with it.


I wish you success in your next endeavors, but now my boyfriend is arrving and we gonna have some moment if you know what i mean.

See ya around, and sorry for clocking you, i never meant to hurt you and don't forget to watch the BBMA'S.

[DayFusion]

Shakira.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Kurama

only after ou answer me which one had a very antecipated featuring with the pop queen Rihanna, the one that had a radio deal and was officialy released to radios, ILYP WAS NEVER and a lesbian video.

No, it was a gay video with half naked men desperately trying to appeal to gay fans and failing.


Second single Empire:

33,180,558 views (already passed I Luh Ya Papi)

Lebanon (The Official Lebanese Top 20)[34] 9
Belgium (Ultratip Wallonia)[28] 15
Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[32] 17
Scotland (Official Charts Company)[35] 21
UK Singles (Official Charts Company)[38] 25
Bulgaria (IFPI)[29] 27
Croatia (Airplay Radio Chart)[31] 29
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[17] 29
US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[40] 36
Slovakia (IFPI)[36] 55
US Billboard Hot 100[39] 58
Ireland (IRMA)[33] 60
France (SNEP)[18] 82
Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[30] 94

(already outcharted I Luh Ya Papi)


Try again

[JLO_FeEN]

So much jibber jabber from the Shakira stans yet the poll speaks for itself.

J.Lo >>>>>> the other one



I mean we could go back and forth all nite but it won't change anything. Give it up gals.

[Kurama]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

No, it was a gay video with half naked men desperately trying to appeal to gay fans and failing.


Second single Empire:

33,180,558 views (already passed I Luh Ya Papi)

Lebanon (The Official Lebanese Top 20)[34] 9
Belgium (Ultratip Wallonia)[28] 15
Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[32] 17
Scotland (Official Charts Company)[35] 21
UK Singles (Official Charts Company)[38] 25
Bulgaria (IFPI)[29] 27
Croatia (Airplay Radio Chart)[31] 29
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[17] 29
US Mainstream Top 40 (Billboard)[40] 36
Slovakia (IFPI)[36] 55
US Billboard Hot 100[39] 58
Ireland (IRMA)[33] 60
France (SNEP)[18] 82
Canada (Canadian Hot 100)[30] 94

(already outcharted I Luh Ya Papi)


Try again

girl, you should stop. You are comparing singles sent to radios with a song that was NEVER SENT TO ANY RADIO IN THE WORLD, bye girl, let me have some good sex with mio amore

[Popboi.]

Originally posted by Kurama

girl, you should stop. You are comparing singles sent to radios with a song that was NEVER SENT TO ANY RADIO IN THE WORLD, bye girl, let me have some good sex with mio amore

They didn't send it for a reason...

[JLO_FeEN]

You ShakiStans are so salty.

Let it go Kumara. The poll speaks for itself. Let them stay mad by themselves.

Just another day another win in this J.Lo dominated world.

[Popboi.]

Originally posted by JLO_FeEN

You ShakiStans are so salty.

Let it go Kumara. The poll speaks for itself. Let thrm stay mad by themselves.

The fact you guys use an atrl poll as receipt of JLo's impact is rather tragic.

[Pristine]

Originally posted by Popboi.

The fact you guys use an atrl poll as receipt of JLo's impact is rather tragic.

well they dont gots billboard

[Skywalker]

ICON.

[JLO_FeEN]

Originally posted by Popboi.

The fact you guys use an atrl poll as receipt of JLo's impact is rather tragic.

The fact that you guys still have to continue to address us after X number of pages is rather tragic.

[Popboi.]

Originally posted by JLO_FeEN

You ShakiStans are so salty.

Let it go Kumara. The poll speaks for itself. Let them stay mad by themselves.

Just another day another win in this J.Lo dominated world.

Originally posted by JLO_FeEN

The fact that you guys still have to continue to address us after X number of pages is rather tragic.

The hypocrisy.