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Discussion: Why do people think Beyonce didn't work hard?
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Matthew had his own business, how can he not have a lawyer? ![toofunny2](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/faces/toofunny2_zpsb54f2d2d.gif)
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What? He worked at Xerox ![Doc](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/doc_zpsc886535c.gif)
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Originally posted by Monkey_Juice
The HIVE always try to make beyonce seem as if she did everything herself, her solo career was basically already SET UP for her from the moment DC Began.
Her DAD made her LEAD of HIS band and made sure she ALWAYS had the SPOTLIGHT! Beyonce solo career is also mostly based off her success with DC (Why do you think the Hive love to add DC number's to her solo career, But yet not to Kelly or Michelle's) Other artist have sold JUST AS MUCH if not MORE Then beyonce without the need to add past band record sales, which is another reason why I don't think she has worked the hardest.
She is the hardest worker when it comes to PERFECTING HER CRAFT! But I don't think she had to work harder then the other girls, who most of them did not have a dad to push them/ Favor them and make them lead singer's of bands.
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Originally posted by maiko
What? He worked at Xerox ![Doc](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/doc_zpsc886535c.gif)
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The displayed ignorance has become entertaining. ![lmao](http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/lmao.gif)
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
I'll drop a post.
Yes she worked hard, practiced and rehearsed. But so did every other popstar. You don't think J.Lo, Kelly C, or Britney rehearsed? They are all on that same level.
Beyonce had it much easier. First, she had family support, which goes a LONG way. She had someone to PAY for her singling lessons, dancing lessons. She didn't work multiple jobs like J.Lo and gain her skills over period of YEARS like she had to. She had a HOUSE and CONSISTENT INCOME, which allowed her to focus on her craft, unlike Katy Perry or Madonna. She got her deal relatively easy, as opposed to someone like Gaga who was dropped from multiple labels. She did not write he own material at the start. She had people who she trusted to negotiate her deals for her. She had the emotional support of group members.
Yes she worked hard an an INDIVIDUAL level, but her surroundings were delivered to her on a silver platter.
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I've heard some ridiculous things on ATRL but this one takes the cake....
Her supportive family and stable enviornment may have HELPED her but it is not the sole reason why she was successful. She is not to blame for what she was born into just like JLo, Gaga and Katy are not to blame for the hard times they went through. Now mind you, noone is saying that those women are not hardworkers, but how can you say Beyonce is not a hard worker because she was lucky enough to have a family that was willing to invest their lively hood to make her dreams come true?
If anything, that is what made her work HARDER. She was not only working to fulfill her dreams, she was working so her family wouldn't have to live on the street because they invested everything for her to make it! Beyonce had no choice but to work hard....
Like you people are so blinded by hate that you can't even think about her situation logically, all you see is ' Ooh her daddy had money and she had people she trusted around her ' like having that is supposed to somehow make opportunities pop up for her, NO she worked hard and her father worked hard and her mother worked hard and together they built the brand that is Beyonce and through her tireless dedication she has created a legacy that will never be diminished
Just stop hating, if you don't like her then don't like her, but dont you dare try to downplay all she has done because your fave isn't as big as her or as big as you would like them to be. Their failures have nothing to do with Beyonce.
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Originally posted by theerealest
I've heard some ridiculous things on ATRL but this one takes the cake....
Her supportive family and stable enviornment may have HELPED her but it is not the sole reason why she was successful. She is not to blame for what she was born into just like JLo, Gaga and Katy are not to blame for the hard times they went through. Now mind you, noone is saying that those women are not hardworkers, but how can you say Beyonce is not a hard worker because she was lucky enough to have a family that was willing to invest their lively hood to make her dreams come true?
If anything, that is what made her work HARDER. She was not only working to fulfill her dreams, she was working so her family wouldn't have to live on the street because they invested everything for her to make it! Beyonce had no choice but to work hard....
Like you people are so blinded by hate that you can't even think about her situation logically, all you see is ' Ooh her daddy had money and she had people she trusted around her ' like having that is supposed to somehow make opportunities pop up for her, NO she worked hard and her father worked hard and her mother worked hard and together they built the brand that is Beyonce and through her tireless dedication she has created a legacy that will never be diminished
Just stop hating, if you don't like her then don't like her, but dont you dare try to downplay all she has done because your fave isn't as big as her or as big as you would like them to be. Their failures have nothing to do with Beyonce.
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It's not hating, we're discussing the thread topic.
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Originally posted by beyawnse
Lol, NO. I love Solange but NO. She's no where near Beyoncé vocally.
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Originally posted by King B
Not you having to resort to making up lies!
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They both have quality tone. Same amount of Octaves. Solange has a higher range and has hit whistle notes live on several occasions, so unless you have some secret tea that I don't know about, don't be so ignorant.
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Ya'll must not know Beyonce WANTED to do what she does since she was born right? DC was not Matthew waking up one day deciding to manage a girl group, DC was started because of the aspirations Beyonce had, she was inspired by the Jackson 5 and Micheal
Like....you people spend so much time reading blogs or other peoples opinions and lies about her and believe those more than the stories from people who were ACTUALLY THERE!
fools dont even know her story yet you have such strong opinions about what she has done....the least you could do is get all your facts straight, your only making yourself look stupid and bitter
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I love how people keep saying "well so and so worked harder". This isn't about who worked harder it's about denying the fact that Beyonce has worked very hard period. Which she has and still does. The level of success she has is not made overnight. It's made through hard ass work. I'm not even a Beyonce fan but give credit where it's due. Damn.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
It's not hating, we're discussing the thread topic.
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you are hating if you have to make up lies and downplay someones hardwork just because you dont like them but i digress
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
I'll drop a post.
Yes she worked hard, practiced and rehearsed. But so did every other popstar. You don't think J.Lo, Kelly C, or Britney rehearsed? They are all on that same level.
Beyonce had it much easier. First, she had family support, which goes a LONG way. She had someone to PAY for her singling lessons, dancing lessons. She didn't work multiple jobs like J.Lo and gain her skills over period of YEARS like she had to. She had a HOUSE and CONSISTENT INCOME, which allowed her to focus on her craft, unlike Katy Perry or Madonna. She got her deal relatively easy, as opposed to someone like Gaga who was dropped from multiple labels. She did not write he own material at the start. She had people who she trusted to negotiate her deals for her. She had the emotional support of group members.
Yes she worked hard an an INDIVIDUAL level, but her surroundings were delivered to her on a silver platter.
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The level of stupid in this post is just.
I didn't know having support from family members who have no connections in the music industry made having success easier.
I didn't know honing and polishing your talent somehow means you work less hard. Did the voice coaches and dance teachers just wave a magic wand on Bey and gave her all her talent like that? She didn't have to put in any effort into actually getting better?
She's been working non-stop since she was a damn kid, even to the point of sacrificing a social life. Where would she have had the time to work other jobs?
A house and consistent income? Shows how little you know, Matthew quit his high paying job, they moved out of their fancy house and into a little apartment while surviving only on Tina's income as a hairdresser in order to focus completely on getting DC off the ground.
And of course she had people to negotiate deals for her, where do you live where minors can sign contracts?
Even people who don't like Bey give her props for her work ethic, so your bias against her is even more obvious. Sit down.
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LOL @ having voice lessons and dance coaches equating to you not having to work as hard as anyone else. To anyone with common damn sense that would make you a HARDER worker for improving your craft while others just sift by on their "natural" talents. Both words, natural and talent, is used very lightly by the way.
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Lately I saw a top ten list of the celebrities that were already rich before fame... And guess what ? bey was not a part of them...
Taylor was number 3 and gaga number 2!!
And I absolutely believe that bey is the hardest working singer out there
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Beyonce has worked very hard, and that's why she's so talented and successful. It's evident in her work, her performances, and her critical acclaim.
To me, someone like Britney didn't have to work hard. She could never sing remarkably well, but she was attractive, so the celebrity came easily to her, which isn't her fault. Maybe she worked hard as a dancer for awhile, but that was it. She's even brain-dead now, and still somehow puts out albums and "performs" on tours. It's all done for her, she doesn't have to work hard at singing or dancing because she lip syncs and her choreography is trash now.
Beyonce earns her success an that's why she's the best.
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Ohh big issue...
There are a lot of thinks proving this but they will never be accepted in a site like this by her fans sooo unfair trouble!
Her dad, the way that she promoted by Destiny's Child group and the fact that she is a solo singer like 12 years now and she did only 4-5 albums mean a lot!!!
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Originally posted by Javan
They both have quality tone. Same amount of Octaves. Solange has a higher range and has hit whistle notes live on several occasions, so unless you have some secret tea that I don't know about, don't be so ignorant.
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What kinda BS. It's obvious you don't know anything. First, no one with any legit vocal knowledge would classify two singers based on "tone quality"(Wtf), range, or their ability to hit whistle notes seeing as it is a natural ability.
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dead at all the posts talking about her upbringing and how her parents had money
Her parents had decent paying jobs. They did NOT come from old money nor were they wealthy folks like some of y'all are implying.
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Originally posted by Javan
They both have quality tone. Same amount of Octaves. Solange has a higher range and has hit whistle notes live on several occasions, so unless you have some secret tea that I don't know about, don't be so ignorant.
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WTF?!? They don't even have the same vocal fach! Dead @you saying they have the same amount of Octaves, but Solange having a higher range.A contradictory mess. Please do your research before spewing such nonsense.
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Originally posted by King B
What kinda BS. It's obvious you don't know anything. First, no one with any legit vocal knowledge would classify two singers based on "tone quality"(Wtf), range, or their ability to hit whistle notes seeing as it is a natural ability.
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Sis, the ignorance is staggering. The fact he/she thinks they have the same vocal fach, shows how limited their knowledge is on the topic.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Javan
They both have quality tone. Same amount of Octaves. Solange has a higher range and has hit whistle notes live on several occasions, so unless you have some secret tea that I don't know about, don't be so ignorant.
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You've got to be kidding me. You obviously haven't the slightest on what Beyoncé is vocally capable of.
http://youtu.be/jaN2TbWMvuw
(This is why she is the queen)
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