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Discussion: Are you a Feminist?
Member Since: 8/18/2013
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You can't stand people who peacefully protest for equal rights?
A women bought you into this world, so people shouldn't disrespect them.
Yes, I am a femininist. It Doesn't mean us women wants to get treated the same as men, but just equally.
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Member Since: 6/29/2011
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absolutely not. the idea of femenism is sexist if looked at fundamentally. we should be seeking an equality of the sexes. femenism calls for specific female power. it calls for a banding together based on gender. if someone in a speech were to say *women are the best! go women! you are amazing because you are a woman!* the crowd would applaud for empowering women. if the same were said but replace women with men, you'd be called a sexist pig
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Member Since: 2/17/2012
Posts: 33,611
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Originally posted by helloDer
absolutely not. the idea of femenism is sexist if looked at fundamentally. we should be seeking an equality of the sexes. femenism calls for specific female power. it calls for a banding together based on gender. if someone in a speech were to say *women are the best! go women! you are amazing because you are a woman!* the crowd would applaud for empowering women. if the same were said but replace women with men, you'd be called a sexist pig
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Because women are the ones who are victims of the patriarchy like 99.999% of the time. They need to be empowered in spite of the odds against them... men don't.
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
Posts: 12,811
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The textbook meaning of 'feminist' is a complete 180 from the ******** that passes for 'femnism' today, so no.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 10/3/2010
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People who argue the semantics of "feminism" and talk about textbook and definition and **** like that are the worst.
There's no concern for equal rights, there's only concern over a shallow label. That's really despicable if you ask me, and I'm seeing a lot of it in this thread.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 1,859
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Yes, and I'm a maninist too. So many of my friends are now way more confident in expressing non-macho interests thanks to me. I've even made them stans
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Not really, I like to be dominated by strong men but, at the same time, I want equal rights... I think I have mixed feelings about this situation.
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Member Since: 6/29/2011
Posts: 11,522
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Originally posted by Shapes
People who argue the semantics of "feminism" and talk about textbook and definition and **** like that are the worst.
There's no concern for equal rights, there's only concern over a shallow label. That's really despicable if you ask me, and I'm seeing a lot of it in this thread.
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language is a powerful tool and a dangerous weapon. you must wield it clearly. i'm for equality of the sexes, not for femenism
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 9/22/2011
Posts: 16,128
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Originally posted by Shapes
People who argue the semantics of "feminism" and talk about textbook and definition and **** like that are the worst.
There's no concern for equal rights, there's only concern over a shallow label. That's really despicable if you ask me, and I'm seeing a lot of it in this thread.
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! Tell the truth.
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
Posts: 12,811
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Originally posted by Shapes
People who argue the semantics of "feminism" and talk about textbook and definition and **** like that are the worst.
There's no concern for equal rights, there's only concern over a shallow label. That's really despicable if you ask me, and I'm seeing a lot of it in this thread.
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this makes about zero sense.
How can you be for something if it isnt defined. SMFH.
Its opinions like this is why people dont care for feminism.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 10,745
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Feminism is not something that has a definitive construct; it's definition is fluid to match / mold with the current social climate. Today's feminism may promote essentially the same goals and ideals as when it originated, but the way of professing it / making the point is much different than how it used to be done.
If you don't consider yourself a feminist, you're basically saying that women have it fine in the world and that they, as a whole, aren't stifled by antiquated societal perceptions that they are inferior to men. I think it's ridiculous to say you're not a feminist because it's 'reverse sexism', that's a hypothetical construct created by white men in power who are afraid of losing it, but I'm sleep tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
Posts: 3,459
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Originally posted by helloDer
language is a powerful tool and a dangerous weapon. you must wield it clearly. i'm for equality of the sexes, not for femenism
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That's what feminism is... female empowerment is more accepted than male empowerment because at the moment, women are valued less than men. We are unequal in many ways. Male empowerment is unethical because men currently have everything. They have a bigger advantage, more rights and more opportunities than we do more in every way. What more can they want? Male privilege exists just like white privilege does.
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Member Since: 3/3/2012
Posts: 13,073
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Yes, I don't know if I should bother reading the rest of this thread, knowing how ignorant and self absorbed some ATRL members can be.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 4,060
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Originally posted by Su-Barbie-A
Yes, I don't know if I should bother reading the rest of this thread, knowing how ignorant and self absorbed some ATRL members can be.
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Don't bother reading the rest
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Member Since: 3/3/2012
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I don't understand how some LGBT+ members can't say they aren't feminist.
So you only care about having equal rights as straight people but females can go and screw themselves?
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
Posts: 3,895
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Most people think feminists are not those who want equal rights for women, but those over the top, men hating women. There is a huge stigma attached to it, and as a gay woman who has been in the feminist scene, I can confirm that there are some women who really live up to every cliché. Some are too radical and have lost touch with what's really important. They discuss about theories that are completely detached from reality instead of doing something to improve the situation, especially for gay women.
I also can imagine that most people who read this post will think of me as a butch lesbian who is burning her bras and most of that is due to the negative image most people have about feminists, and it's also partially the feminists' own fault. That's why I don't blame anyone who doesn't consider herself a feminist.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
Posts: 13,110
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I believe in equality for all.
But feminism as a word has become so increasingly linked to hating men and outrageousness ala PETA that I don't think it's a positive word to be associated with.
And yes, I believe all people should be treated equally. **** what society expects out of each gender in terms of manners, behavior, etc.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 3,551
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Originally posted by qurl
Feminism is not something that has a definitive construct; it's definition is fluid to match / mold with the current social climate. Today's feminism may promote essentially the same goals and ideals as when it originated, but the way of professing it / making the point is much different than how it used to be done.
If you don't consider yourself a feminist, you're basically saying that women have it fine in the world and that they, as a whole, aren't stifled by antiquated societal perceptions that they are inferior to men. I think it's ridiculous to say you're not a feminist because it's 'reverse sexism', that's a hypothetical construct created by white men in power who are afraid of losing it, but I'm sleep tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Yes. Exactly.
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
Posts: 12,811
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Originally posted by qurl
Feminism is not something that has a definitive construct; it's definition is fluid to match / mold with the current social climate. Today's feminism may promote essentially the same goals and ideals as when it originated, but the way of professing it / making the point is much different than how it used to be done.
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And this is how?
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If you don't consider yourself a feminist, you're basically saying that women have it fine in the world and that they, as a whole, aren't stifled by antiquated societal perceptions that they are inferior to men. I think it's ridiculous to say you're not a feminist because it's 'reverse sexism', that's a hypothetical construct created by white men in power who are afraid of losing it, but I'm sleep tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Following this logic, do you consider yourself a mannist then? Men are discriminated against as well.
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
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