Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (October 23-30, 2013) - Page 8

Reb'l Rêveur

Will Unconditionally chart next issue? Where?

Superiore

Predictions

1. Royals (=)
2. Roar (=)
3. Wrecking Ball (=)
4. Wake Me Up (=)
5. Hold On, We're Going Home (=)
6. The Fox (=)
7. Holy Grail (+1)
8. Applause (+1)
9. Counting Stars (+6)
10. Demons (+2)
11. Do What U Want (DEBUT)
12. Blurred Lines (-2)

7-9 and 10-12 are really close one another so between the groups of three there may be changes.

cuneytb

omg at Tennis court charting higher than team

team has airplay and charts higher on itunes

i guees tennis court is doing great because of vevo and spotify

Tsuko

My Hitta at #20 lol.

ClashAndBurn

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Originally posted by Retro

So I take it all sales of "Do What U Want" will count for this tracking week?

The first hour will not, since it came out a little earlier than it was supposed to

toshibatoshiba

What was Bruno Mars' Gorilla streaming number from last week? I was hoping the release of the video would propel it to the Top 10 but I was wrong, not even Top 20.

Time to release Moonshine or Young Girls!

Tsuko

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Originally posted by toshibatoshiba

Time to release Moonshine or Young Girls!

No, not yet. They should wait until Gorilla has peaked before releasing something else.

Retro

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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn

The first hour will not, since it came out a little earlier than it was supposed to

True, but I mean most should count given that it clearly didn't have a significant number of sales in that hour. Nothing drastic like Bieber's sales split, anyway.

DivaDown

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Originally posted by umichgrad07

That's how it works for Hot Digital Songs but not the Hot 100.

No... that's how it works on the Hot 100 also.

umich

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Originally posted by DivaDown

No... that's how it works on the Hot 100 also.

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(For the purposes of Hot 100 rankings, aggregate sales and returns contribute to the song's overall point total.)

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...for-third-week

Billboard has already implied that this is how it works. It explains why Miley jumped to #2 last week and why Drake jumped to #4 a few weeks back.

DivaDown

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Originally posted by umichgrad07

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...for-third-week

Billboard has already implied that this is how it works. It explains why Miley jumped to #2 last week and why Drake jumped to #4 a few weeks back.

That means the returns are taken from the total...

...they rose for other reasons. They didn't rise because people returned the single.

biomind101

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Originally posted by DivaDown

That means the returns are taken from the total...

...they rose for other reasons. They didn't rise because people returned the single.

Umich is right. The article is very clear about the rules for Hot 100 points

highwind44029

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Originally posted by DivaDown

That means the returns are taken from the total...

...they rose for other reasons. They didn't rise because people returned the single.

No, read it again.

It means the returns also contribute to the total. They would specifically state that returns are subtracted if it was.

Edit: Mess @ the Halloween version of

DivaDown

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Originally posted by biomind101

Umich is right. The article is very clear about the rules for Hot 100 points

Unless it's clarified elsewhere, the article reads that sales are taken from the total then used towards the Hot 100.

It's silly to believe Billboard would count returns towards sales.

Tsuko

I don't think they count the returns, but they don't subtract them either.

For example if a song sells 200,000, and 60,000 complete the album, then in the past that'd count as 140,000 sales for the Hot 100, but now they'd count it as 200,000. They would not count the returns and treat it as 260,000 sales, but they wouldn't subtract them either now.

DivaDown

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Originally posted by Tsuko

I don't think they count the returns, but they don't subtract them either.

For example if a song sells 200,000, and 60,000 complete the album, then in the past that'd count as 140,000 sales for the Hot 100, but now they'd count it as 200,000. They would not count the returns and treat it as 260,000 sales, but they wouldn't subtract them either now.

But the article is stating it's the aggregate total... in other words, you combine the two.

So if the sales were 200k & there were 60k returned singles due to CMA, the equation (by definition) would be:

(200k) + (-60k) = 140k

And that's what Billboard is stating they do.

Tylerbv

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Originally posted by DivaDown

But the article is stating it's the aggregate total... in other words, you combine the two.

So if the sales were 200k & there was 60k returned singles due to CMA the equation (by definition) would be:

(200k) + (-60k) = 140k

And that's what Billboard is stating they do.

No it's not

How else do you explain HOWGH and Wrecking Ball's jumps during their album weeks? Billboard is saying they don't count those CMA "sales" as actual sales for the song, but for Hot 100 purposes, they add them to the weekly sales.

DivaDown

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Originally posted by Tylerbv

No it's not

How else do you explain HOWGH and Wrecking Ball's jumps during their album weeks? Billboard is saying they don't count those CMA "sales" as actual sales for the song, but for Hot 100 purposes, they add them to the weekly sales.

...it was their streaming & airplay responsible for the boosts.

Sales are not the only component to the Hot 100...

Rico Shameless v2

They use the sales for the week as normal and count CMA towards Digital, it's very simple.

Drake and Aviici were neck in neck basically in streaming and airplay that week, but WMU sold 182k and HOWGH wasn't to be found on HDS top ten. The only way that makes sense is they counted his sales as normal on the Hot 100. It's literally impossible for Drake to be behind over 100k in sales and just a 2 or 3 points ahead in airplay/streaming and made that move. It's not that complicated.

DivaDown

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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2

They use the sales for the week as normal and count CMA towards Digital, it's very simple.

Drake and Aviici were neck in neck basically in streaming and airplay that week, but WMU sold 182k and HOWGH wasn't to be found on HDS top ten. The only way that makes sense is they counted his sales as normal on the Hot 100. It's literally impossible for Drake to be behind over 100k in sales and just a 2 or 3 points ahead in airplay/streaming and made that move. It's not that complicated.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...crowns-hot-100

HOWGH after the album release saw a 65% increase on paid On-Demand services (jumping from #4 to #1). An 86% increase in Streaming (jumping from #12 to #6). Also, it had a 13% increase in Audience Impressions to 120 million. THAT'S why it had a jump in the Hot 100. Miley had almost the identical thing happen. Its not that complicated.