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Discussion: People say Gaga copies Madonna but...
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Madonna copied Kylie Minogue at Super Bowl.
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Originally posted by InsureTer
Wrong! Gaga became famous once those Xtina comparison kicked gear.
Even Gaga said she should send Xtina flowers because now everyone is paying attention to her. Or, have we forgotten this?
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You can't possibly take that seriously, can you? It was meant in jest, sure it gave her some exposure but it did nil. It was Just Dance and her then futuristic style that catapulted her.
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Originally posted by Monster
You can't possibly take that seriously, can you? It was meant in jest, sure it gave her some exposure but it did nil. It was Just Dance and her then futuristic style that catapulted her.
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I think Gaga had everything at the right moment
Kanye, Rihanna, Britney, Madonna, Kylie, Chris Brown and various others created an invironment where electro and dance music already became populair, add the rising interest to DJ's to that and you had the perfect environment for an album as "The Fame" to become big.
She just had the luck that the right things came on the right moment and that her style and music complimented that and setted her apart. I agree the Christina thing was just a little push.
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Doesn't Christina actually admit that she is paying homage to Madonna though? In many of Gaga's earliest interviews, she always credited Queen and David Bowie as being her main influences despite that she has been labelled as the second coming of Madonna since the beginning.
Anyway, it isn't about paying homage. Christina is influenced by her but she isn't trying to be the next Madonna. Gaga on the other hand is taking parts of Madonna's work and regurgitating it in a modern context. She isn't directly copying her, but the influence and ambition to be this "I'm going to be different and change pop music" thing is obvious. Anyway, I don't even think Madonna and Gaga are that similar. Madonna pushed the boundaries, but she did it in a way where it had a real message. It wasn't over-the-top and made perfect sense unlike Gaga, who is just gone to the most ridiculous extremes to prove nothing. Just my opinion. Don't take offense.
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Originally posted by B2R4D
Doesn't Christina actually admit that she is paying homage to Madonna though? In many of Gaga's earliest interviews, she always credited Queen and David Bowie as being her main influences despite that she has been labelled as the second coming of Madonna since the beginning.
Anyway, it isn't about paying homage. Christina is influenced by her but she isn't trying to be the next Madonna. Gaga on the other hand is taking parts of Madonna's work and regurgitating it in a modern context. She isn't directly copying her, but the influence and ambition to be this "I'm going to be different and change pop music" thing is obvious. Anyway, I don't even think Madonna and Gaga are that similar. Madonna pushed the boundaries, but she did it in a way where it had a real message. It wasn't over-the-top and made perfect sense unlike Gaga, who is just gone to the most ridiculous extremes to prove nothing. Just my opinion. Don't take offense.
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I agree with this aswell
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Why does everything have to come down to Xtina?
All of this is OR and your opinion.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Christina taking things from Madonna didn't make her famous, though.
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Niether did Gaga's. Just Dance and Poker Face were her two biggest hits, and they came before Gaga started acting 'weird'.
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Originally posted by InsureTer
And truth be told, why was that blood gimmick shocking? Slit-Knot did that years ago... and even then, it wasn't shocking. I never got it.
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Someone se uses fake blood and it's a copy right? So if I use fire on stage am I copying the first ever to use fire? How about glitter? What if we both use the word 'tonight' in one of our songs?
Seriously, people take this copying thing way too far. It's gotten to a point where if Gaga wears the same color dress as Madonna then she copied her.
Besides, Slit-Knot probably didn't do it too well, as you didn't even know that their name was actually SlipKnot.
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The funniest thing about the GagaxMadonna comparisons is that Gaga references people like Bowie and Cher way more than she references Madonna, but because both Madonna and Gaga are blonde-headed, Italian girls, people only point out the GagaxMadonna similarities.
Everyone copies everyone, but it's only a crime when Gaga does it.
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Originally posted by B2R4D
Doesn't Christina actually admit that she is paying homage to Madonna though? In many of Gaga's earliest interviews, she always credited Queen and David Bowie as being her main influences despite that she has been labelled as the second coming of Madonna since the beginning.
Anyway, it isn't about paying homage. Christina is influenced by her but she isn't trying to be the next Madonna. Gaga on the other hand is taking parts of Madonna's work and regurgitating it in a modern context. She isn't directly copying her, but the influence and ambition to be this "I'm going to be different and change pop music" thing is obvious. Anyway, I don't even think Madonna and Gaga are that similar. Madonna pushed the boundaries, but she did it in a way where it had a real message. It wasn't over-the-top and made perfect sense unlike Gaga, who is just gone to the most ridiculous extremes to prove nothing. Just my opinion. Don't take offense.
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She credited Queen and Bowie because during The Fame Era, that's who she referenced a lot. Her name is from a Queen song and the lightning bolt she wore was from Bowie.
She doesn't have to credit Madonna every single day because, and I know this is hard to comprehend, not everything she does comes from Madonna. Madonna is not and was not original, so maybe Gaga shouldn't credit Madonna since Madonna doesn't deserve said credit.
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Originally posted by vengabeat
The funniest thing about the GagaxMadonna comparisons is that Gaga references people like Bowie and Cher way more than she references Madonna, but because both Madonna and Gaga are blonde-headed, Italian girls, people only point out the GagaxMadonna similarities.
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I'm a huge fan of Bowie, Madonna, and Gaga, but I've never really gotten this. I really don't see much of David Bowie in Gaga than she claimed during TF era. Besides the Ziggy Stardust lightning bolt and Fancy Pants, both of which aren't very in-depth references, there aren't many references to him. Not saying she copied, but her career and artistry has much more in common with Madonna than the other two.
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Originally posted by Bathomet
... they actually seem to forget that actually Xtina references Madonna in her work much more that Gaga does. Let's not pretend Infatuation isn't a new La Isla Bonita, Makes Me Wanna Pray a new Like Prayer, Glam a new Vogue, Still Dirrty a new Human Nature, Save Me From Myself a new Secret, Not Myself Tonight video an homage to EY, Not Myself Tonight video is practically Erotica 2010, the whole Back to Basics era being a complete "homage" to not the old Hollywood glam but Madonna's I'm Breathless album, the Frozen-isnpired Fighter video and just onyl thing that came to my mind in 2 minutes... What do you think?
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I'm very sorry but I disagree with everything underlined. Yes, she pays homage to her at times, and yes, ''Glam'' was to be a modern-day ''Vogue'', but those were tributes and no copies. The rest of the songs you mentioned just have no connection whatsoever.
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The word "copying" is so irritating nowadays. Nothing is original these days, so why bother.
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Originally posted by B2R4D
Doesn't Christina actually admit that she is paying homage to Madonna though? In many of Gaga's earliest interviews, she always credited Queen and David Bowie as being her main influences despite that she has been labelled as the second coming of Madonna since the beginning.
Anyway, it isn't about paying homage. Christina is influenced by her but she isn't trying to be the next Madonna. Gaga on the other hand is taking parts of Madonna's work and regurgitating it in a modern context. She isn't directly copying her, but the influence and ambition to be this "I'm going to be different and change pop music" thing is obvious. Anyway, I don't even think Madonna and Gaga are that similar. Madonna pushed the boundaries, but she did it in a way where it had a real message. It wasn't over-the-top and made perfect sense unlike Gaga, who is just gone to the most ridiculous extremes to prove nothing. Just my opinion. Don't take offense.
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Originally posted by MarryTheDark
An homage is when an artist like Christina, Katy, Ke$ha, Britney reference Madonna.
A ripoff is when Lady Gaga does it.
Not trying to say Christina, Katy, Ke$ha, or Britney have done this, but I'm just saying that if they ever do it'll be seen as an homage. But if Gaga does it, it's immediately seen as a ripoff.
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Oh come on every artist is teared apart over the smallest things on here.
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Artist copy off of each other very often. If no one did, then "genres" wouldn't exist. That is why our ears have been trained by the music industry to recognize a pop song, from a country song. Madonna copied plenty of people but alot of people are too young to have been there or just ignore it because she is "The Queen". Gaga is has copied also and now-a-days we can provide receipts in less than a second and haters have resources so anything an artist say or does is analyzed. Blame is on our technology. Lady gaga and Madonna both dies their hair blonde, both has stage visuals and outlandish costumes, both is of italian descent, both are worshiped by alot of gays, both dance in similar formations,ect ect ect. Comparing is inevitable.
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