[Mat.91]

Originally posted by Kworb

Oooooh! Finally I understand the first verse. Thank you so much for that excellent translation. These lyrics...

Not at all

[Patri]

Originally posted by Kworb

Oooooh! Finally I understand the first verse. Thank you so much for that excellent translation. These lyrics...

Welcome

[Patri]

Originally posted by Mat.91

No way.

io chiedessi
tu chiedessi

In the case when there's no pronuom specified, you can desume the person logically. In this case it's pretty simple..

Se solo con coraggio TU lo chiedessi, IO non ti lascerei

Stupid congiuntivo and its 75 million tenses

[Kworb]

Originally posted by Mat.91

No way.

io chiedessi
tu chiedessi

In the case when there's no pronuom specified, you can desume the person logically. In this case it's pretty simple..

Se solo con coraggio TU lo chiedessi, IO non ti lascerei

But why can't Tiziano be the one asking? He could be letting the person go because he's a coward right? I still don't see how TU is implied. But of course as a native speaker you have the ear for it.

Also the previous line

Ti giuro se sapessi di ferirti io non partirei

I swear to you if I knew how to hurt you I wouldn't leave

It's all first person. And to me that line also says that something is holding him back from getting close to this person. So that's why I was confused.

[Patri]

Originally posted by Kworb

But why can't Tiziano be the one asking? He could be letting the person go because he's a coward right? I still don't see how TU is implied. But of course as a native speaker you have the ear for it.

Also the previous line

Ti giuro se sapessi di ferirti io non partirei

I swear to you if I knew how to hurt you I wouldn't leave

It's all first person. And to me that line also says that something is holding him back from getting close to this person. So that's why I was confused.

"Ti giuro se sapessi di ferirti io non partirei" means "I swear to you that if i knew I was hurting you, I wouldn't leave".

[Kworb]

Originally posted by Patri

"Ti giuro se sapessi di ferirti io non partirei" means "I swear to you that if i knew I was hurting you, I wouldn't leave".

Oooh! Ugh these amateurs translating this stuff (including me). Oh then it makes total sense, and I see how tu is implied.

[Patri]

Originally posted by Kworb

Oooh! Ugh these amateurs translating this stuff (including me). Oh then it makes total sense, and I see how tu is implied.

LMAO don't worry, your Italian is very good! Let me know of you need more help with translations or whatnot

[Kworb]

How about this one? I asked someone else to check, but she has yet to get back to me. It's been a week so I think she's tired of me. This is the song he gave to Fiorella Mannoia.

Sono il re di chi ama troppo // I'm the king of those who love too much
Sono il re di chi perdona // I'm the king of those who forgive
Che sia animale o cosa // Whether it's animals or things
Sbaglia e accusa di persona // Of those who are wrong and see the wrong in others

I wasn't sure what the last line means exactly, so I translated it very loosely... hope you have a better idea.

Sono il re di chi ama e basta // I'm the king of those who love and that's enough
E di chi non abbandona // And of those who don't give up
Sono il re della pazienza // I'm the king of patience
Ce l'ho in testa la corona // I wear the crown on my head
E semmai dovessi andarmene tu // And in case you'd have to go away

Confused by the grammar there, mixing second and first person?

Quando parlerai di me // When will you speak of me?
Che non conto mai le ore perché il mio lavoro è aspettare // I don't ever count the hours because my job is to wait
Ti ricorderai di me // You will remember me
Perché amore, amore è andato // Because love, love is gone
E non me ne ero accorto io // And I didn't realize it
Il re di chi ama troppo // The king of those who love too much

Sono il re del solo affetto // I'm the king of lonely affection
Sono il re di ciò che ho detto // I'm the king of what I've said
Condannato dal difetto di chi pensa sempre nero solo // Condemned by the flaw of someone who always only thinks dark thoughts
Perché ama per davvero // Because he actually loves

Sono il re dei troppi errori, dei pensieri messi fuori // I'm the king of too many mistakes, of suspended thoughts
Sono il re della distanza, sono il re di te e di me // I'm the king of distance, I'm the king of you and me
Sono il re di chi lo dice ciò che sento // I'm the king of saying what I feel
Sono il re del tuo ricordo buono a niente // I'm the king of your memory, good for nothing
Sono il re di chi si avrà per sempre // I'm the king of those who'll have themselves, forever

[Patri]

Sure I'll look at it when I get home.

[Kworb]

Awesome.

It's past midnight here and in Italy, so time to congratulate our hero and king. He turns 32 today. I wish for a lot of love in his future, and a lot of brilliant music. And that he doesn't wait too long to release album #6 now that he's unsigned.

Happy birthday Tiziano!!!

[Patri]

Auguri Tiziano

[Boop]

Happy Bday KING

[crossbonezolo]

Secondo me comunque non è così implicito che sia TU chiedessi e TU sapessi... alla fine potrebbe essere stato fatto a posta per lasciare alla canzone una doppia chiave di lettura...

Comunque auguri Tiziano!!

[crossbonezolo]

Originally posted by Kworb

How were you able to stop reading the first one? I was so engrossed I could not put it down.

I wish I had the time to read it, but all I can do during my days is study

[crossbonezolo]

I finally bought his DVD and Album Collection. Flop stan

[Kworb]

I don't have Rosso Relativo and Centoundici I don't plan to ever get them

I bought L'amore è una cosa semplice three times to compensate

The DVD I want another one asap!

[crossbonezolo]

Originally posted by Kworb

Oh it can't be said enough that Hai delle isole negli occhi should never be a single

Smeraldo next and then Per dirti ciao! Then La fine to end the era. So obvious and perfect!

L'Amore E' Una Cosa Semplice should be a single too, it should've been the second one, but I'll be happy with it being the sixth

[Kworb]

Six singles I'm ready. I hope kworb.net visitors are too.

[Kworb]

Perfect for my WPs and bans.

[Patri]

Originally posted by Kworb

I don't have Rosso Relativo and Centoundici I don't plan to ever get them

I bought L'amore è una cosa semplice three times to compensate

The DVD I want another one asap!

Maybe not RR (with the exception of Primavera non è) but 111 is the best album!