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Discussion: Real Queen of Pop?
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Originally posted by MrHiphy
So Briney's a cheerleader and not a dancer? Oh good, glad you cleared that up.
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If you put Beyonce and Britney in a dance studio and told them to free style, Britney would have Beyonce's ankles broken.
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
I never said there was... but there is a difference between someone who hold and 8-count then someone who just had a baby and can walk into the studio and put her leg over her head.
Speaking of which, when is Beyonce ever gonna put her leg over her head, drop into the splits of do a backflip?
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So Britney can do that today ? 
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
I guess by his formula that Britney is not pop either because of R&B influences in ITZ or maybe Brit's not pop because she covered I Love Rock n Roll.  |
Fabricating my comment a bit there, aren't you? I didn't even mention Britney, so how can you possibly know my opinion?
Try not to make a fool of yourself by assuming, ask 
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The point I was trying to make:
Lady Gaga is not the absolute definition of "Pop". No one will ever reference her sound as standard pop music.
I don't know how pop, rock, underground house, and dance mixed together is categorized as "Pop". (eg: Born This Way)
Same goes for Beyoncé and Rihanna. They're pop artists, but their music contains R'n'B.
I mean, really now? I would reference; Madonna, then Britney Spears.
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Originally posted by cheap
change it, it'll go back to r&b and u will get banned if u do it again.
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She's pop, no room for discussion.
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Originally posted by Worldwidewoman
I don't care that Beyonce is pop, rock, r&b, tree, glass or sun! Beyonce will never be the Queen of Pop. Queen of R&B Contemporary Music or Urban Pop, but not Queen of Pop. |
Honey what is your point? I don't see any Beyoncé stans in here dragging Madonna or undermining her achievements, so you need to sit with all of that shade. Madonna isn't exempt from a drag. Hard Candy alone can keep me dragging for an entire week.
Madonna can keep her Pop Queen title. No1curr. Nawt that serious. Move on sweetie. 
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
If you put Beyonce and Britney in a dance studio and told them to free style, Britney would have Beyonce's ankles broken.
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Originally posted by Worldwidewoman
I don't care that Beyonce is pop, rock, r&b, tree, glass or sun! Beyonce will never be the Queen of Pop. Queen of R&B Contemporary Music or Urban Pop, but not Queen of Pop. |
Beyonce has been the queen for years now so i don't know what your point is.
No genre is exempt from Beyonce: Conqueror of genres.
Madonna had her run and she has reached the finish line.
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
If you put Beyonce and Britney in a dance studio and told them to free style, Britney would have Beyonce's ankles broken.
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
Of course album sales do too, and speaking of album sales let's get into Beyoncé outselling Britney since her solo debut. You are throwing shade for filth, but I can do it too.
You seem to think numbers are the only factor in creating a Queen of Pop. That is nawt true. You can sit in the past all day if you want, but the present is showing me as 4 seems to have a hold on Femme Fatale.
Britney has numbers, and that is all. She HAD her skills as an entertainer, but she lost it. Beyoncé has numbers, all of her skills as a performer/vocalist/artist, respect from the industry, critical acclaim, prestigious awards, relevancy outside of music in multiple fields, etc etc. You're looking for the signs of Queen of Pop while I'm looking for the signs of a Legend. Beyoncé will go down as just that, so you can gladly crown Britney Queen of Pop. The Queen of "Pop" role is tired. Pop is a very limited genre and a bit of a joke when it comes to the others. It's always been looked at as bubblegum music filled with attractive women with little to no vocal talent, so Britney can gladly have the title.
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See, what you're doing here, is comparing Beyonce at her peak, to Britney in the middle of her career. Both women peak, album wise, at the beginning... so let's compare apple to apples and not apples to pickles... because had Dangerously in Love come out with BOMT, OIDIA or Britney you wouldn't have had an argument.
... and you're talking about things, once again, that Britney has done before.
Let's not forget Britney's uber-successful fragrance line... which is a monster in comparison.
Britney's done the endorsement thing in the US and internationally and now she endorses her own lines.. and let us not forget the bitch can tweet and make $20,000 because people understand that her following is so ****ing huge.
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Originally posted by Techii
How can someone even comparing Britney Spears to effing MADONNA. Madonna, the feminist icon, the innovator, the musical genius, the visionary. And you compare her to Britney fudging Spears. and the worst part you guys are dead serious. 
I'm honestly not even a big Madonna fan like that even though I respect her for so many reasons, but damn. That's a slap in the face to her.
Britney Spears represents so many things that have to do with this generation, but musically, there is hardly anything to go by which in my opinion should be the #1 criteria when you're talking about the queen of a MUSIC genre for our generation. You guys need to stop. like, forreal.
Britney Spears is as much of a bubblegum pop artist today as she was 10 years ago. Granted, now with a more mature edge, but still. The comparison is laughable. Britney Spears didn't even take her career seriously for who knows how many years, no one even knows if she does now. She's not an ARTIST and therefore naming her "queen" of a genre is, in fact, an outrage.
And Britney fans... please, PLEASE don't drag 10 year old sales into this AGAIN -__-
If you're gonna name someone Queen of anything they need to at least be consistent. |
Oop. Martian address this tea.
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Madonna IS THE QUEEN!
No other girl!
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Originally posted by Mąni Lιn`Dεε
So Britney can do that today ?
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You must not be a fan.
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
If you put Beyonce and Britney in a dance studio and told them to free style, Britney would have Beyonce's ankles broken.
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I think your missing the point everyone is trying to make. Just because Britney is a "dancer" doesn't mean she's a better dancer. Which she isn't. If you gave Britney and Beyonce the same choreography, Beyonce would do ten times better than Britney, which in turn makes Beyonce the better dancer.
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
If you put Beyonce and Britney in a dance studio and told them to free style, Britney would have Beyonce's ankles broken.
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You are reaching for the gods now and i'm afraid they aren't going to answer your prayers for this one.
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
That was based on opinion...
Realistically, Britney sold WAY more.
Rihanna had more #1s.
She was out-tour by a long list of artists.
Billboard gave it to the popular vote at the time... and that's true tea.
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Child.... Give me a Break just like a Bitter Britney stan come up with the BS in the world why Brit didn't get or can't do something Brintey can't dance like she use to because she had knee surgery or she had to kids, Only reason why Britney didn't get the award because she's not going to show up. Give it a rest
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
If you put Beyonce and Britney in a dance studio and told them to free style, Britney would have Beyonce's ankles broken.
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Funny how you talk about broken ankles.
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
Honey what is your point? I don't see any Beyoncé stans in here dragging Madonna or undermining her achievements, so you need to sit with all of that shade. Madonna isn't exempt from a drag. Hard Candy alone can keep me dragging for an entire week.
Madonna can keep her Pop Queen title. No1curr. Nawt that serious. Move on sweetie.
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I'm not just getting on Beyonce. I got on all of them.
Madonna will keep her Queen of Pop babydoll.
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
See, what you're doing here, is comparing Beyonce at her peak, to Britney in the middle of her career. Both women peak, album wise, at the beginning... so let's compare apple to apples and not apples to pickles... because had Dangerously in Love come out with BOMT, OIDIA or Britney you wouldn't have had an argument.
... and you're talking about things, once again, that Britney has done before.
Let's not forget Britney's uber-successful fragrance line... which is a monster in comparison.
Britney's done the endorsement thing in the US and internationally and now she endorses her own lines.. and let us not forget the bitch can tweet and make $20,000 because people understand that her following is so ****ing huge.
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I'm nawt referring to peak, but overall careers. Britney ******* at the beginning, but as time moved on instead of progressing she regressed, and it clearly shows today. Britney is nawt consistent. As you stated in your blog Beyoncé raises the bar and challenged herself as an artist and as a performer, and she conquers it every time.
Brit's perfume is cute, but let's nawt act like Bey doesn't also have a perfume line that sell for filth. Same goes for her clothing line, and her acting career which lands her in box office hits regardless of what you may think of her acting. She is the most relevant gerl outside of music.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
Oop. Martian address this tea.
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There's no tea to address, tbqh.
Everything Beyonce has done, Britney did it before her. The only thing Beyonce has on Britney is vocals and Grammys, which pretty much go hand it hand. Realistically, Britney and Beyonce aren't the same kinda dancer (if you can call Beyonce a dancer) but I'm sure if you bopped down to Millennium dance and asked any of the workers which artists comes in the studio learning the hardest choreography, they're point you in Britney's direction.
Britney could probably never do the single ladies choreography and look as good as Beyonce doing it, but I bet at least Britney could do it.
I'd like to see Beyonce get up and hit that Slave 4 U choreography one good time...
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Originally posted by Knix
Beyonce has been the queen for years now so i don't know what your point is.
No genre is exempt from Beyonce: Conqueror of genres.
Madonna had her run and she has reached the finish line.
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Yea, she was Queen for something else, but not pop.
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