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Discussion: Rihanna's touring power
Member Since: 12/15/2011
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Originally posted by LoveLiveMusic
 not to stir the pot but you talk about Rihanna being lazy and half assed yet Justin Bieber just extended his tour into 2017 with 40 more dates and about 80% of those are stadiums. |
Bieber has crazy young fans that will pay as much as it's needed for his concerts plus his last album did wonders to his career with him doing an album full of all these EDM hits which is very global style of music.
He's still a very poor performer that rarely sings live on the stage.
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Member Since: 8/17/2011
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Because she is too talented, it scares people off!
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Member Since: 4/16/2008
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Originally posted by WeFoundWill
The DWT did $150M from 87 Shows and the ANTI Tour grossed slightly over $100M from 68 shows-
In what world is this bad, especially considering her touring repuation  ATRL is doing too much again tbh. |
This world.
Bey made 256M from 49 shows.
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by pieuxvu
This world.
Bey made 256M from 49 shows.
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With all stadiums of course she's going to make more.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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She won't let people through crisps at her 
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Member Since: 10/18/2003
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Originally posted by LoveLiveMusic
With all stadiums of course she's going to make more.
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Not really, she did way less stadium dates in Europe for example compared to Riri and yet she ended outgrossing her in that continent... 
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by LoveLiveMusic
With all stadiums of course she's going to make more.
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According to the Navy, Rihanna's success massively eclipses Beyoncé's and she's much more successful. So why shouldn't she be doing a stadium tour?
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Member Since: 10/18/2003
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Originally posted by MrLovett
According to the Navy, Rihanna's success massively eclipses Beyoncé's and she's much more successful. So why shouldn't she be doing a stadium tour?
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Not enough demand sis....Imagine the ultimate embarassment if Anti tour in the US had stadium dates 
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Member Since: 6/26/2010
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I've been stanning for a decade and I refuse to buy tickets to her show, why would other people want to?  she does not deserve it
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Member Since: 2/4/2014
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It's funny how all the Beyhive jumped on this yet not one probably has gone to see ha. I thoroughly enjoyed the Anti tour,; Rih's voice was amazing. I've been to the lipsynched shows Beyonce puts on and tbh, considering, she's good but still doesn't have the same dynamic Janet does when she performs (yes, I'e seen a Janet show as well). Carry on. . . . .
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I attended Anti tour and the production was not great, and she was late.
She didn't have a good touring reputation to begin with and she didn't make it much better with this tour
I will say, her vocals were really good so idk why you're dragging the sis for that.
Unless you have been, don't call it a bad show
A lot of people don't think she is good live, though, from performances like award shows etc and that is maybe why they didn't go to see her.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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tbh i dont think it has anything to do with timing 
Justin has been late several times and been in the news because of it but is still selling out.
Its probably because the gp doesnt see her as an amazing performer....Katy does well but her shows have really good production.....Janet cant sing but people see her as a great performer which is why they attend her shows...like Katy, Taylor has good production but before the 1989 tour she was slaying with minimal production like every other country star & her singing is 'okay' (Rihanna is a better singer now but the gp still thinks she cant sing live  ) Rihanna has none of these qualities.
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by Mystic Boy
Not really, she did way less stadium dates in Europe for example compared to Riri and yet she ended outgrossing her in that continent... |
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Originally posted by MrLovett
According to the Navy, Rihanna's success massively eclipses Beyoncé's and she's much more successful. So why shouldn't she be doing a stadium tour?
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I mean in terms of numbers of stadiums sized potential attendance overall, Rihanna did about half of what Beyonce did, but some of those were festivals too, so it's not really accurate to take into consideration.
But I don't really think tours wouldn't be comparable unless they did the exact same touring itinerary with the same ticket prices etc which obviously would never happen.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by M A R C
How is that a drag?
Her touring numbers aren't bad and her performance skills is very good.
If she invested a bit more into her sets and added more dates she would easily gross on par with her peers, and most of Navy has said that.
But y'all are in here acting like the girl is doing 20m with each tour.
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I don't think she's a good performer, period. So yeah, that's the drag. Saying she needs to put more effort, AT THIS STAGE IN HER CAREER, 8 albums deep, is the drag. She's lazy and unmotivated. And I know the Navy loves that mess, "unbothered queen" and such, but the rest of the buying public says NO.
No matter the excuses, there's no reason she should have been struggling to sell out arenas in the US, with all the hits and albums she has.
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Originally posted by biebervelli
tbh i dont think it has anything to do with timing
Justin has been late several times and been in the news because of it but is still selling out.
Its probably because the gp doesnt see her as an amazing performer....Katy does well but her shows have really good production.....Janet cant sing but people see her as a great performer which is why they attend her shows...like Katy, Taylor has good production but before the 1989 tour she was slaying with minimal production like every other country star & her singing is 'okay' (Rihanna is a better singer now but the gp still thinks she cant sing live ) Rihanna has none of these qualities. |
And they see Bieber as a good performer?
Anyway it's a mix of things. Her being lazy, being late, stage production very poor etc. Considering all of this, she does more than good.
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Member Since: 4/5/2014
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Bad touring reputation,lateness,lazyness on stage,and bad production.
DWT was a successful tour(so was LOUD tour) and even though she was not an acclaimed performer back then she had Loud Tour to back it up,which was the normal colorful pop tour.
DWT had 100% sold out shows,but i'm pretty sure 80% of the people that attended the tour would never buy a ticket for any of her shows again.
The same with AWT, in a matter of years it'll reach the point where no one wants to go to her shows.
And i'm saying this as a navy so don't try to drag me
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Originally posted by Flawle$$
Bad touring reputation,lateness,lazyness on stage,and bad production.
DWT was a successful tour(so was LOUD tour) and even though she was not an acclaimed performer back then she had Loud Tour to back it up,which was the normal colorful pop tour.
DWT had 100% sold out shows,but i'm pretty sure 80% of the people that attended the tour would never buy a ticket for any of her shows again.
The same with AWT, in a matter of years it'll reach the point where no one wants to go to her shows.
And i'm saying this as a navy so don't try to drag me
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It is safe to say, as well as truth, I really think you're not a Rihanna fan. I don't believe you went to the AWT and to be honest, anything you say about Rihanna is suspect at this point but carry on "Faux Nhevi"
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Member Since: 4/5/2014
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Originally posted by Drayb
It is safe to say, as well as truth, I really think you're not a Rihanna fan. I don't believe you went to the AWT and to be honest, anything you say about Rihanna is suspect at this point but carry on "Faux Nhevi"
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If only your opinion determined whether i'm a navy or not...
Unfortunately it doesn't... stay with your eyes blindfolded for the rest of your life and just like Rihanna says.
LIVE YOUR LIFE 
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Drayb
It's funny how all the Beyhive jumped on this yet not one probably has gone to see ha. I thoroughly enjoyed the Anti tour,; Rih's voice was amazing. I've been to the lipsynched shows Beyonce puts on and tbh, considering, she's good but still doesn't have the same dynamic Janet does when she performs (yes, I'e seen a Janet show as well). Carry on. . . . .
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Beyoncé's "lipsynched" shows will forever be more successful and respected than Rihanna's shows and that's just the fact of the matter. Sorry that is upsets you, but that's what your therapist is there for.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by pieuxvu
This world.
Bey made 256M from 49 shows.
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Literally NO ONE is comparing her to Bey.
Ofc Bey is the queen of touring this age so why would anyone even try? Void argument.
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