Tell that to Gaga, Selena, Miley, etc. who has Taylor impacted? Those saying Brit declined in sales. Ofc she did she sold 30 mil for her first record you think she's going to continually top that? Taylor wasn't that big until 09 plus Britney's peak was 1998-2009
Show us the times where they have compared albums from 2001 to 2015 and such in equivalents? RIAA, Billboard, IFPI, and everyone in the industry doesn't compare bigger eras from different times by sales / equivalents because everyone knows the industry has changed.
But continue to compare 1999 sales to 2014 sales so you can keep this mindset Britney is the biggest pop star in history while everyone else doesn't entertain it.
And kii at you trying it yet again with the personal attacks. Britney's #6 in the U.S. and I never once pretended that she was anywhere near the top for the females. Why are you constantly so pressed over her/math/logic, sis?
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Originally posted by simmnfierzig
Um... So you can't read or what?
In 2015 20 albums went platinum with the current adjusted RIAA formula. There weren't actual 20 albums that went platinum, cause yes they still used the old outdated pure sales...
This weird level of irony
My point was that so few albums missed Platinum because RIAA discounted the biggest streaming platform and that's why so few albums at all succeeded. You're off on a tangent, sis.
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Best-selling albums released in 1999:
1 - 12.23M - MILLENNIUM - BACKSTREET BOYS
2 - 11.75M - SUPERNATURAL - SANTANA
3 - 11.66M - HUMAN CLAY - CREED
N/A Britney
Best-selling albums released in 2000:
1 - 12.29M - 1 - BEATLES
2 - 11.15M - NO STRINGS ATTACHED - 'NSYNC
3 - 10.81M - THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP - EMINEM
N/A Britney
Best-selling albums released in 2001:
1 - 6.47M - WEATHERED - CREED
2 - 6.32M - SONGS IN A MINOR - ALICIA KEYS
3 - 5.7M - SILVER SIDE UP - NICKELBACK
N/A Britney
Now let's look at the years of Taylor's albums:
Best-selling albums released in 2006 1 - 5.53M - TAYLOR SWIFT - TAYLOR SWIFT
2 - 5.03M - DAUGHTRY - DAUGHTRY
3 - 5.00M - ME AND MY GANG - RASCAL FLATTS
Best-selling albums released in 2008 1 - 6.96M - FEARLESS - TAYLOR SWIFT
2 - 4.62M - THE FAME - LADY GAGA
3 - 3.87M - THA CARTER III - LIL' WAYNE
Best-selling albums released in 2010
1 - 4,690,000 - RECOVERY - EMINEM 2 - 4,510,000 - SPEAK NOW - TAYLOR SWIFT
3 - 4,090,000 - NEED YOU NOW - LADY ANTEBELLUM
Best-selling albums released in 2012 1 - 4,220,000 - RED - TAYLOR SWIFT
2 - 2,770,000 - BABEL - MUMFORD & SONS
3 - 2,570,000 - NIGHT VISIONS - IMAGINE DRAGONS
Best-selling albums released in 2014 1 - 5,250,000 - TAYLOR SWIFT - 1989
2 - 2,094,000 - SAM SMITH - IN THE LONELY HOUR
3 - 1,805,000 - ED SHEERAN - X
As you can see, Britney's albums were a massive non-factor compared to other albums of her time, while Taylor's are constantly the biggest releases of their time
The only reason Britney's sales look impressive is because we compare them to current albums
How many times do you have to get exposed for purposefully leaving out club sales till you stop posting this?
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Originally posted by Cathryn Hudson
Britney has NO impact whatsoever
Taeyeon's debut performance was a cover of Britney Spears.
Show us the times where they have compared albums from 2001 to 2015 and such in equivalents? RIAA, Billboard, IFPI, and everyone in the industry doesn't compare bigger eras from different times by sales / equivalents because everyone knows the industry has changed.
But continue to compare 1999 sales to 2014 sales so you can keep this mindset Britney is the biggest pop star in history while everyone else doesn't entertain it.
Thank you!
Then again, I was told Britney in 2015 was more popular than Taylor Swift, so yeah. There's nothing else to do, really.
My point was that so few albums missed Platinum because RIAA discounted the biggest streaming platform and that's why so few albums at all succeeded. You're off on a tangent, sis.
Oh my god you can't read and don't know what RIAA is doing
Until 2016 RIAA certified albums based 100% on pure album sales only. In 2016 they included the Billboard formula + Youtube.
iHype said 20 albums in 2015 would have been platinum with the current formula of album sales, singles sales and streams including Youtube.
Did you understand that now or should I make a drawing for you?
And kii at you trying it yet again with the personal attacks. Britney's #6 in the U.S. and I never once pretended that she was anywhere near the top for the females. Why are you constantly so pressed over her/math/logic, sis?
That wasn't an attack. This is an attack:
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And Britney stays outgrossing PIGriah in Vegas (who hasn't had a top 10 hit or number 1 album in almost a decade, LOL).
The anger. All over Taylor being bigger than Britney.
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Originally posted by simmnfierzig
Oh my god you can't read and don't know what RIAA is doing
Until 2016 RIAA certified albums based 100% on pure album sales only. In 2016 they included the Billboard formula + Youtube.
iHype said 20 albums in 2015 would have been platinum with the current formula of album sales, singles sales and streams including Youtube.
Did you understand that now or should I make a drawing for you?
He's just gonna argue in circles and change the topic.
Even with TEA+SEA the amount of albums reaching Platinum and Multi-Platinum compared to the early 2000s and late 90s is minuscule. I don't get what's hard for him to understand and how you could disagree.
Comparing without adjusting for the drastic market change is just oblivious to the truth.
Ya'll can argue about TEA+SEA () until you're blue in the face.
The fact remains that Britney is a bigger celebrity and has more impact than Taylor (who doesn't have any memorable moments, performances, iconic outfits, etc.)
awh.. sis youre still stuck in 2010, just like your fave's career!
Nothing about being stuck in what year you moron
Britney can forever flop until the day she dies from now on and still be known for her iconic songs
It's not about success, it's about impact, something BOMT, OIDIA and Toxic all have, Taylor won't be remembered for songs like Shake It Off, IKYWT or Love Story because even tho they were hits, they had no impact on the music industry at all enough to be remembered
Oh my god you can't read and don't know what RIAA is doing
Until 2016 RIAA certified albums based 100% on pure album sales only. In 2016 they included the Billboard formula + Youtube.
iHype said 20 albums in 2015 would have been platinum with the current formula of album sales, singles sales and streams including Youtube.
Did you understand that now or should I make a drawing for you?
Sis
I said that RIAA gave out over 40+ Platinum album certifications already in 2016 due to their oversight of the biggest streaming platform prior to this year.
Obviously I know they aren't there in pure sales. I was accosting iHype because he tried to say VEVO doesn't count as SEAs prior to this thread in an argument with me, yet RIAA updated and agreed with me.
Now he's trying to bring up that only 20 albums from 2015 went Platinum as opposed to 100 from 2011, yet with the rate of Platinum certifications being given out increasing and plenty of eligible albums awaiting a certification (see: Revival, Storyteller, What a Time to Be Alive, DS2, etc.), the disparity will decrease. And as YT/Spotify streams hold up pop/hip-hop albums better than catalog sales used to, 2015 won't seem so poor off despite having very few major releases from A-list acts like Luke Bryan, Adele, Justin Bieber, Drake and Janet Jackson.
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Originally posted by iHype.
That wasn't an attack. This is an attack:
The anger. All over Taylor being bigger than Britney.
He's just gonna argue in circles and change the topic.
Even with TEA+SEA the amount of albums reaching Platinum and Multi-Platinum compared to the early 2000s and late 90s is minuscule. I don't get what's hard for him to understand and how you could disagree.
Comparing without adjusting for the drastic market change is just oblivious to the truth.[/CENTER]
And do you see how I don't support/agree with that member in any capacity?
And nobody's upset over Taylor Swift. It's just annoying to see the same set of trolls (namely you and Slobro) in every Britney thread, talking about how sales from before your adolescence don't count and overrating every hit album you've experienced because you two seem to think every major release that's experienced a market change is somehow the biggest release of all-time.
The late 90s/early 2000s was an anomaly, much like Adele. Not every time period is supposed to have massive sales and not every time period will be equal. We don't equate every smash album to 21 or Thriller because they're an exception, not the standard.
Comparing using grounded stats that make up for every form of musical consumption is realistic. You can argue hypothetical sales situations all day, but album equivalents are the only form of adjustments actually derived from musical consumption. That is why they are used as opposed to market share.
All over Taylor being bigger than Britney. 
) until you're blue in the face.
