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Discussion: Has Katy surpassed Lady Gaga already?
Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by H-I-M
Being on top for one era =/= surpassing the other. You tried to come off as unbiased, you tried.
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Katy sold 1.5m less albums than Gaga during BTW but sold 30m+ more singles than Gaga did and she wiped the floor with her during Prism. Like I said, Katy has been outperforming her for nearly 5 years
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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LOL you all. ONE single album of Gaga's flopped, and she is OVER
Prism >>> ARTPOP in terms of success. Can you say the same about other albums? (TD and BTW were very close, with an edge to TD)
What about tour? What about star power? What about TALENT?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Starstruck.
Yet the OP loves both artists and the ones writing essays are Monsters, am I right?
OT: Katy has surpassed Gaga LONG time ago.
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Yes cause you don't know how to answer...easy as that
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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I love how the people who are arguing against Gaga literally have nothing to say.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by ahauntingnearu
LMAO when monsters act like she didn't come out on top with BTW vs TD
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WW albums sales ? Born This Way.
WW Tour? Born This Way - $181M vs $59M [beyond tragic ]
WW singles sales? Katy, but BTW was bigger than any TD single.
You tried.
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Member Since: 12/27/2011
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I don't know why y'all are wasting your time with the Kats. While everyone and their mother can provide receipts for their others faves as to why their faves are great that don't involve charts or sales, the Kats gargle at the mouth with things like "KATY HAS RADIO HIT, KATY FEMALE MJ, KATY SMASH!!!1!1!1"
They can't prove impact or acclaim or anything else. It's ironic how someone else said that no one in the real world cares about charts and sales in defense of Katy yet that's all they ever talk about. I'm asleep.
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Member Since: 12/9/2007
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Originally posted by Bang Up
Yes, we are completely aware that the PRISM era was a bigger success than the ARTPOP era. Nobody is trying to refute that.
When it comes to surpassing Gaga, not even close. She hasn't sold more records, grossed more on tour, won more awards, and her net worth is half of Gaga's. If you guys want to be misogynistic assholes and erase all of Lady Gaga's career achievements because of one underperforming era, go right ahead, but just know that you're deluding yourself into thinking that because Katy Perry has more Instagram followers and YouTube views that she has surpassed Gaga in any way, shape, or form.
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I don't think you know what the word "misogynist" means.
Considering one of these artists has performed at the Super Bowl, I'm going to go with Katy on this one. But, just as Gaga was on top from her debut through BTW, I could see Gaga catching up to Katy during her next era. Besides "Roar" and "Dark Horse", Prism's singles were as big of flops as Gaga's flops during Artpop.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by H-I-M
Sold more than 12 million copies where ? And Bad Romance isn't even Gaga's best selling. Kiii
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Read it again
"2 of them will double it streams"
2 = Roar and Dark Horse
Bad Romance= 600m views
DH and Roar are both at 800 and will reach 1.2 billion by next year
OT: of course duh!
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by artpop
I love how the people who are arguing against Gaga literally have nothing to say.
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They can't argue with reciepts They tried it
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Member Since: 4/21/2011
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Originally posted by hellocory
Katy sold 1.5m less albums than Gaga during BTW but sold 30m+ more singles than Gaga did and she wiped the floor with her during Prism. Like I said, Katy has been outperforming her for nearly 5 years
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Gaga's bigger touring gross during the BTW era >>>> Katy's xx Million more singles. That on top of her also selling more albums and getting more acclaim.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by hellocory
Katy sold 1.5m less albums than Gaga during BTW but sold 30m+ more singles than Gaga did and she wiped the floor with her during Prism. Like I said, Katy has been outperforming her for nearly 5 years
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gaga's mediatic power completely overshadowed her, she took a lot of risks during the era and still katy was behind her... , and what about the BTWBT?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by hellocory
Yet Dark Horse and Roar have both sold more than Bad Romance and have been streamed way more as well Monsters sure do love fake numbers with that $0.99 deal and this diamond single
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Her certifications were updated in June 2014, 8 months ago and they were 6x platinum (with streaming). I doubt both would have reached the Diamond certification (10x). DH is probably 7x platinum at most now.
Firework is probably very close to being Diamond, though.
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Member Since: 8/11/2012
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Lady Gaga
Albums: 29M
Tracks: 91M
YouTube views: 3,220,979,288 (=3,127,253,779 LadyGagaVEVO + 93,725,509 Ladygaga)
Sales+TEA+SEA*: 121M
Katy Perry
Albums: 13M
Tracks: 92M
YouTube views: 4,932,473,147
Sales+TEA+SEA*: 107M
* 10 tracks = 1 album, 2,500 streams = 1 album.
It's formula of the Polish Society of the Phonographic Industry
So it looks still Gaga > Katy. But if Katy will release new PRISM and Gaga ARTPOP vol. 2...
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Member Since: 4/21/2011
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Originally posted by Graduation
I don't think you know what the word "misogynist" means.
Considering one of these artists has performed at the Super Bowl, I'm going to go with Katy on this one. But, just as Gaga was on top from her debut through BTW, I could see Gaga catching up to Katy during her next era. Besides "Roar" and "Dark Horse", Prism's singles were as big of flops as Gaga's flops during Artpop.
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Why don't you consider the fact that Gaga has SIX times more Grammys ? The SB means *** when even people like BEP performed.
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Member Since: 3/16/2012
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Originally posted by 2014
WW singles sales? Katy, but BTW was bigger than any TD single.
You tried.
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LMFAO no it was not it wasn't then, it was now, it never will be.
A forgotten song vs Katy perry's long list of hit songs.
YOU tried
The tour though? Yikes, that is horrible
Just proves my point though that gaga gets worse and worse and less and less popular and sells less and less with each passing era, whereas Katy increased and improved from OOTB -> TD, and then remained relatively stable (didn't sell as much, but still sold enough, had hits, improved her tour, great vids, views, etc).
Gaga at her peak is better, but Katy had remained constant basically and gaga had receded
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Member Since: 3/5/2014
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People still using the "Katy is increasing while Gaga is decreasing" argument.
Gaga debuted with 16,000,000 albums sold and $225,000,000 in tour gross.
Katy debuted with 5,000,000 albums sold and $65,000,000 in tour gross.
Of course Katy is going to increase from such small numbers (BTW, she has yet to match her debut just like Gaga but with a smaller number to match).
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Originally posted by hellocory
A huge chunk of Gaga's sales are from her first 2 years out. Katy has been more popular and outperforming her for almost 5 years
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And somehow she still hasn't sold more, won more, grossed more, or made more money. How is that even possible?
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by Tanguy
Her certifications were updated in June 2014, 6 months ago and they were 6x platinum (with streaming). I doubt both would have reached the Diamond certification (10x). DH is probably 7x platinum at most now.
Firework is probably very close to being Diamond, though.
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Dark Horse and Roar both have 200m more views than Bad Romance and have sold more as well They will be diamond and then some soon
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by Nemo
I think she has.
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Well, if you think so, it must be right.
OT: Nah. No matter how the Kats want to spin it, Lady Gaga has still achieved more.
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Member Since: 8/11/2012
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But in US...
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