[♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚]

Originally posted by Khal

It's always nice to read the rest of the thread before making yourself look foolish Read the previous pages

Right?

Originally posted by Ash12345

Secondary market
she still got the coins for the original purchase

Exactly

[Alpha]

Originally posted by OmegaRidley

And the question is why are you bringing this to Katy?

you can't really blame him tho, one can forget for a second that this aint a katy thread with this amount of strayin kats here

[Bang Up]

Originally posted by Mariano

Gaga has been touring non stop since 2009

in 2012/2013 she earned 185M with her 2nd tour.

Now it's 2014 and she is already earning another 90M with artRAVE.

She has earned more than anyone else by touring in the last 5 years and has ARGUABLY toured more than ANY ARTIST EVER in her first 6 years of career.

You realize that she has done around 400+ shows right ?

Touring alone, Gaga has played 463 shows since she debuted in 2008. That is a show every four days since the beginning of her mainstream pop career. This doesn't even factor in the promotional tours, club shows, private shows, etc. This girl has been touring non-stop. It's why she is richer than all of her contemporaries.

[Kuntmonster]

waiT so she sold out her tour at full price still? YASSSSSSS QUEEN

[L.B GAGA]

Welp!!!!! The bad press from the media and critics keeps getting worse, they've been killing her appeal since the Born This Way amazon discount

Already scared for the next era

[Schhh]

Albums for $0.99, tour tickets for $4.70, Gaga fans are really lucky, when will our faves?

[Vulps]

the famous “Pop Queen”

Messy as hell.

[Lose My Breath]

But that is the secondary market? What does it matter

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by readingrainbro

Because you little monsters don't seem to be able to have any sort of reading comprehension, let me break it down:

Gaga's tickets in Europe are overstocked and are selling for UNBELIEVEABLY CHEAP.
While this may not necessairly mean that she is losing money (resellers are), this is still bad for her.
This is bad because resellers will buy much less tickets in the future from Gaga.
Also, this is a sign that Gaga really is not relevant to the GP anymore, not enough Gaga tickets being sold because noone cares about her.

How hard is this to understand? You LM need to stop fuming and screeching and just LISTEN.


Also any LM talking about ATRL being twinks is delusional because BRENDAN JORDAN is the posterboy for Little Monsters.

Can't believe it took 5 pages for someone with even a tiny amount of economics knowledge to post.

This is like the time y'all laughed for 2 years straight about how Gaga was still the biggest popular in the world because Born This Way opened with a million sales when everyone else could clearly see the cracks in her popularity.

Maybe it is only Spain/Barcelona where her popularity has dropped this low and true she has already gotten all her money this time around, but it'll certainly impact her when she tries to book venues for her next tour in Spain.

[Optimus]

[MadonnasBoyfriend]

Originally posted by Kuntmonster

waiT so she sold out her tour at full price still? YASSSSSSS QUEEN

QUEEN OF saggy pancake tittts and flopping

[Leon]

This is the second market. Which means Gaga made all the money already. Slay

[Brando]

Originally posted by Lose My Breath

But that is the secondary market? What does it matter

It shows lack of demand. She will need to downgrade the size of venues for her next tour because "opportunists" won't be buying her tickets in advance as much anymore if they keep losing money having to re-sell them at 90% discount. It's really silly to celebrate "oh she gets the coins". Why do people care about her income instead of the obvious lack of demand...

[Sombra]

Tragic.

[Blue Momo!]

Touring artist

[Rico Shameless v2]

Originally posted by Brando

It shows lack of demand. She will need to downgrade the size of venues for her next tour because "opportunists" won't be buying her tickets in advance as much anymore if they keep losing money having to re-sell them at 90% discount. It's really silly to celebrate "oh she gets the coins". Why do people care about her income instead of the obvious lack of demand...

It's a repeat of BTW era. Essentially her fans are saying, again, "Who cares if her career is deteriorating, she got the money."

Most of them seem very happy about her alleged success with Tony Bennett, though. So at least they'll get jazz albums from her as long as they stay Lil' Monsters.

[Giorgoc]

Originally posted by Brando

It shows lack of demand. She will need to downgrade the size of venues for her next tour because "opportunists" won't be buying her tickets in advance as much anymore if they keep losing money having to re-sell them at 90% discount. It's really silly to celebrate "oh she gets the coins". Why do people care about her income instead of the obvious lack of demand...

This is the most important thing about this situation: the long term effect.

Unless she manages to get herself a couple of big hits / good press next era, her next Spanish date will be a disaster.

[Dark_Lorde]

Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚

Did you not read the link Bang Up posted where it says only about 100 tickets are being sold at a low price? She's selling THOUSANDS of tickets for each show and if you think she's losing a lot when only a hundred of tickets are being sold at low prices for ONE venue then you're just hating blindly and kinda embarrassing yourself.

Sis did YOU read the OP and then bang up's response?

The OP's article is dated November 5th, Bang up checked the site, today. The whole point of them being priced like coffee is so they sell. It stands to reason that by the time forbes edited this and published this + one day ahead when bang up checked, they had sold a fair amount.

So bang up does try to drag but under any kind of scrutiny, it falls to pieces.

Now, She does indeed loose out on ticket sales even though it's the secondary Market. Why? Because in Europe ticket agencies only release a select number of tickets to be sold to the public they then move the remainder over to secondary sellers for sale at triple the price if the artist is in demand. If an artist is not, this very issue that's happening occurs.

Don't take my word for it though, Ticket agencies have been doing this for quite a long time especially in Europe and the US:
In1995:
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/07/06/ar...stigation.html
in 2009:
http://www.billboard.com/biz/article...ter-complaints
In 2012:
http://www.ticketnews.com/news/ticke...tions111214852

Also again last year 2013 they were investigated.

So you see Prince High, what happens is, the created a artificial "sell out" and then moved thousands of tickets that they had over to the secondary company that they own and attempted to sell them at double and triple the price, but it backfired because the demand wasn't there. So she does, lose money which you'll notice in the gross.

It's great bang up provided that list, all it says is loads of people bough tickets between when forbes checked and when he checked.

I do need to correct forbes on one thing though. Rolling Stone retracted calling gaga queen of pop in 2011 as it was discovered they manipulated votes.

To say that Madonna won this poll in a landslide would be like saying that she was a kind of popular pop singer in the 1980s. It wouldn't even begin to explain the scope of the situation. She received five times as many votes as Lady Gaga, who landed in second place by a very comfortable margin.

- Rolling stone 2011.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pi...adonna-0325148

[HeavenMonster]

Originally posted by SupahBass05

Would Forbes lie?



Anyways,

Who are these dudes if your avi?

[Mariano]

Originally posted by retromaury

You are wrong. She IS losing a lot, even if the tickets were originally sold at full price, this is going to affect her next tour, scalpers won't want to invest in buying tickets at full price as soon as they go on sale because the demand for her shows (and I mean like huge tours like madonna grossing $305 million in just 88 shows type of league) it's not there anymore for her. Book me on this for her next tour she will book smaller venues and go to fewer countries.

Its not going ot affect ****.

ARTPOP was not impactful era, yet the tour is oging to earn close to 100M.

Gaga's next album will be handled better than ARTPOP and if resellers buy less tickets, then people will just buy the tickets from the original place and Gaga will still have sold out shows.