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News: Migrant crisis in EU: AUT to build fence on border with SLO
Member Since: 8/29/2009
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Originally posted by AnneBoleyn
What is waiting for them in Germany??
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social and political security, prosperity, money, jobs, housing, shelter, food, clothes, freedom and peace. + HUMAN RIGHTS
something they can only expect in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway and Sweden.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by stevyy
social and political security, prosperity, money, jobs, housing, shelter, food, clothes, freedom and peace. + HUMAN RIGHTS
something they can only expect in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway and Sweden.
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They can literally find that in the entire EU + dozens of countries outside of it
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Member Since: 8/29/2009
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Originally posted by BadMonster
They can literally find that in the entire EU + dozens of countries outside of it
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not true. because France and especially the UK reject them. The UK has closed its borders for refugees completely. Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece and the Balcan cannot afford any more refugees financially and logistically.
Egypt, Libya, Turkey are no democracies. Russia...do i need to say more. People from Syria, Iran, iraq etc.. wont go all the way to the asian democracies (S. Korea and Japan).. Canada, Australia and US don't take any either..
so... where should they go if not to central and northern Europe?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Sasha.
Iceland is so lucky
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lol but where's the lie?
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Member Since: 8/29/2009
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I want to add that Hungary is not really a democracy either anymore.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by slayships
Does anyone know if more developed middle eastern countries like Saudi Arabia and UAE take Syrian immigrants etc? Why are they so desperate to get to Europe I would have thought somewhere culturally more similar would be the first preferred destination
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The ones who are already here have NOT made an effort to be inclusive, they live (traditions and ways of life) in the same way they would leave in Syria or in another arab country.
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Member Since: 9/17/2011
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Originally posted by stevyy
social and political security, prosperity, money, jobs, housing, shelter, food, clothes, freedom and peace. + HUMAN RIGHTS
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Money? Really?
And jobs for 100.000+ people?
I find this hard to believe but I guess it's true
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Member Since: 6/24/2011
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Originally posted by stevyy
I want to add that Hungary is not really a democracy either anymore.
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Even worse is Slovakia saying they'll only accept christian refugees.
Hungary is also being extremely hypocritical considering 180.000 hungarians were refugees in 1956 all over europe.
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Member Since: 11/2/2011
Posts: 9,796
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Originally posted by Damien M
Some people in this thread are just 
These are human beings, not animals. Their home countries are at war, thousands die everyday, no homes, no food, no money, they put their lives (and their children) at risk by traveling thousands of miles across the sea in tiny boats just to get out of that hell.
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That is the thing, there is people who genuinely need help, but then are those who are taking advantage of the situation and just want to get into Europe because now is their chance.
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by AnneBoleyn
They escaped war the second they were on European land tho
Hungary, Serbia, Greece and all those other countries they went through to get to where they are are not at war.
Why this hysterical outbreak to get to Germany?
Why can't they just WAIT to get on these trains like regular passengers? Why do they do this? What is waiting for them in Germany??
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Hungary, Serbia and Greece are poor and do not have the government welfare Germany has
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Member Since: 9/2/2012
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Originally posted by Bathomet
If you want to help, you can send groceries (rice, canned beans etc) or other goods (toothbrush, soap etc) to a donation point via http://bevasarlas.tesco.hu/en-GB. (Practically a webshop of a Hungarian supemarket)
http://www.migrationaid.net/english/
The address is:
Name: Adománygyűjtő Pont
City: Budapest
District: 7.
Zip Number: 1074
Street: Verseny utca
Number: 10
Time of delivery: between 16:00-20:00.
It's close the the train station, the one flooded with refugees. |
Thank you, I was thinking along the lines of money but I think this would be a much better idea. 
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Member Since: 9/17/2011
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Originally posted by Swag
Hungary, Serbia and Greece are poor and do not have the government welfare Germany has
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How long until Germany says "enough" tho?
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Member Since: 8/29/2009
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Germany has for the first time in its history let 100,000 (non-german) refugees cross its borders in a single month (August).
we are indeed the queen of Europe. Ppl can resent us, call us Nazis... but in the past 70+ years and in the decades before the world wars, we stand and stood for everything that is good. people will try to diminish Germany's achievements due to its past while heralding the former allies as the epitomy of good while most of them have done nothing but unholy things to human kind in either the past or the present.
While the extreme right is increasing in votes in all western countries, Germany's 2 right-wing neo nationalist parties aren't even in the parliament bc nobody votes for them.
People ask why Germany has become the leading country in Europe? Under a currency that nobody within Germany wanted in the first place?
The answer is because we care and we do things. We ain't sitting on our bums doing absolutely nothing, drinking tea and spitting hateful arguments in the european parliament (UK, France etc).
I am proud of Germany for standing up for those who can't do it on their own and for standing strong in what they believe in and what is right ( at least in this case).
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Member Since: 8/27/2012
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Originally posted by AnneBoleyn
Money? Really?
I find this hard to believe but I guess it's true
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Each refugee (over 18 years old), in the refugee camps,gets 143 Euro per month besides clothes, food and other stuff they get for free. That's more than some people in Eastern Europe earn per month. After leaving the refugee camp they get around 359 Euro per month. If they have children they get even more.
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Member Since: 8/29/2009
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Originally posted by AnneBoleyn
How long until Germany says "enough" tho?
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Germany is going to take 1 mllion refugees this year. The UK dropped out after a couple thousand.. lol.
I think 1 million is the maximum we can adjust. I don't know how many more we can take in 2016. Germany will most likely overtake the United States in 2016 as #1 destination for worldwide immgration. <3
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Member Since: 8/29/2009
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I bet Angela Merkel is working on getting the Nobel Peace Prize... If she manages it to adjust 1 million refugees, she surely deserves that honor in my opinion.. altho i usually despise her politics.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Can't they just exterminate and demolish ISIS already ? I mean, it's not the same like fighting for petrol, but at leasy protect the innocent people? Also I didn't know ISIS were killing that many muslims, I thought their main goal is to try to recruit as many muslims as possible and invade Europe? Wasn't that what their leader said ?
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Member Since: 10/19/2010
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Originally posted by Brunette Ambition
Are you personally bothered with refugees or migrants? 
I'm German and I see lots of them on the street, even on Grindr and I couldn't care less,
I only want them to live a great life, like everyone deserves. |
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Member Since: 8/29/2009
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Originally posted by BlackAura
Can't they just exterminate and demolish ISIS already ? I mean, it's not the same like fighting for petrol, but at leasy protect the innocent people? Also I didn't know ISIS were killing that many muslims, I thought their main goal is to try to recruit as many muslims as possible and invade Europe? Wasn't that what their leader said ?
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the region is too fragil for anyone to do anything remotely political. You cannot occupy the area and change them to democracies. The US won't have it and Europe is not strong enough to fight them all on their own (especially since nobody would want to go to war, especially not Germany).
the only solution is to let them dry out over there, while Europe takes all of their populations and then closes its borders.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
Posts: 15,264
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Originally posted by stevyy
Germany has for the first time in its history let 100,000 (non-german) refugees cross its borders in a single month (August).
we are indeed the queen of Europe. Ppl can resent us, call us Nazis... but in the past 70+ years and in the decades before the world wars, we stand and stood for everything that is good. people will try to diminish Germany's achievements due to its past while heralding the former allies as the epitomy of good while most of them have done nothing but unholy things to human kind in either the past or the present.
While the extreme right is increasing in votes in all western countries, Germany's 2 right-wing neo nationalist parties aren't even in the parliament bc nobody votes for them.
People ask why Germany has become the leading country in Europe? Under a currency that nobody within Germany wanted in the first place?
The answer is because we care and we do things. We ain't sitting on our bums doing absolutely nothing, drinking tea and spitting hateful arguments in the european parliament (UK, France etc).
I am proud of Germany for standing up for those who can't do it on their own and for standing strong in what they believe in and what is right ( at least in this case).
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You can say all this, but statistically speaking Germany is nowhere near queen of Europe... over 20% of the people living in The Netherlands and in France are immigrants/refugees when not even 10% of the people in Germany are. Germany is a huge country with a lot of inhabitants, so you have to look at the statistics and going by that I think Germany could do a lot more tbh. The UK too, only 8.4% of the population is an immigrant. And I'm not saying France/NL shouldn't help at all, but it should be more equal among all EU member states, it's a problem the world has to solve together and I do feel the US should give a lot of financial support or fly the immigrants to the States on their costs, cuz they were the ones to create and start the mess in the Middle East
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