It's embarrassing with pop stans think that rock bands aren't relevant when they influenced so many things in music today.
To be on a music forum, you should know the best artists in each genre. You should know Dolly Parton, Garth Brooks, Shania Twain for country. You should know Iron Maiden, Queen, The Doors, The Ramones, ect. Just like everyone knows the best pop stars like Madonna, Prince, Cher, ect.
You're better off not knowing rock, sis
Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, the Beatles, Aerosmith, The Eagles,"Fleetwood Mac," Guns N' Roses, etc. are who come to mind when thinking of the quintessential rock artists.
I do think you'd have to have been living under a rock to not at least recognize the names of these rock legends. Like for instance I don't know a single song by Pink Floyd but I do know they're British and from the classic rock era.
To be on a music forum, you should know the best artists in each genre. You should know Dolly Parton, Garth Brooks, Shania Twain for country. You should know Iron Maiden, Queen, The Doors, The Ramones, ect. Just like everyone knows the best pop stars like Madonna, Prince, Cher, ect.
To play a little devil's advocate here, I guess, this is a pop music forum. It's not specifically built to be oriented toward general music, and I don't think one must be familiar with these acts' music in order to enjoy and discuss current/former pop artists. This place was literally built on the legacy of a Top 40 video countdown show, on which Britney Spears was the most successful artist followed by the two biggest boy bands of the late 90's.
I'm just saying, I don't think anyone at all should be required to be that familiar with rock music (I mean, to the extent of knowing a lot of the actual songs and albums or what many of the artists sounded like) if they don't claim to know the history behind the music they like, and I don't think that rock music knowledge is a necessity here.
I know more than enough about rock music, but most of it before a couple years ago was unwillingly absorbed from my father's fixations on the genre, and was for the most part entirely distinct from my knowledge of and interest in pop music until I consciously decided I wanted to learn more of the history, more about the origins of my own favorite acts and sounds, etc.
What gets me is that quite a few young'ns never heard of the Beatles; But the fact of the matter is that had they never existed, we would still be listening to Bing Crosby!
Making this about race? Typical SJW atrl I'm so bored. I mean obviously rock music came from blues and pop came from rock, you act like I'm some kind of white supremacist that thinks rock is the only good genre. You can either accept that rock music has had the most success and is the most iconic (decades upon decades of bands and artists, Elvis, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Janis Joplin, Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Guns n Roses, Nirvana, Radiohead, Mumford & Sons). The list goes on an on tbh and you can either accept it (you don't have to like it) or look ignorant.
I also mentioned Classical music in my post, which came from White Europeans. Both classical and blues are together the most important genres in musical history.
Also Rock DID come from Blues and it was most definitely about race at the time. It's not some petty modern day SJW fabrication. It is very insulting when Rock fans act like their genre is original, blatantly ignore the history and origins of the genre, and then subsequently go on to pretentiously criticise the R&B, Funk, Soul etc. of today as if they don't owe something to the origins of these genres.
How can you say that the artists listed are blankly more iconic an influential than Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky etc. and then Michael Jackson, Etta James, Prince, Stevie Wonder, Ella Fitzgerald etc.
You can't seem to accept that only certain people have grown up with Rock, whilst others haven't so it is not fair to definitively label MJ or Led Zeppelin more iconic than each-other.
Why do pop fans get so angry when everybody says the majority of pop music is basic, uninspired trash and so are its artists? It's the same thing darling, Rock stans aren't the only pretentious ones
Oh and to the question, they get defensive because rock music is the most iconic genre with the most remembered artists/bands and if you call yourself a music fan yet don't know the basics of the rock genre then you look stupid.
Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, the Beatles, Aerosmith, The Eagles,"Fleetwood Mac," Guns N' Roses, etc. are who come to mind when thinking of the quintessential rock artists.
This tbh. Literally the only group I've heard of in the quoted was Queen
Rock stans just have to understand that rock isn't nearly as big as it used to be. And even back when it was big, there were still other genres that different communities listened to. My dad never listened to rock, he grew up on old school hip hop and R&B. And people that were born in the mid to late 90s really have no reason to know any of these legendary rock groups either because they weren't relevant during their time.
Different strokes for different folks. Some of you just have to accept that fact.
What are you even talking about? Rock only started in the 1950's as the white descendant of Blues, Jazz and R&B. Rock is in no way the most iconic genre, in any regard. Blues came before and has far outlived it by simply continuing to influence so many forms of music since.
Why should anybody have to care about Rock more than a lot of other overlooked genres unless they actually like it. It is one thing respecting the foundations of music as we know it such as Blues or Classical music. But Rock is just there. Sure there is a lot of talent within the genre and affected a lot of people at the time of its popularity, but at the end of the day, its predecessors are much more important and should garner much more respect amongst musicians.
Rock stans be like "know your roots, kid!" "you don't know rock history? embarassing!" but I bet they don't know **** about classical music.
Similar to SJWs, they act this way to look "woke".
I also mentioned Classical music in my post, which came from White Europeans. Both classical and blues are together the most important genres in musical history.
Also Rock DID come from Blues and it was most definitely about race at the time. It's not some petty modern day SJW fabrication. It is very insulting when Rock fans act like their genre is original, blatantly ignore the history and origins of the genre, and then subsequently go on to pretentiously criticise the R&B, Funk, Soul etc. of today as if they don't owe something to the origins of these genres.
How can you say that the artists listed are blankly more iconic an influential than Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky etc. and then Michael Jackson, Etta James, Prince, Stevie Wonder, Ella Fitzgerald etc.
You can't seem to accept that only certain people have grown up with Rock, whilst others haven't so it is not fair to definitively label MJ or Led Zeppelin more iconic than each-other.
Just because YOU and YOUR friends grew up on rock bands doesn't mean people in other communities did too. Your reality is not everyone else's. To a lot of black people, Michael Jackson, Prince, Stevie Wonder, Ella Fitzgerald, etc. are the quintessential acts of their day.
its funny because i only see white artists who are defended in such a way
artists who are important in founding or shaping black music are not canonized in the same way white artists are. lack of knowledge of the former is accepted but the latter is treated as general knowledge. like, no one would drag you for not knowing the members of NWA for example but god forbid you don't know every member of the beatles.
Sam Smith knows who Tom Yorke is. He was being a dick because every music blog panned his terrible Bond song while praising Radiohead's. It's so cringeworthy.
It's okay to be oblivious to certain legends and such. This is why we have Google and Apple Music. It's not okay to purposely be ignorant about rock music if you are going to try to come for a rock artist or talk about it.
I also mentioned Classical music in my post, which came from White Europeans. Both classical and blues are together the most important genres in musical history.
Also Rock DID come from Blues and it was most definitely about race at the time. It's not some petty modern day SJW fabrication. It is very insulting when Rock fans act like their genre is original, blatantly ignore the history and origins of the genre, and then subsequently go on to pretentiously criticise the R&B, Funk, Soul etc. of today as if they don't owe something to the origins of these genres.
How can you say that the artists listed are blankly more iconic an influential than Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky etc. and then Michael Jackson, Etta James, Prince, Stevie Wonder, Ella Fitzgerald etc.
You can't seem to accept that only certain people have grown up with Rock, whilst others haven't so it is not fair to definitively label MJ or Led Zeppelin more iconic than each-other.
I love most types and can and do acknowledge those artists are incredibly influential and important in the history of music. Artists and bands (and composers ) from all the different types of genres have had impact on modern artists and bands and artists and bands of their time. It's like a chain reaction, over time, the genres have influenced future genres and they've helped to create the groundbreaking musicians we know of today.
It's so weird how nasty they get. If you told me you hadn't heard of, say, Led Zeppelin, yeah I'd be judging you a bit but I'd also just be like okay this is who they are, here's a song by them, etc ec
I actually created a Rock Music Forum thread here on ATRL because there wasn't one. I don't criticize those who don't know who a certain Rock artist is, but I would recommend the unaware person check the artist out to see why so many people like that Rock artist. The unaware person might actually like what he/she hears.