Discussion: Is the Beyonce praise becoming a cliche?? - Page 8

Bmezy

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Originally posted by QueenBeé

Let's say the media over-praises her, what is your excuse for the praise coming from her inspirations and newbies she has inspired?

Adele
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZk4-FoRBk

Ariana Grande

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“That’s where I discovered my range. I grew up listening to Destiny’s Child. I would try so hard to mimic all Beyoncé’s little runs and ad-lib things. They are so precise. It’s like math. Remember the Destiny’s Child version of ‘Carol of the Bells?’ I took it apart, put it in GarageBand, and dissected it all. That’s how I learned about harmonies and runs and ad-libs.

http://www.vmagazine.com/site/content/2304/grande-dame

Hot_As_Ice

It's too much, I actually started disliking her because of all the UNREALISTIC and HIGHLY EXAGGERATED praise she gets.

TipToe

Well, it doesn't happen often but some people are almost unanimity. Beyoncé is respected, period, you may not like the reasons or don't even know why, but she is and it will take something really ****ed up to diminish this. From now on, her status will only be more and more cemented.

Lord Blackout

Her propaganda is annoying, but not falling for it is somewhat empowering.

Raava

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Originally posted by Kisuke

She been around for 20 years in the game she worked her ass of to get where she is. The only ones complaining about her getting praised are the ones who faves either crashed and burned or basically only of the singles charts to defend there faves with.

Where are the bruno.pink or adele fans b!tching about someone getting praised ?

And dead at the girls saying she has an amazing pr. The ones that said nothing against the elevator gate. the photoshopped pictures this year ?

bey will keep getting praised if you don't like it @ your fav to step up their cookies so bey her talent wouldn't stand out so much amongst her *peers*

Was I the only one who detected the shade?

xxthixx

it is. and it makes her so careful with her image in public because she doesnt want to break that perfection.

ABEL-o-matic

Being the standard comes with great responsibilities, such as being the target of criticisms. Of course, she'll be a cliche because everyone is using her as a reference to measure success.

Hot_As_Ice

It just became too much to handle, I mean, she hasn't even got that much music success, she can't get a top 10 hit, and the success of the album was just because of the very smart commercial move.

Walley

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Originally posted by Hot_As_Ice

It just became too much to handle, I mean, she hasn't even got that much music success, she can't get a top 10 hit, and the success of the album was just because of the very smart commercial move.

Sis but Beyoncé had a #2 hit in 2014. When was Britney's last Top 10?

Mr. Fahrenheit

I think she deserves a lot of praise for her raw talent, as she is definitely the most gifted performer in pop music at the moment. Also, her last couple of albums have been pretty good and she's released some great singles over the years.

However, she can be extremely vapid, tacky and banal. She's not a particularly intelligent person and her politics/opinions have no real substance.

TL;DR - Beyoncé the performer deserves the praise, Beyoncé the artist/person doesn't.

DanceAgain

there is better artists then her but less vocally i mean janet and JLo aint as vocally gifted as her but are way better dancers,actors,performers then her.

But shes good at what shes does and she has a smart team behind her team create the image shes more bigger then she actually is. I always remember seeing a article in the paper showing her career stats compared to others and it showed you that beyonce actually does 3times more gets bigger promo erc then the average popstar just to see the same results really opened my eyes bout her

22 Two's

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Originally posted by DanceAgain

there is better artists then her but less vocally i mean janet and JLo aint as vocally gifted as her but are way better dancers,actors,performers then her.

But shes good at what shes does and she has a smart team behind her team create the image shes more bigger then she actually is. I always remember seeing a article in the paper showing her career stats compared to others and it showed you that beyonce actually does 3times more gets bigger promo erc then the average popstar just to see the same results really opened my eyes bout her

to begin J.Lo & Janet are not better performers than Bey. we would have known by now.

secondly your last part is completely funny cause an artist like Prince with a true artistic integrity and huge effort of promo (he was always touring and doing TV appareances at the times) didn't get the same shine as Michael Jackson. and yet if you compare they both has equally time-defying and classic discographies. plus Beyoncé doesn't need 3times more effort than her peers; her stage presence doesn't mean she's forcing; it's natural; if anything she's more limited than her peers by the fact that her singing style and music is heavily r&b and that that genre has never been accepted fully outside the urban audience.

Britney, Katy (and she didn't outsell bey), Taylor (she didn't either), Gaga are white pop girls with mainstream pop sounds; but they still fail to match Beyoncé longevity; obviously Britney & Gaga had huge peaks; but you really want to compare two blond pop singers to a mixed/black r&b singer singing about feminism and monogamy (not just love, adult relationship)?

don't say Bey needs 3times more effort cause ultimately her last album had 3 TV promo and ended up being the best selling album of 2014 behind the biggest movie of the year (promoted in all theathers).

as for Rihanna; she isn't as R&B as Beyoncé. her music is completely sell-out (dance singles after dance singles even since her two mixtape). if it wasn't for the image style change, Euro DJs and the Chris Brown relationship her career would never be.

Bottom line is Beyoncé is an R&B artist faithful to her core whose legacy is based on talent and grace; with a strooong message (don't say it's superficial when on each album since 1999 she has at least one blatant girl power song); timeless records; awards as receipts; sales are a bonus but still above 200 million copies WW (with 80 million LPs copies sold and 120 million singles); with a streaming strength unmatched by her peers (Britney, Alicia, Christina, Justin Timberlake); a real normal life; doesn't rely on hair color to sell; not to compare with anyone from this generation.

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Originally posted by Mr. Fahrenheit

I think she deserves a lot of praise for her raw talent, as she is definitely the most gifted performer in pop music at the moment. Also, her last couple of albums have been pretty good and she's released some great singles over the years.

However, she can be extremely vapid, tacky and banal. She's not a particularly intelligent person and her politics/opinions have no real substance.

TL;DR - Beyoncé the performer deserves the praise, Beyoncé the artist/person doesn't.

*of all time
*very good - excellent
*classics

the performer, the artist definitely (voice, dancing, career projection, signature pose, rapsinging etc...), the person (wth she's one of the sweetest hollywoodian and one of the most humble artist in history)

DanceAgain

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Originally posted by 22 Two's

to begin J.Lo & Janet are not better performers than Bey. we would have known by now.

secondly your last part is completely funny cause an artist like Prince with a true artistic integrity and huge effort of promo (he was always touring and doing TV appareances at the times) didn't get the same shine as Michael Jackson. and yet if you compare they both has equally time-defying and classic discographies. plus Beyoncé doesn't need 3times more effort than her peers; her stage presence doesn't mean she's forcing; it's natural; if anything she's more limited than her peers by the fact that her singing style and music is heavily r&b and that that genre has never been accepted fully outside the urban audience.

Britney, Katy (and she didn't outsell bey), Taylor (she didn't either), Gaga are white pop girls with mainstream pop sounds; but they still fail to match Beyoncé longevity; obviously Britney & Gaga had huge peaks; but you really want to compare two blond pop singers to a mixed/black r&b singer singing about feminism and monogamy (not just love, adult relationship)?

don't say Bey needs 3times more effort cause ultimately her last album had 3 TV promo and ended up being the best selling album of 2014 behind the biggest movie of the year (promoted in all theathers).

as for Rihanna; she isn't as R&B as Beyoncé. her music is completely sell-out (dance singles after dance singles even since her two mixtape). if it wasn't for the image style change, Euro DJs and the Chris Brown relationship her career would never be.

Bottom line is Beyoncé is an R&B artist faithful to her core whose legacy is based on talent and grace; with a strooong message (don't say it's superficial when on each album since 1999 she has at least one blatant girl power song); timeless records; awards as receipts; sales are a bonus but still above 200 million copies WW (with 80 million LPs copies sold and 120 million singles); with a streaming strength unmatched by her peers (Britney, Alicia, Christina, Justin Timberlake); a real normal life; doesn't rely on hair color to sell; not to compare with anyone from this generation.

*of all time
*very good - excellent
*classics

the performer, the artist definitely (voice, dancing, career projection, signature pose, rapsinging etc...), the person (wth she's one of the sweetest hollywoodian and one of the most humble artist in history)

No.

And shes not even on JLo or janets level as a performer jennifer and janet have performances beyonce couldnt even touch what so ever.
and i dont care how many times u say it beyonce is not as good as a dancer as JLo and janet

Ok so album sales it topped over 100 itunes chart and only sold less then 4 million worldwide

4 MILLION!!! Why is that? Album sales have declined but if you put out a fantastic album people will buy it! artists like taylor are selling more in the US then artists like beyonce are worldwide. If she didnt suprise release it her sales would be way way smaller and everyone knows it

Beyonce is overrated hence steller album sales worldwide and lack of hit singles proves it.shes hyped

Thats my opinion so dont come at me acting like your opinions are facts cos they not.

KangBey

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Originally posted by DanceAgain

No.

And shes not even on JLo or janets level as a performer jennifer and janet have performances beyonce couldnt even touch what so ever.
and i dont care how many times u say it beyonce is not as good as a dancer as JLo and janet

Ok so album sales it topped over 100 itunes chart and only sold less then 4 million worldwide

4 MILLION!!! Why is that? Album sales have declined but if you put out a fantastic album people will buy it! artists like taylor are selling more in the US then artists like beyonce are worldwide. If she didnt suprise release it her sales would be way way smaller and everyone knows it

Beyonce is overrated hence steller album sales worldwide and lack of hit singles proves it.shes hyped

Thats my opinion so dont come at me acting like your opinions are facts cos they not.

Mess at you using Taylor who is selling more than everybody and is in the early stages of her career. Beyonce outsold PRISM and Unapologetic with only 1top five hit, while they Rih and Katy had massive hits.

As far as performing, why is she the 3rd highest grossing female artist for tours, only behind Madonna and Celine Dion. Janet and Jlo are no where near the top. So let me guess you believe hype got her these receipts in your delusional mind. lol

22 Two's

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Originally posted by DanceAgain

No.

And shes not even on JLo or janets level as a performer jennifer and janet have performances beyonce couldnt even touch what so ever.
and i dont care how many times u say it beyonce is not as good as a dancer as JLo and janet

Ok so album sales it topped over 100 itunes chart and only sold less then 4 million worldwide

4 MILLION!!! Why is that? Album sales have declined but if you put out a fantastic album people will buy it! artists like taylor are selling more in the US then artists like beyonce are worldwide. If she didnt suprise release it her sales would be way way smaller and everyone knows it

Beyonce is overrated hence steller album sales worldwide and lack of hit singles proves it.shes hyped

Thats my opinion so dont come at me acting like your opinions are facts cos they not.

SELF TITLED wasn't promoted and had 1 true international single; gurl put Taylor Katy or Rihanna in the same situation = drop album and raise Blue Ivy at home. do one or two performances with a 6 month gap between them. they wouldn't even sell 3M WW tbh.

4 wasn't supported by radios and still sold 3M WW with a retro r&b /funk sound.

her albums are fantastic independently of her sales; FKA Twigs is excellent but doesnt sell *****. Tinashe debut is excellent but didnt scan 100K. WTF are you even talking about?

OT: she deserves the praise even more with her two last eras where she sold 3-5M WW without radio support and load of promo. she proved she has a huge fanbase and is well settled on her throne.

and again Janet & J.Lo are not better performers; performing includes vocals gymnastics, techniques, dancing, stage presence and ability to do all at once.