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Discussion: "Chandelier" video inappropriate
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Pretty much every girl who dances ballet wears this type of leotards.
And she's doing that.
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Twerking and Crumping is not ballet. Maybe in a ratchet area, is that what you are used to?
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Where are the morals in this thread geez
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Originally posted by Rihinvention
As I've said many times, just because it's not intended to be a sexual video doesn't mean that pedophiles won't use it to get off to it. We need to recognise that as a fact. I'm telling you now, tens of thousands of pedophiles have masturbated to this video and if it were my niece, I would not be ok with that. Flesh-coloured or not, maybe she should have been wearing different clothes altogether. Those outlines, however, are only made that much more visible by the fact that the leotard is flesh-coloured and somewhat transparent.
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what the heck are you talking about? what proof do you have that tens of thousands of pedophiles are even watching this video?? because i really, really doubt that. don't they have more explicit things to get off to??
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I'm not saying the video itself is inappropriate. She's a very talented young girl. But I'm saying, the fact that an adult (or several adults) decided to publish this the video without any care for the fact that pedophiles would inevitably use it as stimulating material, is quite foolish and unethical. Either they were ignorant about it or they didn't care about it, possibly because Maddie's mum is a stage mother. I know most parents wouldn't allow the world to see this.
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i'm pretty sure they didn't care because you can't really stop people from getting off to things if they're prominent in public space, and also because it's really unlikely that anyone got off to it anyway. they don't want to change their video because a tiny section of the population MAY do something inappropriate with it.
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As horrible as it is to judge a book by its cover, sometimes profiling people is necessary. How many 16 year old girls are pedophiles? Probably none.
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what an ignorant statement. pedophilia is a fetish anyone can have, regardless of age and especially regardless of gender.
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Nope. Young gymnasts wear nude leotards all the time
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Oh My God
Firstly, ALL DANCERS her age wear this kind of stuff. If you see something sexual about it, then YOU'RE the problem. I never saw any of this because I was too busy watching the performance. My six year old sister does this kind of dance, and I never once went to her shows and even noticed for one minute leotards are see-through.
You have to be looking for it. And if you are, that's the problem.
The song is about facing inner demons. The child is representing inner demons that stem from childhood through interpretive dance. Children have been performing like this for centuries.
If YOU the viewer find this offensive, YOU the viewer are the one with the problem. Not the people that made the video. If you find anything sexual about this video, YOU are the one feeling a sexual response from what you are seeing. That is YOUR trail of thought from something that suggests nothing close to it.
Girls do dancing and wear these costumes. Get over it. You shouldn't be analysing an 11 year old girl like she's an adult. She's an 11 year old girl.
When young girls under 10 don't wear bikini's at a pool do you think "oh my god, that child is topless"? No because a child is a child. And if you do, than that's where the problem lies. In yourself.
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...what the heck is this thread even, there aren't even any parts deemed as sexual being shown. how is this even a problem?
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Originally posted by dazjaali
Where are the morals in this thread geez
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"everyone who disagrees with me has bad morals!!!1"
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Originally posted by gloamingtheplain
Oh My God
Firstly, ALL DANCERS her age wear this kind of stuff. If you see something sexual about it, then YOU'RE the problem. I never saw any of this because I was too busy watching the performance. My six year old sister does this kind of dance, and I never once went to her shows and even noticed for one minute leotards are see-through.
You have to be looking for it. And if you are, that's the problem.
The song is about facing inner demons. The child is representing inner demons that stem from childhood through interpretive dance. Children have been performing like this for centuries.
If YOU the viewer find this offensive, YOU the viewer are the one with the problem. Not the people that made the video. If you find anything sexual about this video, YOU are the one feeling a sexual response from what you are seeing. That is YOUR trail of thought from something that suggests nothing close to it.
Girls do dancing and wear these costumes. Get over it. You shouldn't be analysing an 11 year old girl like she's an adult. She's an 11 year old girl.
When young girls under 10 don't wear bikini's at a pool do you think "oh my god, that child is topless"? No because a child is a child. And if you do, than that's where the problem lies. In yourself.
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This video sexualizes this young girl, from the attire, to the dance moves, the setting, and the lyrics. That's cute you allow your sister to wear provocative clothing at 6, but everyone doesn't find that appropriate, and I'm one of them.
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Originally posted by accelgors
"everyone who disagrees with me has bad morals!!!1"
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*Lacks morals
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Originally posted by accelgors
...what the heck is this thread even, there aren't even any parts deemed as sexual being shown. how is this even a problem?
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You obviously haven't been raped, u wouldn't understand.
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Originally posted by dazjaali
This video sexualizes this young girl, from the attire, to the dance moves, the setting, and the lyrics. That's cute you allow your sister to wear provocative clothing at 6, but everyone doesn't find that appropriate, and I'm one of them.
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In other words, you're a self admitted pedo?
Disgusting, I'm glad you're nowhere near her.
There is nothing sexual about a child wearing a leotard. That's like saying kids shouldn't wear jeans because it shows they have a but. Or kids can't wear bathers incase an outline shows.
Because there are people like you LOOKING for those things on a kid, no matter if you find it appropriate or not.
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT. WHICH IS WHAT'S WRONG.
How can you look at a child and have SEX enter your mind.
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Originally posted by dazjaali
You obviously haven't been raped, u wouldn't understand.
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& where you wearing suggestive clothing when you were supposedly raped?
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Originally posted by dazjaali
You obviously haven't been raped, u wouldn't understand.
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what the heck, this is the one of the most offensive and ignorant things i've ever read
i actually know several rape victims very well and i've helped them when they're having horrible PTSD related attacks and i know that rape might make you sensitive about these issues, but it doesn't make you automatically think things are sexual when they're not. what a disgusting sentiment - "anyone who is raped agrees with my opinion", how dare you use people's trauma as a way to advance your point? no, everyone experiences the trauma associated with rape differently, and rape victims won't all have the same opinions about things. way to make huge generalizations about a group of people and define them by their trauma, which is the exact opposite of what everyone i know that's been raped wants.
and actually, just because i haven't been raped doesn't mean i don't understand what's sexual and what's not
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Originally posted by gloamingtheplain
& where you wearing suggestive clothing when you were supposedly raped?
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So if I were wearing suggestive clothing when I got raped, u are implying I deserved it. I called attention to the suggestive clothing in the video and u called me a pedophile. You make so much sense.
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Have you not seen a ballet?
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Originally posted by accelgors
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what the heck, this is the one of the most offensive and ignorant things i've ever read
i actually know several rape victims very well and i've helped them when they're having horrible PTSD related attacks and i know that rape might make you sensitive about these issues, but it doesn't make you automatically think things are sexual when they're not. what a disgusting sentiment - "anyone who is raped agrees with my opinion", how dare you use people's trauma as a way to advance your point? no, everyone experiences the trauma associated with rape differently, and rape victims won't all have the same opinions about things. way to make huge generalizations about a group of people and define them by their trauma, which is the exact opposite of what everyone i know that's been raped wants.
and actually, just because i haven't been raped doesn't mean i don't understand what's sexual and what's not
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You can't be offended now, I'm sure all the rape victims you know would be horrified to know that you defend pedophilia and sexualizing children.
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Originally posted by Haus of Dye
Have you not seen a ballet?
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Yes, ballet dancers usually wear a tutu over their body suits to cover up lower regions. If u had actually seen ballet in your life, u would be aware of that fact.
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Originally posted by dazjaali
So if I were wearing suggestive clothing when I got raped, u are implying I deserved it. I called attention to the suggestive clothing in the video and u called me a pedophile. You make so much sense.
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No.
I'm saying that people with intention to rape, don't give a damn about what you're wearing.
They know whats underneath.
You're implying that this child is being dressed inappropriately, then went to say you were raped as a child. But if you weren't dressed inappropriately, yet still had it happen to you, then can't you see the flaw in your way of thinking.
My sister isn't going to get raped because she's wearing a leotard. Unfortunately, kids are victimised at schools, parks etc. when they are fully clothed.
So no, the only people that are going to find something sexual about this is if they are sexual alert in this particular field. This girl could've worn a tracksuit and a predator could find it a turn on.
But the fact there are people TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING SEXUAL in this video, is only making aware there are people looking at this child in a sexual manner, not that the child is being sexual.
Which is gross.
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