[Nicole]

Originally posted by m-m-m-monster

Don't generalizing. You know that not all of us are bad.

Like Jordan, Jay, and myself, for instance.

I didn't say religious people, I said religion.

[Mani.]

Originally posted by Kevinkdc

Okay. So my subconscious can show me the future ? I have had dreams that came completly or partly true. If there isn't a God then the supernatural world shouldn't excist. I believe in the supernatural world.

I want to tell y'all a story.
There was some kind of prayer group at my middle school and at that time I had given my life to Christ about a month or two ago. One day the prayer group went to all the classrooms and said "If you are a child of Christ, you come right now without questions". I went and so did a couple of others. It appears someone of the school was going to summit suicide and the prayer group asked us to first thank the lord, worship him and then pray that the dude wouldn't do it. Well I felt really weird and uncomfortable by the way the people were praying, singing and dancing and stuff. Then while they were praying really loudly, it was like if they were fighting in a other world. I closed my eyes and I pictured the guy comitting suicide and going to hell. I suddenly became mad and started to pray like crazy. I was saying a lot of things and very fast, I was praying faster, faster and faster and then suddenly I felt fire going true my mouth and I started to speak a langauge I couldn't understand. I couldn't stop it. It just kept going. My tongue was going crazy. There was no way to controle it. Then suddenly after 10 minutes the whole group stopped praying at the same moment. I was feeling very dissy and confused. And then the leader of the group asked if someone experienced something and without thinking I said "I was speaking in tongues". One hour later the guy returned to school and said that he almost comitted suicide but he heard voices calling him back to school.

You may think I'm crazy, but I have experienced some pretty crazy stuff. I for one think that dreams are linked to the supernatural world. I am not as christianly as before more because of the gay thing, but I do believe in God. And despite everything that I saw and experienced, there is no way in my mind that I can believe that God is sending that many people to Hell for just being gay or having sex before marriage or not living the "perfect life".

Wow .. That was an amazing story. Thats probably something you'll never forget

[LostInStereo100]

Originally posted by Patrick

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[EarlyMorning]

Originally posted by Kevinkdc

OKAY OKAY. I read everyones post and I want y'all to ask you one thing......... What are dreams ?

I've always wondered that as well, but at the same time I think some things are better left undefined.

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by freebitch26

ok, i don't believe in god because there have been so many other religions before christianity and there are so many things that don't even make sense in the bible plus what about those other people that lived way before us since they didn't believe in god where did they go?

Theism has always existed, though - since recorded history. The Mayans had religion. The Ancient Greeks and Romans had religion. etc. etc.

[freebitch26]

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

Anyway, I don't mean to attack religion like this.

But religion is so condemning of people (despite claiming otherwise) that you can't help but want to strike back.

religion spread fast because of the promise, the promise of heaven and the punishment of hell plus they were not educated and did not know what we know today about the world and it's very divisive BUT i respect other's opinions as long as they don't try to force it against me

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

I didn't say religious people, I said religion.

Fair enough - like Anne Hathaway as Selina Kyle, this is something we'll just have to agree to disagree on.

[freebitch26]

Originally posted by m-m-m-monster

Theism has always existed, though - since recorded history. The Mayans had religion. The Ancient Greeks and Romans had religion. etc. etc.

yeah but now that is mythology

[Hollywood.]

All the cool kids are gonna be in hell

[J a y]

Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by freebitch26

yeah but now that is mythology

It was still religion, though.

[freebitch26]

Originally posted by HollywoodForever

All the cool kids are gonna be in hell

they better open up the gates

[LostInStereo100]

The Biggest Thing That Bothers Me Is When People Force You To Believe Or Not Believe In Certain Religions/Non-Religions.
It's Just So Stupid To Do Such A Thing Like That

[Quiqui4eva]

Originally posted by Kevinkdc

Okay. So my subconscious can show me the future ? I have had dreams that came completly or partly true. If there isn't a God then the supernatural world shouldn't excist. I believe in the supernatural world.

I want to tell y'all a story.
There was some kind of prayer group at my middle school and at that time I had given my life to Christ about a month or two ago. One day the prayer group went to all the
classrooms and said "If you are a child of Christ, you come right now without questions". I went and so did a couple of others. It appears someone of the school was going to summit suicide and the prayer group asked us to first thank the lord, worship him and then pray that the
dude wouldn't do it. Well I felt really weird and uncomfortable by the way the people were praying, singing and dancing and stuff. Then while they were praying really loudly, it was like if they were fighting in a other world. I closed my eyes and I pictured the guy comitting suicide
and going to hell. I suddenly became mad and started to pray like crazy. I was saying a lot of things and very fast, I was praying faster, faster and faster and then suddenly I felt fire going true my mouth and I started to speak a langauge I couldn't understand. I couldn't stop it. It just
kept going. My tongue was going crazy. There was no way to controle it. Then suddenly after 10 minutes the whole group stopped praying at the same moment. I was feeling very dissy and confused. And then the leader of the group asked if someone experienced something and without thinking I said "I was speaking in tongues". One hour later
the guy returned to school and said that he almost comitted suicide but he heard voices calling him back to school.

You may think I'm crazy, but I have experienced some pretty crazy stuff. I for one think that dreams are linked
to the supernatural world. I am not as christianly as before more because of the gay thing, but I do believe in God. And despite
everything that I saw and experienced, there is no way in my mind that I can believe that God is sending that many people to Hell for
just being gay or having sex before marriage or not living the "perfect life".

Woah

That is really cool!

[freebitch26]

Originally posted by m-m-m-monster

It was still religion, though.

yeah but i was talking about the ones wayyyyyyyyyyyy back not humnas

[Mani.]

So I guess masturbating is a form of sin too? cuz I'm laying down and err ...

[Ginger.]

Originally posted by Lost_In_Stereo100

The Biggest Thing That Bothers Me Is When People Force You To Believe Or Not Believe In Certain Religions/Non-Religions.
It's Just So Stupid To Do Such A Thing Like That

Or judge you based on what you believe. Like if you're Christian, people seem expect certain things from you, or expect you to act a certain way, depending on how open you are about it. And if you don't believe in anything, people judge you in the sense that you don't believe. If that makes sense.


And that is one of my biggest pet peeves, is when someone tries to shove religion down my throat. Personally, I think it's something you need to find out for yourself, using things like the church/bible/people etc, to help guide you on your path.

[Onen]

Originally posted by Mąni Lιn`Dεε

So I guess masturbating is a form of sin too? cuz I'm laying down and err ...

Ive always been curious about that.

[LostInStereo100]

Originally posted by JustAHolyFool

Or judge you based on what you believe. Like if you're Christian, people seem expect certain things from you, or expect you to act a certain way, depending on how open you are about it. And if you don't believe in anything, people judge you in the sense that you don't believe. If that makes sense.

Exactly! And Yeah It Makes Sense!

[KevinKDC]

Originally posted by Lost_In_Stereo100

The Biggest Thing That Bothers Me Is When People Force You To Believe Or Not Believe In Certain Religions/Non-Religions.
It's Just So Stupid To Do Such A Thing Like That

That is very stupid as well. But you have to see it like this. Let's say you are a Christian and I'm a moslim. And in the bible it says that if someone doesn't give their life to Christ that person is going to Hell. Now let's say I was your boyfriend or someone very close to you. At some point you are going to do anything so that the person can give their life to Christ because you don't want them to burn in hell.

Yes it is very wrong to force your believe but when you are trying to look from a different perspective you can't blame them for trying so hard. If a Christian fails to tell another that the person needs to give their life to Christ or else..... then the blood is on that Christian hands. But if the Christian does tells a person and that person refused to accept Christ in their life then that person has their own blood in their hands.