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Chart News: 'Shakira' is DIAMOND: +Sources!
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Mess at some people coming for her sales nonetheless. I wish Britney Jean was selling 200K anywhere in South America.
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Originally posted by Charls
Sis... oh please... You did all that to prove your point? keep trying...
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The OP claimed Mediatraffic does not count sales/certifications from Mexico, Brazil and Colombia when they actually do, as stated in their About Us section. I just simply corrected him. Is that too complex for you to understand?
Also, would anyone mind to link us to the Brazil's supposed 2x platinum certification, since the official site does not show a certification for Shakira's material since 2009, thanks. Also, what exactly is the source for those 200K in Colombia, the official association does not even have an official webpage. This thread is inaccurate and it's showing false stats with no source, it should be closed as stated in ATRL's rules.
Never change Shakifans, you're awesome and very entertaining.
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Member Since: 6/3/2006
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Originally posted by Rolland
Nice try but they count those countries too.
Her albums is a massive underperformance/flop no matter how hard her stans try to make it look the other way around, sorry.
Edit: Lmao at her stans not having an official source for those supposed 200K in Colombia, can't say I'm surprised.
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Just to start: I am from Portugal and they say they 'count' its sales yet that chart isn't even updated in ages.
Edit: The Brazilian site is not even updated either. As for Colombia they don't even provide the source.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by I am your light
Mess!
I love JLO but come on, it's kinda funny to see JLOVERS trying to shade other pop girls sales
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Member Since: 9/3/2010
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Originally posted by Pedro
Just to start: I am from Portugal and they say they 'count' its sales yet that chart isn't even updated in ages.
Edit: The Brazilian site is not even updated either. As for Colombia they don't even provide the source.
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So from where are you getting that 2x platinum in Brazil, a blurry capture from a music store cheap billboard or magazine (can't say for sure what it is) as well? You don't want to believe in what Mediatraffic says yet you base your numbers in some cheap capture that is nowhere else to be found?
Yes, it makes total sense. That's exactly what I said: never change!
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SOURCE
BRAZIL
SOURCE
(not sure about this one but I am pretty sure she sold something like that)
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Originally posted by Rolland
So from where are you getting that 2x platinum in Brazil, a blurry capture from a music store cheap billboard or magazine (can't say for sure what it is) as well? You don't want to believe in what Mediatraffic says yet you base your numbers in some cheap capture that is nowhere else to be found?
Yes, it makes total sense. That's exactly what I said: never change!
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Omg, you really have time to spend at weekends to drag some artists down?
First, The Brazilian "offcial site" is not really seriously updated since Adeles 21.
Ok, that being said, it's simple, In Brazil the sales you can see the round of shipments in its own cds:
So far in Brazil there's:
AA 50,000 copies (Deluxe edition)
AB 30,000 copies (Standart + Deluxe)
This info is at the back of every album sold in Brazil, also in Latin america almost every album sold has this... and where else do you need more info to prove Shakira. Isn't selling than the album info itself?
Talking about Brazil sales, because I understand a bit more than the other countries... It's simple to understand, I'm not saying it's doing GREAT THE ALBUM, I'm just trying to say that is not that under performing that low as you want people to believe it.
Wish I the album was selling millions, but it's not... Btw, it's almost ok so far
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Originally posted by DG1
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As for Portugal I still doubt they have access to real numbers. They never really reveal it, they just put up certifications. I didn't even know she debuted at #6 here until now (if that's reliable!)
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Member Since: 10/29/2010
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Originally posted by Pedro
As for Portugal I still doubt they have access to real numbers. They never really reveal it, they just put up certifications. I didn't even know she debuted at #6 here until now (if that's reliable!)
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Yea, it's difficult to really know in countries like Portugal or South American countries where weekly sales aren't made readily available to the public. But this is what they say about that:
"The charts from countries without sales stats are weighted to the size of its markets according to the latest IFPI-statistics (exception: albums with huge sales in these countries are weighted higher). Albums which placed in most or all of our monitoring countries, get additional sales for countries which haven't an official charts like Russia, China, India, Turkey etc."
So basically it's a guesstimate, it's made up.
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Originally posted by DG1
Yea, it's difficult to really know in countries like Portugal or South American countries where weekly sales aren't made readily available to the public. But this is what they say about that:
"The charts from countries without sales stats are weighted to the size of its markets according to the latest IFPI-statistics (exception: albums with huge sales in these countries are weighted higher). Albums which placed in most or all of our monitoring countries, get additional sales for countries which haven't an official charts like Russia, China, India, Turkey etc."
So basically it's a guesstimate, it's made up.
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Yeah, I haven't found MediaTraffic accurate since Sale El Sol came out and now it only gives me more reasons to not believe it.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Pedro
And you'll keep being ignorant and delusional. In the last 5 years her succss has been crazy: Waka Waka was a MAJOR hit, Loca as well, Rabiosa was a hit, Je L'Aime a Mourir became a smash in France (allowing her album to go DIAMOND there), even Addicted To You smashed in some European countries like Poland, so please stay mad and get your facts straight.
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thank you for your kind words! shows that you do not have class At All
anyway...all the songs you mentioned were hits...i never denied it...but as i said they were not huge International hits like Hips, which sold 10 million, was Number 1 @ billboard Hot 100 (her only one) and @ 54 more countries... waka just sold 4 million ww and loca 5 million... both
international hits but nothing huge... i know the facts since i am a Shakira fan since 2000 (i have all her cd's, all the cd singles, all the dvd's-blu ray's and i was front row in the Oral Fixation tour), but i am a fan of the truth too...
i really hope DARE will save the current situation
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My (home) country better STAN
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Originally posted by SeanET
thank you for your kind words! shows that you do not have class At All
anyway...all the songs you mentioned were hits...i never denied it...but as i said they were not huge International hits like Hips, which sold 10 million, was Number 1 @ billboard Hot 100 (her only one) and @ 54 more countries... waka just sold 4 million ww and loca 5 million... both
international hits but nothing huge... i know the facts since i am a Shakira fan since 2000 (i have all her cd's, all the cd singles, all the dvd's-blu ray's and i was front row in the Oral Fixation tour), but i am a fan of the truth too...
i really hope DARE will save the current situation
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You know me really well to know if I have class or not, indeed. Hips Don't Lie or Whenever Wherever are at a really high level such as Toxic by Britney, Bad Romance by Gaga, Single Ladies by Beyoncé.
Going by your logic then no one has had that many hits lately, especially Pop Girls.
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The fact that you guys believe she sold 200.000 in Colombia in less than a month. those might be shipments, because no one is here for her this era, but whatever that makes you sleep at night, guys.
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Member Since: 9/16/2011
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Originally posted by Pedro
The receipts says 'sales'.
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Ofc says sales.. all sources always says sales,even singer's official web sites. Nobody talk about shipments.. Thats the normal..
anyway this really good congrats..
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by alfonso12
The fact that you guys believe she sold 200.000 in Colombia in less than a month. those might be shipments, because no one is here for her this era, but whatever that makes you sleep at night, guys.
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CRTFY/NMADO peaked at #4 and is still #50 on iTunes, while the album is still comfortably sitting at #1 on iTunes + other version at #267. But yes, i guess no one was there for her in Colombia
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Originally posted by Pedro
You know me really well to know if I have class or not, indeed. Hips Don't Lie or Whenever Wherever are at a really high level such as Toxic by Britney, Bad Romance by Gaga, Single Ladies by Beyoncé.
Going by your logic then no one has had that many hits lately, especially Pop Girls.
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Roar, to name one
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Originally posted by alfonso12
The fact that you guys believe she sold 200.000 in Colombia in less than a month. those might be shipments, because no one is here for her this era, but whatever that makes you sleep at night, guys.
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THIS
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Originally posted by alestevens
CRTFY/NMADO peaked at #4 and is still #50 on iTunes, while the album is still comfortably sitting at #1 on iTunes + other version at #267. But yes, i guess no one was there for her in Colombia
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And she was just there to open one more school from her foundation. If she did that in my country, I am sure her sales would explode.
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Originally posted by SeanET
Roar, to name one
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Roar is at Waka Waka level tbh. I mean maybe I sound ridiculous to someone who is american (don't even know if you are american) but in my country Waka Waka was such a mega hit, y'all have no idea. And I'm sure it was everywhere else as well.
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