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Celeb News: Russell Tovey on effeminate gays
Member Since: 3/25/2012
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The sexism. And he does look like a Diplo and Dumbo crossbreed
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
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Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with what he said.
That's how he feels about himself so, hey! You guys get offended by anything on here.
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Member Since: 11/10/2009
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A mess. Glad I haven't bothered to catch up on Looking.
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Member Since: 11/10/2009
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Originally posted by NLX
Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with what he said.
That's how he feels about himself so, hey! You guys get offended by anything on here.
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It's not about him, he said femininity is something that gays need to be saved from. So much wrong with that.
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Member Since: 11/22/2010
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He may have phrased his thoughts in a non-PC way but there's nothing wrong with what he said. The bigger issue lies with the people using the term "straight acting".
Gays are not monolithic. So when you try to paint one as all (as society and the media tend to do with popular representations), many try to distance themselves from it. Not every gay male is into cross dressing, being über effeminate, fashion, etc.
Some gays are into sports, like being bros and other things that many of you paint as "straight acting". Why is that an issue? Some of you act like because some can, and I'm gonna use really non-PC terminology, "pass" as "straight" because they don't act/sound like Kurt from Glee or any one of the token gays on Bravo, that somehow there's a degree of self-loathing homophibia. There's not.
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Member Since: 11/10/2009
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Originally posted by Ryan
He may have phrased his thoughts in a non-PC way but there's nothing wrong with what he said. The bigger issue lies with the people using the term "straight acting".
Gays are not monolithic. So when you try to paint one as all (as society and the media tend to do with popular representations), many try to distance themselves from it. Not every gay male is into cross dressing, being über effeminate, fashion, etc.
Some gays are into sports, like being bros and other things that many of you paint as "straight acting". Why is that an issue? Some of you act like because some can, and I'm gonna use really non-PC terminology, "pass" as "straight" because they don't act/sound like Kurt from Glee or any one of the token gays on Bravo, that somehow there's a degree of self-loathing homophibia. There's not.
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It's not internal homophobia unless you say/believe femininity is bad, like this fool did.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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He still likes a big **** just as much as the effeminate gays tho so
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by NLX
Yeah, I don't see what's wrong with what he said.
That's how he feels about himself so, hey! You guys get offended by anything on here.
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The thing is that's kitchen table talk, you're not supposed to say that in public, 'cause it seems like he's saying being effeminate is bad.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Homosexuality is a lifestyle, it's a choice, it's a freedom of expression
You have to live it, you have to love it and you have to breathe it
Life's all about #embracing the queer within, coming in full circle
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Ryan
He may have phrased his thoughts in a non-PC way but there's nothing wrong with what he said. The bigger issue lies with the people using the term "straight acting".
Gays are not monolithic. So when you try to paint one as all (as society and the media tend to do with popular representations), many try to distance themselves from it. Not every gay male is into cross dressing, being über effeminate, fashion, etc.
Some gays are into sports, like being bros and other things that many of you paint as "straight acting". Why is that an issue? Some of you act like because some can, and I'm gonna use really non-PC terminology, "pass" as "straight" because they don't act/sound like Kurt from Glee or any one of the token gays on Bravo, that somehow there's a degree of self-loathing homophibia. There's not.
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Couldn't have said it any better.
Russell remains superior
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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He's not masculine.
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Originally posted by ReginaPhalange
not with those dumbo ears
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Heisenberg
I usually find over the top effeminate "stereotypical" gay guys to be extremely irritating and I am not attracted to them at all. I also find girls who act in a similar way to be just as annoying. I respect that some gay guys are this way, and I applaud them for being who they are. I, however, choose not to associate myself with them and am uncomfortable around them. That's just who I am.
I don't think there is anything wrong with that. However, I do think it is terrible that Russell makes it sound like parents should prevent their children from being who they are.
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Also this.
I don't understand how a gay person can be homophobic.
It's sort of like in the straight world, the popular "jocks" wouldn't associate themselves with the nerds or whatever. So, whatever I guess.
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Member Since: 4/5/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ryan
He may have phrased his thoughts in a non-PC way but there's nothing wrong with what he said. The bigger issue lies with the people using the term "straight acting".
Gays are not monolithic. So when you try to paint one as all (as society and the media tend to do with popular representations), many try to distance themselves from it. Not every gay male is into cross dressing, being über effeminate, fashion, etc.
Some gays are into sports, like being bros and other things that many of you paint as "straight acting". Why is that an issue? Some of you act like because some can, and I'm gonna use really non-PC terminology, "pass" as "straight" because they don't act/sound like Kurt from Glee or any one of the token gays on Bravo, that somehow there's a degree of self-loathing homophibia. There's not.
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Member Since: 2/4/2014
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No one is saying all gay men are the same. People are calling him out for his comment implying that being feminine is a negative and saying that he thankfully didn't turn out that way as if it's a bad thing... or so he claims.
And like Eternium said, he is not masculine. Masculine gay men are not likely to desperately try to disassociate themselves from feminine gay men. It's usually self loathing feminine types who pretend going to the gym makes them butch and only use their sassy black woman terminology online.
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Originally posted by monsterLd
I don't understand how a gay person can be homophobic.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by nd01
I'm personally not gay, but why does it seem like gay MEN are always trying to prove themselves to be masculine? Like if you're trying to appeal to straight men who are homophobes, forget it, if they hate gays, theyll hate you. And guess what, it doesn't matter. Live your truth and if that's being feminine, be feminine, if that's being masculine, be masculine. But don't put down other gays who are feminine, you aren't helping merge gay and straight culture, you're telling all gays that they need to be like straight people to be "normal" that's ********! Be you and **** everyone who says otherwise because you are special.
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And people need to stop putting down fem gays if people think not acting gay or whatever is gonna help homophobia youre seriously
delusional.
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
There's nothing wrong with a gay man disliking effeminate/flamboyant gays and not wanting to be associated with them.
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I'm billing every single one of you for my migraine medication. Jesus Christ. *sigh*
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Originally posted by nd01
I'm personally not gay, but why does it seem like gay MEN are always trying to prove themselves to be masculine? Like if you're trying to appeal to straight men who are homophobes, forget it, if they hate gays, theyll hate you. And guess what, it doesn't matter. Live your truth and if that's being feminine, be feminine, if that's being masculine, be masculine. But don't put down other gays who are feminine, you aren't helping merge gay and straight culture, you're telling all gays that they need to be like straight people to be "normal" that's ********! Be you and **** everyone who says otherwise because you are special.
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I totally agree. This is such a big issue in the gay community.
It is sad how this kind of thinking so prevalent. It is just another way to label someone and dehumanize them. I feel like those men are in denial of themselves and are trying to be the quote on quote "man" that society tells them to be. They can try and be as "masculine" as they want but deep down I think they know it is an act.
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Member Since: 5/17/2009
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Member Since: 5/17/2009
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ryan
He may have phrased his thoughts in a non-PC way but there's nothing wrong with what he said. The bigger issue lies with the people using the term "straight acting".
Gays are not monolithic. So when you try to paint one as all (as society and the media tend to do with popular representations), many try to distance themselves from it. Not every gay male is into cross dressing, being über effeminate, fashion, etc.
Some gays are into sports, like being bros and other things that many of you paint as "straight acting". Why is that an issue? Some of you act like because some can, and I'm gonna use really non-PC terminology, "pass" as "straight" because they don't act/sound like Kurt from Glee or any one of the token gays on Bravo, that somehow there's a degree of self-loathing homophibia. There's not.
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Preach
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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The good about this thread is it makes it clear who on this site is absolute moron and not worth the typing, and who actually has reading comprehension skills.
Because I've yet to see one of the morons co-signing him address the blatant misogyny which is one of the bigger issues of what he said, not the "I'm masculine" part. Because the truth is, yall like to think you care about women cuz you stan for a pop girl, but yall don't give a damn about misogyny or the notion that being "feminine" being percieved as lesser. You know damn well that's what his statements are implying if you actually. read. it. and didn't just automatically jump to defending yourself with your "Stop hating on masculine gays! We're not all fruits who like fashion, prances around, bs bs bs."
At the end of the day, you're still a gay man on a pop music forum where you stan for a strong female figure and talk about music, fashion, drama, gay sex, hot guys, etc etc. All of which make the actual 100% macho, "no femmes allowed around me" type men, that you claimed to be so badly, absolutely cringe.
The end. That's the moral of the story. I'm done. Peace sistren.
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