[Optimus]

Originally posted by Samuel

Not 6 years into her career, she didn't.

Didnt Madonna's first album sell more than10M and her second 20M? yes she did have. And as you can see your fellow kat compared katy to Madonna, which is wrong.

[RoarRiteNow1]

Originally posted by karron0624

Except no one is even coming for the Kats. The Kats are starting flaimbait threads and then are trying to play defensive when their own artist is only able to beat Gaga and none of the other major pop acts.

That's because the monsters are the only ones that keep coming for Katy

[hairofglory]

Originally posted by karron0624

OOTB is her artistic peak.

TD is her selling peak.

IDK about Prisim or why it is called a peak. I thought it was an under performance compared to TD. But apparently, TD numbers constitute dominating the industry.

How is OOTB her artistic peak when it has her lowest Metacritic score?

Roar and DH were huge, her tour is doing better than her last one, she has more starpower, etc. Her career hasn't showed signs of decline, so while maybe she hasn't increased too much, she hasn't declined. So at the very least, she's still in her peak.

[Eric.]

Originally posted by RoarRiteNow1

They still try to come for Katy now though

So? The weak ends on both sides haven't stopped since 2009, if "they started first" is the only excuse used to keep this thing going then by all means continue.

[Mikeymoonshine]

I don't get why the Kat's are laughing, nobody expected Gaga to rank that high. How the hell did she earn 33m when her album flopped and she hadn't toured or really had any endorsements?

[Samuel]

Originally posted by Optimus

Didnt Madonna's first album sell more than10M and her second 20M? yes she did have. And as you can see your fellow kat compared katy to Madonna, which is wrong.

Now it has, but obviously not at the time

[katysuxx]

I'm here like

[Mikeymoonshine]

This actually makes me feel more positive about next year. Artraves gross will push her back up the list, even if it doesn't do half as well as her last tour she will still make allot from it.

[Darkroth]

Why do people think the success of a single make one artistic? Like, Blurred Lines became a hit, but it was a song that justifies rape. Or "Wiggle" that objectifies women. Don't put your trust on the GP, because the GP are a bunch of disgusting mess sometimes. If people want to compare, let's compare the overall total of the abilities of both. Lyrically, musically, vocally, artistically, then we can finally come to a middle ground, in a result. Success ≠ Legacy