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News: Daughter of Two Moms Comes Out Against Gay Marriage: Update
Member Since: 10/12/2010
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Originally posted by Kali.
She missed a father figure in her life, not her ****** dad. Maybe she wouldn't have that void if her mother re-married a man.
As for the second part.. well, I prefer having two parents  |
LMAO, are you stupid or what dude?
The father ****ing abandoned her, what kind of father/parent does that to the child that he/she made with love?
And no, to answer your dumb ass question, she'd still feel that void because then she'd be nagging about the fact that the stepfather wasn't her real father that she used to know.
People like this woman are ungrateful and will always be.
I'm not even gonna reply to your second sentence considering how insulting it is.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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This dumbass needs some counseling, it's not your two moms fault that you have daddy issues.
I would rather be with a single parent who loves me let alone two loving parents.
And that counterargument about needing two opposite genders in the home is such ****.
Plenty of kids are raised right in single and same sex parent homes and don't feel a hole in their lives.
She is just looking for attention and needs to seek help for her issues.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 7,726
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Originally posted by HOD
Oh child, PLEASE.
You obviously care enough to reply, you're wrong and I'm not the only one saying it, end.
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Lol. Because that obviously takes a whole lot of my time huh? It's not my fault you can't have a rational debate with someone that shares different views than you, without getting offensive. Have a good day though.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by HOD
LMAO, are you stupid or what dude?
The father ****ing abandoned her, what kind of father/parent does that to the child that he/she made with love?
And no, to answer your dumb ass question, she'd still feel that void because then she'd be nagging about the fact that the stepfather wasn't her real father that she used to know.
People like this woman are ungrateful and will always be.
I'm not even gonna reply to your second sentence considering how insulting it is.
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You need to calm down or just not have a discussion if you can't do it without acting uncivilized.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
I never once typed in this thread: same sex children feel a void. I never stated it as fact and you can go back and check all my comment.
I did make a mistake though. I said they've written letters to the Supreme Court (some probably did), but the letters I was thinking of were written to the 5th Judicial Court of Appeal.
You can read them here:
http://www.apa.org/about/offices/ogc/amicus/deleon.pdf |
You didn't word it exactly like that but you said something similar in your posts.
For example:
"I do honestly think that a girl growing up with two dads, might miss out on having a mom. Especially if her close friends and family do have moms. I couldn't imagine imagine not having a mom. A dad just isn't the same. "
"Some say gay parents want to fill in the void of having a child.. Ever think that maybe the children also feel voids that need to be filled? Unlike in a single parent case where there's no other choice. Same sex couples knowingly make the choice to deny the child something."
And what you posted...
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There Is No Scientific Basis for Concluding That Same-Sex
Couples Are Any Less Fit or Capable Parents Than
Heterosexual Couples, or That Their Children Are Any Less
Psychologically Healthy and Well Adjusted.
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Am I missing something or...? 
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Member Since: 10/12/2010
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
Lol. Because that obviously takes a whole lot of my time huh? It's not my fault you can't have a rational debate with someone that shares different views than you, without getting offensive. Have a good day though.
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I wouldn't say that 'your views' are exactly right considering it's you and that other person alone here trying to defend them.
Literally everybody else's telling you that you're wrong, which you are, same goes for that other person.
Bye though, have a nice life with those views. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
That's not the same thing at all. 
A void is created by something being there and then not being there. Wanting a child to fill a void is unhealthy. People like this aren't even supposed have kids. 
Wanting a child is different than having a child to fill a void, sorry. |
Where did you get that definition of the word from? A child that loses his father as a baby, can grow up feeling a void without actually having experienced having that father around.
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Nothing wrong with what she said. It's not homophobic in the slightest, just her point of view from personal experience.
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Member Since: 10/12/2010
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Originally posted by Kali.
You need to calm down or just not have a discussion if you can't do it without acting civilized.
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Honey, I'm out of this thread because you obv. don't know what civilized behavior means if I look at your posts.
It's 2015, WAKE UP, that's all I'll have to say to you.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by HOD
I wouldn't say that 'your views' are exactly right considering it's you and that other person alone here trying to defend them.
Literally everybody else's telling you that you're wrong, which you are, same goes for that other person.
Bye though, have a nice life with those views. |
I might very well be wrong and I am open to someone offering things that causes me to change my mind. Plenty of people have changed their minds about gays, gay marriage etc; something noticeable in the polls conducted in the USA.
It's people like you that are vulgar, rude and offensive, that contribute NOTHING. I'd rather be wrong and cause someone who is right to perfect their arguments that support their views, than to offend them with baseless useless commentary.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Then why doesn't she oppose same-sex ADOPTION?? Couples can marry without having children.
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Member Since: 3/16/2012
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She's against same-sex marriage, but has NO substantial arguments to support her position other than "my father abandoned me, but that's totally my loving and supportive moms' fault."
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Member Since: 3/14/2013
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I should point out that fathers and mothers are NOT the only male/female figures in a person's life. So what this woman is saying is really just about her daddy issues more than anything. You don't need both genders to be a happy adjusted individual. All children need is two loving parents in a stable home.
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
Where did you get that definition of the word from? A child that loses his father as a baby, can grow up feeling a void without actually having experienced having that father around.
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First of all, you just gave an example of my definition. 
Second, the baby can also grow up and not feel any void at all.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
You didn't word it exactly like that but you said something similar in your posts.
For example:
"I do honestly think that a girl growing up with two dads, might miss out on having a mom. Especially if her close friends and family do have moms. I couldn't imagine imagine not having a mom. A dad just isn't the same. "
"Some say gay parents want to fill in the void of having a child.. Ever think that maybe the children also feel voids that need to be filled? Unlike in a single parent case where there's no other choice. Same sex couples knowingly make the choice to deny the child something."
And what you posted...
Am I missing something or...? |
Deny something: deny a father or a mother. I mean, that's just fact. If you choose to raise a child with two moms, you're denying him or her a father.
And for the rest: I used "think, maybe, might". I never stated anything as fact. Because I do not know what they feel for sure.
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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If you're against same-sex couples raising kids, you better get used to it. Society will eventually accept homosexuals, because we are NEVER going away. Homosexuality has always existed, and we live in times in which reason is slowly being used as the basis of laws and rules, instead of religion or what some random Jenny says on a forum (not to generalize, but experience has told me that the majority of "outspoken" people against same-sex couples raising kids are straight women)
This is really no different than when Asians and Native Americans weren't allowed to marry US citizens because inter-racial couples were considered criminals, or when polygamous marriages in which a man would have countless wives were OKAY. It wasn't until 1967 that inter-racial marriage was allowed (less than 50 years ago). Equality always wins. If you have an issue with same-sex couples, you better buckle up and update your archaic views on what truly defines marriage and family.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
First of all, you just gave an example of my definition.
Second, the baby can also grow up and not feel any void at all. |
But it very well might, can it not?
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Member Since: 10/12/2010
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
I might very well be wrong and I am open to someone offering things that causes me to change my mind. Plenty of people have changed their minds about gays, gay marriage etc; something noticeable in the polls conducted in the USA.
It's people like you that are vulgar, rude and offensive, that contribute NOTHING. I'd rather be wrong and cause someone who is right to perfect their arguments that support their views, than to offend them with baseless useless commentary.
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Ugh, maybe you should've read my first few comments to you before you started acting like a damn child.
Those were me trying to explain to you what other factors could play into this problem but you wanted me to act like you were the smartest thing alive and do it all proper.
The truth is I won't treat you with the same respect that a normal person would get after your comments because they were offensive.
That's also why you're ridiculous and a serious joke for saying that I am rude and offensive, especially on a site with a whole bunch LGBT people.
Now, for real, goodbye, I wish you lots of luck, God knows you'll need it.
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Shouldn't she be against divorce then, not same-sex marriage?
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
Deny something: deny a father or a mother. I mean, that's just fact. If you choose to raise a child with two moms, you're denying him or her a father.
And for the rest: I used "think, maybe, might". I never stated anything as fact. Because I do not know what they feel for sure.
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Alright, you didn't state it as fact. I'll give you that.
But children of gay parents aren't being denied anything. All fathers aren't great and all mothers aren't great. They have two loving fathers or two loving mothers. Just because they weren't raised by a mother and a father doesn't mean they can't have mother figures or father figures in their life if they need one, nor does it mean they are at a disadvantage.
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
But it very well might, can it not?
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And it very well might not. Hypothetical situations work both ways.
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