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News: Mike Brown case: No indictment
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
I am CAMPAIGNING for you to be banned.
You are the living reason there can never be progress in this country.
You will be PERMANENTLY BANNED by year's end. Please understand this. Get your racism out now!
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Has someone already mentioned this?
iStanGaga saying "social media" doesn't count as eye witnesses yet a racist person does.
This reminds of that time when cops shot 46 times a mentally ill black homeless person because he was carrying a knife.
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Member Since: 12/10/2011
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Originally posted by KingSebert
...that was AFTER he tried to take a gun away from an officer. At that point officer Wilson didn't know how dangerous he was and him fleeing made him a criminal at large. Did he have the right to shoot him? Yes. Did he have to shoot him 6 times? No.
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Yet there are multiple eye witnesses who said he fled AND SURRENDERED. Darren Wilson's actions were not self defense. What don't you get? It was not justifiable by any means. It was overkill. BY LAW you cannot do that. The fact that this case isn't even going to trial is a miscarriage of justice, period. From the DA's conflict of interest, the ever changing stories, and the physical evidence being blatantly ignored. Ferguson has a racist, corrupt system. Best believe 100% this case would've gone to trial in any other state.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Yet there are multiple eye witnesses who said he fled AND SURRENDERED. Darren Wilson's actions were not self defense. What don't you get? It was not justifiable by any means. It was overkill. BY LAW you cannot do that. The fact that this case isn't even going to trial is a miscarriage of justice, period. From the DA's conflict of interest, the ever changing stories, and the physical evidence being blatantly ignored. Ferguson has a racist, corrupt system. Best believe 100% this case would've gone to trial in any other state.
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Like Goosey already posted, there is a law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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That guy who got thrown in the back of the car showed up dead today I think that's the first casualty.
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Member Since: 5/2/2012
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Originally posted by KingSebert
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Under U.S. law the fleeing felon rule was limited in 1985 to non-lethal force in most cases by Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1. The justices held that deadly force "may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others."
Do you honestly believe a man who had no weapon, began to flee and then stopped running and turned with his hands raised and exposed with no weapons of any kind to face the police officer fits these parameters and warranted two bullets in the head?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Ascension
Under U.S. law the fleeing felon rule was limited in 1985 to non-lethal force in most cases by Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1. The justices held that deadly force "may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others."
Do you honestly believe a man who had no weapon, began to flee and then stopped running and turned with his hands raised and exposed with no weapons of any kind to face the police officer fits these parameters and warranted two bullets in the head?
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Like I already said:
Did he have the right to shoot? YES. Did he have to shoot him SIX times? NO.
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"Look at these thugs giving a bad name to white people, when will they learn?".
Said no one ever.
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
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Originally posted by KingSebert
Um yes
Like I said, the officer had no idea how dangerous he was.
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Jesus.. You're a ****ing idiot. Go play in traffic.
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by Luzianne
He robbed the store, yes. But most cops in this nation (regardless of Race) have this preconceived notion of Black males, and black people in general. Don Lemon once said he was pulled over for driving a nice car. It was his mother's car, but the police still assumed he was guilty until they called her and confirmed it was indeed hers. That wouldn't happen to anyone here other than a black person. It's the same reason Zimmerman stalked Trayvon Martin, assuming that he didn't belong in the fancy neighborhood and was up to no good.
You have some misfits here and there. But police and people in general ALWAYS vilify black people like this. Henry Louis Gates was arrested for trying to get into his own house (he had locked himself out). It's sad that even someone that accomplished can STILL be subject to being vilified. When you know darn well you are doing right in your life, but that shadow is still cast upon you, it's a very awkward and annoying feeling. Anyone, regardless of race, would dislike being blamed for something they didn't do. This case is a sensation. But this happens almost DAILY in the USA. I don't have receipts. As a black person living in a perpetual state of fear, I really don't need them. All I have to do is cross paths with a police man.
Also, 6 shots to anyone RUNNING AWAY wounded is OVERKILL, regardless of how anyone spins it.
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Member Since: 5/2/2012
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Originally posted by KingSebert
Like I already said:
Did he have the right to shoot? YES. Did he have to shoot him SIX times? NO.
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A significant threat of death or serious bodily harm...yet, when they made physical contact Michael only managed this BEFORE being hit by multiple bullets:
...and so now the same guy, AFTER being shot already, was known not to be armed and was now at a reasonable distance from the officer gave that officer just reason for deadly force? If you believe he "didn't have to" that's a no. Deadly force should be used in an instance when there is NO other option to prevent death/SERIOUS physical injury of civilians or an officer.
In his sworn court testimony, Darren Wilson's excuse for initially shooting Michael was that he was protecting his face with his left hand and did not want to sacrifice that blocking hand to reach for mace or his taser holstered on the left side. OK, I'll give him that, but at this point it's well established that Michael has no weapons and once shot, he began to flee and Wilson kept shooting. Once Michael was far enough away from him, he had other options to then incapacitate him if he felt there was a need once Michael stopped running when he did not stop firing shots.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by katyperryismylife
Those Air Jordans
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What are Jordans? They're all gone.
This is making the stereotype even worse.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Drama
I don't know who I'm more upset at right now.
Obama who clearly knew the verdict of the case( you think they just spontaneously assemble a meeting to address the nation) and won't try to bring this to higher courts because honestly he just doesn't care. He consigned with their decision so this case is as good as over.
Or you for having the nerve to type out such a ignorant statement thinking I would ever think the president would encourage looting. Go get your Ki ki's elsewhere. He's not trying to fix the problem, he just wants people to stop being angry over injustices & inequalities that he claims he's fixing. Bye Felicia.
Anyway, back to my paper.
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He was going to address the nation either outcome.
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I knew this would of been the outcome after finding out 7 of the jury members were white with only 3 black.
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Originally posted by xclusivestylesz
I knew this would of been the outcome after finding out 7 of the jury members were white with only 3 black.
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it's not like people automatically vote for their race.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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http://fox8.com/2014/11/25/never-bef...jury-decision/
I'm sorry but whether you're black, white, asian, etc. when a cop tells you to get on the ground, JUST DO IT. Whether your guilty or not, JUST DO IT. The details will be sorted out later.
It's not law enforcement that's the problem here, it's the lack of respect for law enforcement.
The decision is the right decision.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by xclusivestylesz
I knew this would of been the outcome after finding out 7 of the jury members were white with only 3 black.
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give it over, when you go for a cops gun you only have one intent.
he also robbed that store, he was a thug nothing more
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by DivaDown
http://fox8.com/2014/11/25/never-bef...jury-decision/
I'm sorry but whether you're black, white, asian, etc. when a cop tells you to get on the ground, JUST DO IT. Whether your guilty or not, JUST DO IT. The details will be sorted out later.
It's not law enforcement that's the problem here, it's the lack of respect for law enforcement.
The decision is the right decision.
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I'm sorry but if he wasn't black, nobody would be talking about it.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by DivaDown
http://fox8.com/2014/11/25/never-bef...jury-decision/
I'm sorry but whether you're black, white, asian, etc. when a cop tells you to get on the ground, JUST DO IT. Whether your guilty or not, JUST DO IT. The details will be sorted out later.
It's not law enforcement that's the problem here, it's the lack of respect for law enforcement.
The decision is the right decision.
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Disrespecting authority does not justify the use of deadly force. And the "details will be sorted out later" is not always what happens.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by T0M
I'm sorry but if he wasn't black, nobody would be talking about it.
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Duh. That's the point.
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