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News: 11 officers shot at Dallas protest, 5 fatalities so far
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Originally posted by L.B GAGA
Can't believe you stan for Gaga. ![Hoetenks](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/717164946_zps062edc97.png)
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Yes and to quote my beautiful fave, people will no longer side step the consequences of what they choose to say online. Her prophecy is coming true
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Originally posted by Callisto.
I was being sarcastic. ![deadbanana](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/bananas/deadbanana2_zpsd45da7d4.gif)
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Callisto.
I was being sarcastic. ![deadbanana](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/bananas/deadbanana2_zpsd45da7d4.gif)
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i wasn't, and im agreeing w/ u; white people like myself don't have the right or place to tell POC how to feel about racism ,all that i feel that it is my place to do is stand back, observe, be there for my black latino asian muslim middle eastern trans etc brothers / sisters in their time of need, and most importantly try to guide the misguided crackers to a better, more colorful place .... and fight where / when it counts
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When I talked to some BLM girl, I asked her how many black lives were lost to the hands of the police in a year according to her, she answered 'I don't know, probably a few thousand' (real number is about 300).
That's how detached some of these people are compared to reality. Yes, too many black lives are lost at the hands of the police, some of them for nothing. But once again, 26% of police victims are black people when 38% of people convicted for criminal activities are black.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
When I talked to some BLM girl, I asked her how many black lives were lost to the hands of the police in a year according to her, she answered 'I don't know, probably a few thousand' (real number is about 300).
That's how detached some of these people are compared to reality. Yes, too many black lives are lost at the hands of the police, some of them for nothing. But once again, 26% of police victims are black people when 38% of people convicted for criminal activities are black.
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not you subconsciously dragging a random activist somewhere out there in the world ![rip](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRLSmilies/rip_zpsec10ede9.gif)
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
But once again, 26% of police victims are black people when 38% of people convicted for criminal activities are black.
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Uh, so? How are those figures related. The police aren't only shooting and killing those engaging in criminal activity. The two causing an uproar as of late involved victims who were completely innocent.
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You guys do not understand the depth of corruption in police departments. Did you know there are ticket and arrest quotas? Officers have quotas to fill on how many people they ticket and arrest. They are called department target goals. What do you think will happen when police are instructed to make money and ticket and arrest as much people as possible to fill department quotas?.. Well, certain people (neighborhoods) will disproportionately get fined and arrested.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
When I talked to some BLM girl, I asked her how many black lives were lost to the hands of the police in a year according to her, she answered 'I don't know, probably a few thousand' (real number is about 300).
That's how detached some of these people are compared to reality. Yes, too many black lives are lost at the hands of the police, some of them for nothing. But once again, 26% of police victims are black people when 38% of people convicted for criminal activities are black.
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the issue is police brutality, and that black people are more likely to be literally harassed (to death, in the most unfortunate of cases) by white officers than white people are. they are affected disproportionately. they die more often in police custody than white people do.
FOH tryna boil it down into a simple statistic or percentage when racism is something that runs so much deeper and stronger than what is recorded (and recorded by the ****ing people committing the crimes, btw)
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Originally posted by hairofglory
Yes and to quote my beautiful fave, people will no longer side step the consequences of what they choose to say online. Her prophecy is coming true
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Poor Gaga, your a mess. Hope you read your statement and refer to your, special treatment statement. I hope you also support the(( LGBT's want special treatment for wanting anti discrimination laws to include LGBT's .)) Hey they aren't special ![;)](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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I'm kinda surprised that this thread is still open to be honest. Threads about race issues don't last very long on ATRL.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
When I talked to some BLM girl, I asked her how many black lives were lost to the hands of the police in a year according to her, she answered 'I don't know, probably a few thousand' (real number is about 300).
That's how detached some of these people are compared to reality. Yes, too many black lives are lost at the hands of the police, some of them for nothing. But once again, 26% of police victims are black people when 38% of people convicted for criminal activities are black.
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Thank God you used the word convicted,which opens up another issue of how the justice system is skewed against blacks.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
When I talked to some BLM girl, I asked her how many black lives were lost to the hands of the police in a year according to her, she answered 'I don't know, probably a few thousand' (real number is about 300).
That's how detached some of these people are compared to reality. Yes, too many black lives are lost at the hands of the police, some of them for nothing. But once again, 26% of police victims are black people when 38% of people convicted for criminal activities are black.
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Half of the prison population are minorities. You saying these figures are actually bad when you realize that minorities make up a way smaller percentage of the country as a whole.
For example, 20% of the white population and 20% of the black population aren't the same when there are way more whites than blacks. Minorities are disproportionally targeted. These are facts.
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Originally posted by qurl
the issue is police brutality, and that black people are more likely to be literally harassed (to death, in the most unfortunate of cases) by white officers than white people are. they are affected disproportionately. they die more often in police custody than white people do.
FOH tryna boil it down into a simple statistic or percentage when racism is something that runs so much deeper and stronger than what is recorded (and recorded by the ****ing people committing the crimes, btw)
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That's only half of the truth though :
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Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed by a study conducted by the University of Pennsylvania criminologist Gary Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene.
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Originally posted by slimsexy
Thank God you used the word convicted,which opens up another issue of how the justice system is skewed against blacks.
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It's actually the percentage of people imprisoned. I do think legal aid needs to be developed far more than it currently is so that people who don't have the money (and blacks are disproportionately affected here) can still have access to a fair defense.
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Half of the prison population are minorities. You saying these figures are actually bad when you realize that minorities make up a way smaller percentage of the country as a whole.
For example, 20% of the white population and 20% of the black population aren't the same when there are way more whites than blacks. Minorities are disproportionally targeted. These are facts.
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Yes. But must the prison population absolutely reflect society as a whole in order not to be racist ? I'm not sure. The vast majority of people in prison are men and I don't think that makes prison a sexist institution. It's just that men commit far more crimes than women do.
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Member Since: 2/11/2012
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Originally posted by hairofglory
Some of y'all don't know the first thing about being open minded. The truth is a hard pill to swallow indeed.
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Right!
I''m by far the most open minded person on this forum i don't get offended and I'm not racially insensitive because I'm Puerto Rican so obviously I'm not racist or racially sensitive to certain words or topics, people can actually learn a thing or 2 from me in all honesty!
There is nothing wrong with discussing the flaws and the double standards of the #BlackLivesMatter movement and there is nothing wrong with discussing factual stats about black on black crimes but this is ATRL it's like America divided and certain topics can't be discuss because political correctness has to be a top priority at all times ![toofunny2](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/faces/toofunny2_zpsb54f2d2d.gif)
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts
You guys do not understand the depth of corruption in police departments. Did you know there are ticket and arrest quotas? Officers have quotas to fill on how many people they ticket and arrest. They are called department target goals. What do you think will happen when police are instructed to make money and ticket and arrest as much people as possible to fill department quotas?.. Well, certain people (neighborhoods) will disproportionately get fined and arrested.
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Literally all of this. And affluent (read: rich and white) neighborhoods where crimes (especially domestic violence and drug sales/use) are committed just as much as anywhere else are given the blind eye. Because God forbid all the powerful lawyers and doctors have to answer for their crimes. So Black neighborhoods get disproportionately policed.
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@idontcareaboutyou One of the main problems are the lack of effective verdicts for cops who clearly abused their power. That's why so many people are angry.
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by Cas
@idontcareaboutyou One of the main problems are the lack of effective verdicts for cops who clearly abused their power. That's why so many people are angry.
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I see. I agree with you on that. I just don't like it when some people give off the impression that cops are out to get black people at all costs and that no other races fall victim to the police brutality in the US.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts
To nerve to call this guy a terrorist. He was in Afghanistan KILLING actual terrorists serving his COUNTRY. I dont feel too much sympathy for the cops.
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No you're not.
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Yes, those cops did nothing wrong and did not deserve it but
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But? There's a but? By your admission, they did nothing wrong and now they're gone forever because of the actions of other people who happened to be in the same profession. And yet you feel no sympathy for them. I don't even know what to say to that.
Okay, let's see what the "but" is...
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but so do many American citizens who get killed everyday by them.
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So when people are being needlessly killed, obviously the solution is more killing! ![rolleyes](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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