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Is Tyrion supposed to be the same age as Jon Snow?
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Cersei can't die until the end of the series. She is the evil beating heart of GoT and always has been, it would feel wrong without her. I think her wildfire cache's will become necessary to fight the White Walkers, and she will somehow do something semi decent before dying
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Originally posted by Salacious
Does the book say that you can be born with Dragon's Blood by chance? Otherwise, I don't see how Tyrion has connections to the dragons.
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The Mad King had a HUGE thing for Joanna Lannister and was said to have f*cked on her wedding night. Who's to say she wasn't f*cked after Cersei and Jaime were born (there's also a theory they're both Targaryens according to the above and also because they practiced incest. Mad King was married to his sister). This makes Tyrion possibly Dany's brother. The book also described Tyrion having hair so blonde (pale) it was almost silver. Lannister hair is Gold. Who do we know, has silver hair?
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Spoiler: Ending of final GRRM book:
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Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*
I'm pretty sure Tyrion is a half Targaryen as well. Let's take a look why.
a) Jon's and Tyrion's mothers both died when giving birth to them (as already posted beforehand
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Notice how Daenerys' mother died in the same way.
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Originally posted by Raster
Calling it now, Dany will marry Jaime. She told Daario she might have to marry for political alliances.
If the Maggy prophecy is true, a younger, more beautiful queen will take "everything you hold dear" from Cersei. Margaery kinda fulfilled the prophecy but I think Dany will seal it by seducing Jaime, who will kill Cersei. Just a wild guess.
Also they'd make a cute couple and this is a great way for him to protect her and forgive himself for breaking his vows to her father.
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Omg this is cute, I'd prefer this to Jon×Dany tbh
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Originally posted by Eóghan Scherzy
Arya's revenge was gratifying as **** but ...
I don't know, there was something deeply disturbing about this revenge, far more so than Sansa last episode. Feeding sons to him is a whole other level of cruelty and sadism, no matter what Walder has done. This feels like an appropriate and worrying escalation for Arya, each kill has gotten more twisted and more savage. Polliver got a quick stab to the neck. Meryn Trant was stabbed to pieces. And now this.
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Well yeah, but I think that's what the writers were going for. Keep in mind she not only watched her father get decapitated in person, but she was just feet away from a reunion with her mother and brother, just to have them beheaded and mutilated (and a whole humiliating show made of it) after. And all at such a young age... I think what she's been through is a legitimate catalyst for her developing into both a sick and twisted individual, in addition to burning with hatred. A Dangerous Woman tea
Actually, Sansa also watched Ned get beheaded, wasn't close to the Red wedding but was in kings landing enough to go through the torture and humiliation of Joffrey's celebration and the stories of Robb and cat's gruesome body mutilation/being tossed down the river, and also watched Rickon die, and she's the only other Stark who has shown anything resembling a sadistic steak (nowhere near Arya). Jon OTOH saw his first relative die in BOTB, and Bran has been completely sheltered from any of it, and they seem to be the purest of the remaining Starks. Just an observation.
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Originally posted by Austin
Cersei can't die until the end of the series. She is the evil beating heart of GoT and always has been, it would feel wrong without her. I think her wildfire cache's will become necessary to fight the White Walkers, and she will somehow do something semi decent before dying
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Yeah, there's only 2 seasons left. I can't see them killing off Cersei until season 8. Or at that's what I'm hoping, I need her alive.
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Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr
Well yeah, but I think that's what the writers were going for. Keep in mind she not only watched her father get decapitated in person, but she was just feet away from a reunion with her mother and brother, just to have them beheaded and mutilated (and a whole humiliating show made of it) after. And all at such a young age... I think what she's been through is a legitimate catalyst for her developing into both a sick and twisted individual, in addition to burning with hatred. A Dangerous Woman tea
Actually, Sansa also watched Ned get beheaded, wasn't close to the Red wedding but was in kings landing enough to go through the torture and humiliation of Joffrey's celebration and the stories of Robb and cat's gruesome body mutilation/being tossed down the river, and also watched Rickon die, and she's the only other Stark who has shown anything resembling a sadistic steak (nowhere near Arya). Jon OTOH saw his first relative die in BOTB, and Bran has been completely sheltered from any of it, and they seem to be the purest of the remaining Starks. Just an observation.
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This is true. Each stark child is supposed to mimic their Direwolf. We didn't get to see this in Sansa cause Lady died way too early (RIP Lady). But basically, Sansa was docile just like her direwolf, but given the right circumstances, any direwolf is deadly.
Also, recall from the finale, the current King of the North is now the "White Wolf". This is Jon being Ghost. Bran is the enemy of the White Walkers who brings Winter, hence his Direwolf is Summer. Shaggydog was scruffy and pointless to the end, hence need I say more.
Nymeria is the one Direwolf that was released from Winterfell, while Arya became the only Stark to leave Westeros. Nymeria learned to be a leader of a wolfpack and was a vicious murderer of men. This is exactly what Arya is becoming. Not a blatant murderer, but her Direwolf.
I'm really excited to see an Arya-Nymeria reunion. I would Stan Nymeria more than Dany's dragons I swear!
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Originally posted by Callisto.
Is Tyrion supposed to be the same age as Jon Snow?
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No. Jon Snow was born after the war was essentially won. Tyrion is maybe six or seven years younger than Cersei, who married Robert when the war ended.
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Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr
Well yeah, but I think that's what the writers were going for. Keep in mind she not only watched her father get decapitated in person, but she was just feet away from a reunion with her mother and brother, just to have them beheaded and mutilated (and a whole humiliating show made of it) after. And all at such a young age... I think what she's been through is a legitimate catalyst for her developing into both a sick and twisted individual, in addition to burning with hatred. A Dangerous Woman tea
Actually, Sansa also watched Ned get beheaded, wasn't close to the Red wedding but was in kings landing enough to go through the torture and humiliation of Joffrey's celebration and the stories of Robb and cat's gruesome body mutilation/being tossed down the river, and also watched Rickon die, and she's the only other Stark who has shown anything resembling a sadistic steak (nowhere near Arya). Jon OTOH saw his first relative die in BOTB, and Bran has been completely sheltered from any of it, and they seem to be the purest of the remaining Starks. Just an observation.
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Yep the Stark women are going down a vicious path while the boys didn't change much. It coincide with the fact Jon and Bran never left the North.
Weirdly at the beginning of the show Arya and Sansa were complete opposite, now they have a lot in common. Actually they have now more in common than Arya and Jon at the beginning. Jon is supposed to be her favorite sibling, he gave her Needle and yet I don't think he'll condom anything Arya has done so far.
It will be interesting to see their dynamic once Arya reaches Winterfell.
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If feel like if there was even a slightest chance that Tyrion was a Targaryen, Tywin would have disowned him. No matter what it would have done to his wife's reputation. In fact, he could claim she was raped and have more reason to be against that family.
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Originally posted by Raster
Calling it now, Dany will marry Jaime. She told Daario she might have to marry for political alliances.
If the Maggy prophecy is true, a younger, more beautiful queen will take "everything you hold dear" from Cersei. Margaery kinda fulfilled the prophecy but I think Dany will seal it by seducing Jaime, who will kill Cersei. Just a wild guess.
Also they'd make a cute couple and this is a great way for him to protect her and forgive himself for breaking his vows to her father.
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She would never marry Jaime. He's literally the man who stabbed her father in the back. asdfghjkl
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Originally posted by Eóghan Scherzy
Arya's revenge was gratifying as **** but ...
I don't know, there was something deeply disturbing about this revenge, far more so than Sansa last episode. Feeding sons to him is a whole other level of cruelty and sadism, no matter what Walder has done. This feels like an appropriate and worrying escalation for Arya, each kill has gotten more twisted and more savage. Polliver got a quick stab to the neck. Meryn Trant was stabbed to pieces. And now this.
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I agree, but there's also the fact that it was adapted from the text.
If you recall, there was once a scene where Bran and the Reed children arrived at the wall and Bran told the siblings the story of the Rat King. According to legend the Rat King broke the oath of protection promised to guests who shared bread and salt under his roof, and he was cursed by the gods to only be able to eat his own young. The fact that this scene took place immediately after the Red Wedding has been hinting for about three seasons now that one day Lord Frey would be fed his own children.
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She would never marry Jaime. He's literally the man who stabbed her father in the back. asdfghjkl
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Yeah, no.
They annointed Jon in the same episode in which she spoke of marriage. It's obvious that they're gonna get married. Plus Jon now holds the largest area of land after the Tyrell's. She will have to make an alliance with him if she still wants all seven kingdoms.
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Originally posted by Ressti
If feel like if there was even a slightest chance that Tyrion was a Targaryen, Tywin would have disowned him. No matter what it would have done to his wife's reputation. In fact, he could claim she was raped and have more reason to be against that family.
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He loved her way too much to do that. I think Joanna was the one person in the world that he actually cared about on an emotional level.
Further adding to the theory that Tyrion is a Targaryen is the fact that no one knows why Tywin suddenly resigned as Hand of the King and took all of the Lannisters back to Casterly Rock. By all accounts it was abrupt and out of nowhere.
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I loved when Margaery completely broke character: “Forget about the bloody gods and listen to what I am telling you.”
She gets it. Worst loss since Oberyn for me. I can't recover.
I think we saw Margaery lose her composure when Loras got arrested last season but Marg is really the kind of person who rarely lets her mask slip, so when she does it's quite alarming, so to see her panic, her who is usually so political, and see her be the smartest person in the room, have the best read of Cersei of ANYONE. Really effective scene.
Marg's plotting reminded me of S1 when Ned was trying to head off (no pun intended) Cersei but got screwed because he miscalculated how quickly and ruthlessly she could act.
Fitting that Margaery was the smartest person in the room until the very end. The character went out with dignity and a proud fandom.
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So then Dany and Tyrion are possibly siblings while Jon is their nephew?
Is Nymeria the only direwolf living? I wonder if that foreshadows the fate of the remaining Stark children?
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Also Joanna visited King's Landing, a rare occasion, and sometime in the next year had Tyrion
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SAG Ensemble noms after this year, if I counted correctly:
5 - Dany, Jaime, Tyrion, Jon, Cersei, Queen Sansa, Arya...Jaime missed much of S2, the only snubbed season.
4 - Jorah, Theon, Missandei
3 - Varys, Sandor, Selmy, Melisandre, Sam, Brienne
2 - Pypar, Catelyn, Bronn, Littlefinger, Joffrey, Pycelle, Bran, Robb, Grenn, Davos, Daario, Tormund, Grey Worm, Tywin, Margaery, Gilly, Ramsay, Edd, Podrick
1 - Irri, Robert, Ned, Mordane, Cassel, Rakharo, Drogo, Rast, Doreah, Qotho, Luwin (S1)
Talisa, Orell, Gendry, Thoros, Shae, Ygritte, Roose, Anguy (S3)
Slynt, Oberyn (S4)
Meryn Trant, Bowen Marsh, Stannis, Selyse, Othell, Hizdahr, Olly, Jaqen, Thorne (S5)
Tommen, High Sparrow, Waif, Gregor, Yara (S6)
I wonder why they never made Selmy a main cast member.
Most notable 0 time nominees are Hodor who would have qualified if S2 was nominated and otherwise got to 5 eps in a season for 23 altogether, and Loras who maxed out at 5 eps in a season for 21 altogether.
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Originally posted by ShouldersSideways
He loved her way too much to do that. I think Joanna was the one person in the world that he actually cared about on an emotional level.
Further adding to the theory that Tyrion is a Targaryen is the fact that no one knows why Tywin suddenly resigned as Hand of the King and took all of the Lannisters back to Casterly Rock. By all accounts it was abrupt and out of nowhere.
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All the more reason to disown the Targaryen bastard born out of rape that killed her?
Idk. I don't buy it. But I could be wrong. I just feel like... if there's a bunch of Targaryen bastards running around... why is Jon's parentage made to be so special by GRRM?
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Originally posted by Salacious
So then Dany and Tyrion are possibly siblings while Jon is their nephew?
Is Nymeria the only direwolf living? I wonder if that foreshadows the fate of the remaining Stark children?
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Ghost is still alive too.
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