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News: 11 officers shot at Dallas protest, 5 fatalities so far
Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by St. Charles
Mess. I've never pulled an alllivesmatter before.
I wasn't saying we shouldn't focus on black police brutality. I'm just saying we are fuming about the things we can't control, yet can't look within our own community.
I usually hold my tongue about that, because I'm not going to go in a thread about an innocent black guy being gunned down or something. That's just disrespectful / distasteful.
& You may have misunderstood me. Not that the other 97.5% where non-blacks affected by police brutality, they were black murders from non-police brutality.
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We can control how government officials act. That's just the typical cop out....people use when it's not the time to talk about that issue.
We are focused on police brutality right now. You don't see me going to a cancer fundraiser screaming about why we should cure some other disease.
There is a time and a place to have a discussion about black on black crime. That time is when we aren't talking about police brutality against black people.
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Member Since: 2/11/2012
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
Wow...
This movement is/has become a joke indeed. Not the intention, but the way it's structured and how radicalized the supporters have become. Truly shameful. |
I agree and they are constantly protesting the WRONG people like Bernie Sanders and gay prides when they should be protesting Trump or even Hillary rallies.. 
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Member Since: 2/11/2012
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Im in no way justifying the cop shootings but people are simply pointing out factual stats about black on black crimes and yes there is a BIG problem within themselves in that community so many black on black deaths and there is never a public outrage (LIKE NOW) in the form of debates, national news, rallies, shouting of "BlackLivesMatter" yet the moment a white person touches a black person tons of riots, debates, parades, shouting of #BlackLivesMatter are at a all time high.. But it didn't matter prior? 
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Member Since: 5/19/2011
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
Wow...
This movement is/has become a joke indeed. Not the intention, but the way it's structured and how radicalized the supporters have become. Truly shameful. |
tbh.
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
Im in no way justifying the cop shootings but people are simply pointing out factual stats about black on black crimes and yes there is a BIG problem within themselves in that community so many black on black deaths and there is never a public outrage (LIKE NOW) in the form of debates, national news, rallies, shouting of "BlackLivesMatter" yet the moment a white person touches a black person tons of riots, debates, parades, shouting of #BlackLivesMatter are at a all time high.. But it didn't matter prior? |
You're just another undercover showing their true colors. You try to deflect from the issue at hand to some other topic that black people always discuss amongst themselves day in and day out when you've never chosen to participate in that discussion until now. So stop. 
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
Im in no way justifying the cop shootings but people are simply pointing out factual stats about black on black crimes and yes there is a BIG problem within themselves in that community so many black on black deaths and there is never a public outrage (LIKE NOW) in the form of debates, national news, rallies, shouting of "BlackLivesMatter" yet the moment a white person touches a black person tons of riots, debates, parades, shouting of #BlackLivesMatter are at a all time high.. But it didn't matter prior? |
There wouldn't be so much "black on black" crime if racism, and class-ism, didn't make it such a possibility in the first place. People committing crimes in their own poor, ignored, under-served neighborhoods will only produce such numbers of incidents occurring and continue the agenda that they, "do it to themselves", when it was done to them.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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 @ the usuals blaming BLM for this
The culprit is a system that permits the police to shoot and kill black people without facing any serious consequences.
It's an uncomfortable truth, but the truth nonetheless.
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by Gui Blackout
Wow...
This movement is/has become a joke indeed. Not the intention, but the way it's structured and how radicalized the supporters have become. Truly shameful. |
But the BLM had nothing to do with this by all accounts so... maybe you're the joke.
I can't at people using the BLM as the backdrop for pursuing their race based hate agenda.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
@ the usuals blaming BLM for this
The culprit is a system that permits the police to shoot and kill black people without facing any serious consequences.
It's an uncomfortable truth, but the truth nonetheless. |
this
like how do some people not ****ing see this?
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Member Since: 2/11/2012
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Originally posted by Adonis
You're just another undercover bigot showing their true colors. You try to deflect from the issue at hand to some other topic that black people always discuss amongst themselves day in and day out when you've never chosen to participate in that discussion until now. So stop. |
How am I being racist? I didn't start the conversation either about black on black That wasn't my intention to come off as racist and that's the problem with the BLM movement when it comes to black on black or Latino on black they get in defensive mood when stats show that's a bigger problem but only focus on white on black which is factually a small percentage .. It's a double standard in all honesty and very backwards
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Originally posted by Beautiful Liar
How am I being racist? I didn't start the conversation either about black on black That wasn't my intention to come off as racist and that's the problem with the BLM movement when it comes to black on black or Latino on black they get in defensive mood when stats show that's a bigger problem but only focus on white on black which is factually a small percentage .. It's a double standard in all honesty and very backwards |
You're not thinking deep into the issue. Social economical upbringing is a primary factor in your percentages, which circles back to the issue at hand.
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We all know BOB crime is a thing. No one is denying that. However, it's always used to deflect from the cutrent situation at hand which is not a BOB crime. The difference between BOB crimes and police brutality is the former isn't committed because of skin color. Plus, BOB crimes are crimes, while sad and tragic, that's what they are. Those individuals that commit those crimes are found, convicted and jailed. Can't say the same for these police officers that do what they do and get through it unscathed.
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Member Since: 2/11/2012
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Originally posted by like2throw
You're not thinking deep into the issue. Social economical upbringing is a primary factor in your percentages, which circles back to the issue at hand.
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I'm actually a bit offended he or she label me as racist bigot when I'm not white I'm Puerto Rican so obliviously I'm treated as Black and I didn't start the conversation either so I'm not sure why she or he accuse me of going off topic
I was trying to say is how are we gonna tell white people to stop shooting us yet every weekend non whites are shooting each other.. Both issues need fixing at the same time and we shouldn't ignore BoB crimes no more
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Originally posted by BlooRiverAnimal
We all know BOB crime is a thing. No one is denying that. However, it's always used to deflect from the cutrent situation at hand which is not a BOB crime. The difference between BOB crimes and police brutality is the former isn't committed because of skin color. Plus, BOB crimes are crimes, while sad and tragic, that's what they are. Those individuals that commit those crimes are found, convicted and jailed. Can't say the same for these police officers that do what they do and get through it unscathed.
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Never mind that black on black crime is engendered by a whole host of social ills (wealth inequality, drugs, lack of education) brought upon the black community by you know who
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 1/21/2012
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I read about this this morning. Tragic. Saw some videos and they were terrifying.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
@ the usuals blaming BLM for this
The culprit is a system that permits the police to shoot and kill black people without facing any serious consequences.
It's an uncomfortable truth, but the truth nonetheless. |
The blame is with the murderer who shot the officers. The fact that some cops commit deplorable acts because they're racists is not an excuse to do the same deplorable acts as well.
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Originally posted by BlooRiverAnimal
We all know BOB crime is a thing. No one is denying that. However, it's always used to deflect from the cutrent situation at hand which is not a BOB crime. The difference between BOB crimes and police brutality is the former isn't committed because of skin color. Plus, BOB crimes are crimes, while sad and tragic, that's what they are. Those individuals that commit those crimes are found, convicted and jailed. Can't say the same for these police officers that do what they do and get through it unscathed.
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Bloo explaining calmly why the BOB crime argument is nonsense, while everyone else is calling eachother names over this 
But yes, I agree.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by Phoenetic
The blame is with the murderer who shot the officers. The fact that some cops commit deplorable acts because they're racists is not an excuse to do the same deplorable acts as well.
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I'm not excusing him lol. All I did was explain why it happened. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to say
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by Artemisia
I'm not excusing him lol. All I did was explain why it happened. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to say
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Didn't mean to say that you were, that came out wrong I guess. You were blaming the system, and while the system definitely is a big part of it, I still think the blame is always on the murderer. That's what I meant to say.
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Black people killing black people has nothing to do with this. And neither does BLM. Trying to deflect shows your own ignorance.
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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Originally posted by Artemisia
@ the usuals blaming BLM for this
The culprit is a system that permits the police to shoot and kill black people without facing any serious consequences.
It's an uncomfortable truth, but the truth nonetheless. |
Lmao BLM, a terrorist organization, IS directly to blame. How's that for an uncomfortable truth? It's full of racist, hateful bigots--many of whom are content with these murders and would gladly kill more whites. They made the very universal notion of police brutality, a ****** thing that exists FOR ALL RACES, into something that exclusively affects black people thus entitling them to even more benefits and special treatment. there is a system in place to blame but to say it only affects blacks and then kill white people is ignorant and primitive.
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