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Tournament: ATRL Charm School: Graduation Ceremony - WINNER REVEALED!
Member Since: 12/16/2011
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Originally posted by Ainsworth
Like... Tonight?
Well ****
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Goodbye.
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Member Since: 3/4/2012
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Just sent my entry in, decided to take a more serious approach with this one. Hopefully it's good enough for the judges.
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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Can't wait to see the other entries. I feel like I did really good on this one.
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Member Since: 11/27/2008
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I think this round it could be anyone's game.
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Member Since: 4/21/2011
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Below are the entries for Lesson 3 - Reflection (PART TWO).
Remember, you were asked to read someone else's view of how they perceive you, and in this entry provide some insight into how that made you feel, and what you can do moving forward.
Feel free to read them all, and discuss your opinions amongst yourselves.
Judge's ranks will be revealed soon.
Ainsworth:
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When I first saw iHypeMusic was assigned to write a reflection on me, I was intrigued and a little nervous because I haven't spoken with him prior to Charm School. I find that a lot of ATRLers will dislike me at first, but then once we actually speak and get to know each other we become good friends - I was worried that iHypeMusic's reflection would be negative considering that we haven't spoken much at all. I was actually really surprised at how accurate and well done his entry is - I agree with a lot of his points, especially the fact that I come of bitchy in some of my posts. As I said, I guess I tend to rub people the wrong way and they'll dislike me but once they get to know me we usually become good friends and get along perfectly fine. I did in fact use my about me to call Kelly Clarkson fat so I guess I could qualify as a bit of a bitchy troll in that sense. I liked the fact that iHypeMusic took the time to read my profile prior to doing his entry, I can tell that he took this very seriously.
He also complimented my personality and the fact that I haven't fought with many members on ATRL (I have to say that I'm no saint, I've definitely gotten in arguments before but he's a relatively new member so it's not his fault he didn't know that). He also called me a confident poster and was a good candidate to win Charm Schoolwhich I appreciated a lot.
I think after reading iHype's entry I will try and come off as a little less bitchy in my posts because it's really not my intention, it's just the way that I word them (like how some people saw my apology entry as insincere when I was really being sincere - I just word things strangely) and the fact that I can be a bit defensive at times. I'll try to flaunt the good sides of my posts more - my confidence and personality. I think iHype did an excellent job on his entry and he clearly put quite a bit of time and effort. I appreciated his entry and advice towards my posts and I hope he does well in the results.
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Monkey:
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To sum up Pika's reflection, he basically said I am irrelevant on ATRL.
I 100% agree.
This is the main reason why I wanted to participate in Charm School.
I want relevancy without resorting to tacky tactics.
*stares at certain members in the thread*
S.O.S. please judges help me.
I's not right for me to feel this way.
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pika:
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I believe Yourfavefan summed me up perfectly. I've been on ATRL for nearly a year, and still haven't made a name for myself. I think a part of my problem comes from equally stanning for Rihanna, Katy, and Nicki Minaj. Usually to make a name for yourself here you only stan for one female popstar (ie. Edge with Rihanna, Remixed with Gaga, Swag with Madonna, JessieJHeartbeat with Jessie J (), etc). Of course you can stan for more than one person and standout. However, it's easier to be noticed if people associate you with one artist, instead of 3.
Another reason why I may not standout, and I already said this in my entry for this competition, is that my shading skills are extremely weak. I try to be clever, but always end up with warning points galore in my inbox. It's obvious that a main part of ATRL is shading. Those who know how to do it standout more than those who don't. Simple. But shading isn't easy, and if you aren't smart then you'll end up banned like the many people who are each week. If I learn from the mistakes I've made in the past, and tone up on how to avoid WPs while shading, then I'll be able to standout more.
When pertaining to personality and how the forum views me, I believe I'm seen as an annoying Katy/Rihanna troll (to Gaga stans mainly, but it's possible others find me annoying too). To the people that are my friends, however, know that I'm a nice person. I'm only friends with about 4-6 members, but my point still stands. If people get to know me better, then they'll see past my flamebait-y comments.
However, I believe a way for me to come across less childish is to present my opinions in a more mature way, and furthermore, respect other people's opinions even when they don't agree with mine. It's one thing to stan, but to always argue with people because they don't agree with you is another. A good way to resolve this might be to ask the person who's disagreeing with me why they believe their opinion is right, instead of instigating an argument with " -insert essay of my opinion-".
Overall, I believe there's a lot about myself I can improve on, but I think an advantage I have is that I know what my problems are, and I'm willing to fix them. And with a little bit of practice and effort, I believe I'll be successful.
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Yourfavefan:
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Yes, I agree. I might express it too much. But I do have to point out that my life in the real world is not affected by my life right now. What MLD has read about my depression was probably a year ago when I was in Aruba. Or even before that. My life has been super happy, and ATRL has just been a by side for expressing myself differently. As a person in the real world, I am super nice and super calm. On ATRL, I feel like I can portray a full different personality. I see ATRL as a place to drag artists, something I would never do in real life. When it comes to posting here, I do like being a little bitchy and stirring the pot, I find it hilarious and quite entertaining when super bored at home. Other times, I am super nice to amazing members. I like to get to know new people, get to know new music and just be able to talk about anything and everything. I can see where MLD is coming from. As someone that doesn't know me and sees only those blogs, he can see me as a hateful person. Probably a lot of members from the non ke$ha / 20+ers could see that, but in reality, I am just having fun with it. It may seem that I take it seriously, but in reality, I just like acting that I do.
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iHypeMusic:
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Hello sisters Ammer and Boyonce,
I am here to reflect on myself. When I read Evil-Laugh's entry, I agreed. I can be a bitch sometimes, and sometimes I might do it purposely (), and I can be ghetto. But I also have a pretty nice side to myself, if you know me. I learned how I think I present myself is probably the key to how I actually do present myself, since we basically connected on me. I think the review was perfect, it wasn't too negative - and it had it's positives. I was thankful for the negatives, because after all - they're needed and Charm School. I am here to change myself for the better, and become a classy young man. I think this review made me also realize I have a firm grasp on how I see myself, and the challenge was almost perfect for me. It told me straight to the point on what I need to approve on, and what I am good with. I needed this, and I loved it. I see myself in a way of working on myself positively. So in return, I thank Evil-Laugh & you judges for putting this together. I think now I can better my progress and be sure of my firm grasp on my reputation.
Sincerely, iHypeMusic.
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AllThatF***ery:
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I feel my reflection was spot on. I do complain a lot about how the interactions in my own posts and games get ignored quite often.
It's always something I've noticed and I've always acted out on.
The lack of support could heavily be due to the fact I come and disappear from a lot of threads and games. I rarely seem to interact with a lot of the members like I used to.
But I couldn't be offended or even slightly pissed at the portrayal I'm viewed as because its accurate, and it sucks that I can be viewed in such a way.
Hiding behind a computer screen and not being able to allow my personality and such to flourish like it does in real life is a tad overwhelming for me.
I won't lie, I'm liked by a lot, and in my time in these forums, I'm not. I'm so intent on knowing why and not how I could change it in my favor.
This is me:
I am AllThat****ery. I'm here to change, and I'm ready for you all to look forward and see a better ATRL member. Thank you.
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Evil-Laugh:
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I've read ATF opinions about me and I agree with him. I agree that I'm quite... basic, simple and I don't have a problem with anyone here, I'm being really careful with what I say because I received a WP like, my first posts, I'm kinda scared since tbh , so I agree with no negative posts thing too, I pretty much ignore all the negative things, I can stop the ignoring anytime and scream and shout and let it all out whenever I get a bad avi rates or low member rates but I don't wanna be hated , at the end of the day, it's still their opinion and I respect it. The only thing I don't agree with him is that I don't need Charm School, I mean, I'm here because my posts are too simple, I need to improve them to become a better member. I'm not saying that I want to be messy or things like that, just like you guys, I need Charm School, just for different reasons. Like I said before, it's still your opinion and I respect that.
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Marnie:
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Honey's words about me I'm not gonna judge, he wasn't rude while being quite honest, I don't bother fighting in stan wars bc id have no idea how to come back and I'd lose haha but in real fact it's true, just wish honey knew with the grammar thing I can't help bc i have a learning problem, but not everyone can know about this, but only thing I could see myself fixing is growing some more bulls, etc stand up for myself and not sound too much like a drama queen saying everyone hates me, I remember being all like that, and how embarrassing, just gonna learn to not give a **** but thanks honey for your honestly but I have had a really messy week in threads which makes me look so messy that needs to be change.
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ethan:
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Hugamari's reflection on me was accurate in the sense that it did apply to me, but was general enough to apply to lots of other members, too. I really appreciated the compliments he gave me; I especially loved the bit about my avatar, and it genuinely made me feel good to know that he took notice.
However, I was kind of disappointed overall because I was looking for more constructive feedback. The fact that I seem to take things too seriously sometimes was the only thing I really got out of it, which is a fair point; that is something that I definitely can see that I need work on, he's not the first person to say that. I think it amounts to the fact that I don't focus on how other people may perceive me and my posts long-term; when I make a post, it's very much "in the moment", and if I want to be a productive member on this community, perhaps I should focus on the long-term.
I suppose I should be glad it wasn't a harsh critique, I'm glad it wasn't obnoxious and rude, but as far as what I need to help me become a better member, I need more than that blurb. I shouldn't expect expert advice from a fellow contestant -- help me judges, you're my only hope!
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Honey:
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I feel complimented by Marnie's reflection on me. In it, she describes me as 'interesting' and 'one of those cool members'. I am flattered by this description, because I constantly strive to stand out among the masses of ATRL and earn notoriety a la Nicole or EdgeOfAddiction. I don't want to sound vain, but I suppose the description 'interesting' and 'one of those cool members' describes me fairly accurately. One thing I could learn from Marnie's reflection is to befriend more members; she mentions that '[I] don't think I've ever actually had a conversation to him so to be honest I don't know him very well'.
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MusicLoverDude:
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Well I'm not gonna lie. Ainsworth's review on me didn't feel great. Everyone else got some input on who they are as a member and all I got was a bunch of Tyra GIFs - which didn't even make sense to me at first until I actually looked up that scene on Youtube. I felt like Ainsworth was trying to sabotage me instead of actually trying to help me which I thought was the point of this challenge, I thought our reflections on other members were supposed to help our members this round. And I didn't think Ainsworth's was really helpful at all - not at first anyway.
After I did my research on the Tyra GIFS, and after I took the words into more thought, well, Ainsworth (or should I say Tyra because they're really her words) had a point. Earlier in the year when I was getting into all of those fights in No Holds Barred, there were a lot of people on my side. But with each fight I got into I kept losing supporters until I barely had any left - and all the blogs I posted about everything didn't help either. A lot of people see me as this attention ***** drama queen and as a result, my reputation fell faster than Christina Aguilera's career.
I think in the end, those Tyra GIFS really helped me because I think I can really start redeeming myself as a member. I know why a lot of people see me as this attention ***** drama queen is because of what I post in the blogs and because of all the fights I got into in No Holds Barred. Well, No Holds Barred is discontinued so that takes care of that. As for my blogs, I've probably said this before in my blog but it's time I actually take action on those words - it might actually be a lot more beneficial if I use my blog for more substance-worthy posts like reviewing albums or something along the lines of music, and keep the personal stuff to a minimum.
I know everyone thinks of me as an attention ***** or a troll, but it's not too late to change that - the positive person I am has belief in that.
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Hugamari:
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What were your thoughts when you read about how someone else sees you? When I first read what Monkey thought of me, I was flattered. He was correct when he said we don't talk much, so I am glad that he saw me as an approachable poster.
Was it accurate? I feel it was very accurate. Compared to a lot of people who frequent ATRL, my style is a bit different. A lot of people may find my obscure stanning and odd posts weird, but it's just a part of who I am.
Do you agree or were you offended? I whole-heartedly agree with everything Monkey said in his post. I am also really glad that he took the time to learn more about me while writing his reflection of me. I think it's an honor for people with an open mind to actually give me a chance. If more people were to do that instead of judging at face value, I think a lot of people who "blend into the masses" would be seen as unique.
Can you learn something from it? I can, actually! He said he only knew me from Blogs (DillonATRL's in particular), and I am honestly not surprised. I think I express myself a lot easier in Blogs due to the less traffic and moderation that goes on there. Maybe if I were to make more of an effort to be known outside of Blogs, more people would come to like me, and I wouldn't just be another avatar in a sea of posts.
TLDR Version
Overall, I would like to say I greatly appreciate the effort and honesty Monkey put into the reflection of me. It was great to find out what someone thought of me! It was also great for me, to see where I stand as an ATRL'er. Furthermore, it is motivation for me to become greater.
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Credit for Charm School graphics goes to the flawless Stonem.
http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=281536
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Member Since: 9/15/2011
Posts: 3,184
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Everyone did a good job.
Can't wait for the results
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
Posts: 14,707
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Holy ****, everyone did a good job.
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Member Since: 9/15/2011
Posts: 3,184
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Originally posted by pika
Holy ****, everyone did a good job.
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Ikr, idk if I should be happy or sad about this
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
Posts: 14,707
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Originally posted by Evil-laugh
Ikr, idk if I should be happy or sad about this
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I'm actually scared I'll get eliminated. I want to win a challenge so bad, but I see 3 entries that are a bit better than mine. On a side note, it was nice that everyone took the challenge seriously this time, considering how messy the first one was. But now it makes the competition that much more competitive.
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Member Since: 9/15/2011
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Originally posted by pika
I'm actually scared I'll get eliminated. I want to win a challenge so bad, but I see 3 entries that are a bit better than mine. On a side note, it was nice that everyone took the challenge seriously this time, considering how messy the first one was. But now it makes the competition that much more competitive.
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I agree, mine is too short compared to everyone
Getting my ass eliminated should be embarrasing cuz' I did pretty well on the first challenge. I hope not
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Member Since: 12/16/2011
Posts: 11,007
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You never know what the judges are looking for. That's what I hate about these kind of games.
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
Posts: 14,707
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Originally posted by Monkey
You never know what the judges are looking for. That's what I hate about these kind of games.
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I'm always scared of what Edge will think. He could either REALLY love your entry, or really hate it. He's so unpredictable and that's what scares me. I care a lot about what the other judges have to say, but Edge is so tough on us that I focus my attention more on his critiques.
The anticipation for tonight's elimination lksdjf.
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Member Since: 9/15/2011
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I'm not gonna have a good night sleep tonight
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Member Since: 10/19/2010
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Just sent mine in! Here are some hints,
1. I expected more from you based on your initial reflection.
2. You took the effort to go through his posts, profile, etc... to capture an objective view of who he is. Well done!
3. In this challenge, it's important to honestly reflect on the entry, and if you disagree, provide valid reasons for said disagreement.
4. I feel your entry came off rude, and dismissive.
5. HUGE improvement over your last entry.
6. I commend you for taking responsibility for your actions in the past.
7. Your reflection of ____ seemed incredibly honest, but in a way which fuels a good reflection.
8. You truly seem to want to aid others, and that's a great quality to have.
9. You were able to open up and share something personal (which isn't easy to do).
10. The one aspect I felt you lacked is the reflection on your previous trolling.
11. It's always a positive to not only recognize how others view you, but identifying your feelings around that.
12. I do think you chose generic, vague terms which could apply to any member here.
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Member Since: 11/27/2008
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Is it just me being insecure or do I feel like my entry wasn't as good as the others?
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Banned
Member Since: 6/12/2012
Posts: 6,002
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Originally posted by MusicLoverDude
Is it just me being insecure or do I feel like my entry wasn't as good as the others?
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Member Since: 11/27/2008
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Drew, is it me or are you becoming more of a GIF addict ? It's a bit disturbing!
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Banned
Member Since: 6/12/2012
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Originally posted by MusicLoverDude
Drew, is it me or are you becoming more of a GIF addict ? It's a bit disturbing!
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What's the problem?
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Member Since: 3/4/2012
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I'm glad MLD saw that I wasn't just trolling with my reflection of him.
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Banned
Member Since: 6/12/2012
Posts: 6,002
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I've been waiting in my dorm all day for results
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