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Movie: Suicide Squad - Extended Cut on 11/15
Member Since: 5/27/2016
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They better decide on one cut for the blu-ray version, not the theatrical frankenstein cut
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Originally posted by Inception
I think, with all the movie's problems, that is what bothers me the most. This is the first time Harley and the Joker appear in this cinematic universe, and they really deserved much better introductions.
But I still look forward to watch this again in the future.
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I feel like precursor movies should of been made that allowed better introduction to the characters. Then once all characters were well introduced into the universe, they could of made a suicide squad that wouldn't of felt so rushed due to them having to tell everyone's backstories in one movie. Plus it would of revolved around the WHOLE squad, not just harley and deadshot saving the movie. Sort of how marvel made stand alone movies for it's characters (iron man, captain america, thor) THEN moved on to make the avengers movies.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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They could have easily made few of the squead members seocndary villans in MoS and BvS so we already know them wheb the movie picks up
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by keepitundercover
I feel like precursor movies should of been made that allowed better introduction to the characters. Then once all characters were well introduced into the universe, they could of made a suicide squad that wouldn't of felt so rushed due to them having to tell everyone's backstories in one movie. Plus it would of revolved around the WHOLE squad, not just harley and deadshot saving the movie. Sort of how marvel made stand alone movies for it's characters (iron man, captain america, thor) THEN moved on to make the avengers movies.
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NOBODY is here for Deadshot, boomerang, Katana, Croc, Diablo SOLO movies.
Making a GREAT comic book team up movie is possible WITHOUT solo films leading up to it. X Men 2000 proved that extremely well and, unlike Guardians, those were ALL iconic comic book characters.
The problem in SS is the execution. I could say the same about BvS and Apocalypse. The problem is not that there isn't a solo movie leading up to it, the problem is how you use the cgaracter and use every moment in the film to develop the arc each of them will have in the movie.
I hadn't watched Thor before Avengers and I liked him in there. I didn't watch AntMan and I liked him in Civil War. Marvel introduced Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, Black Panther & Spiderman in TEAM UP films and it worked. The execution is what matters.
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Originally posted by keepitundercover
I feel like precursor movies should of been made that allowed better introduction to the characters. Then once all characters were well introduced into the universe, they could of made a suicide squad that wouldn't of felt so rushed due to them having to tell everyone's backstories in one movie. Plus it would of revolved around the WHOLE squad, not just harley and deadshot saving the movie. Sort of how marvel made stand alone movies for it's characters (iron man, captain america, thor) THEN moved on to make the avengers movies.
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I agree, and that is WB's fault for trying to catch up instead of going at the necessary pace. Although, I honestly believe they should have focused first and foremost on Harley and the Joker. This should have been their story. Instead, they were trying to make it about most of the squad and it felt unfocused, at least to me.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Wow this movie was not bad at all, it was pretty standard and enjoyable. Absolutely did not deserve a 27% and glad it's not flopping.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by TheLastChord
NOBODY is here for Deadshot, boomerang, Katana, Croc, Diablo SOLO movies.
Making a GREAT comic book team up movie is possible WITHOUT solo films leading up to it. X Men 2000 proved that extremely well and, unlike Guardians, those were ALL iconic comic book characters.
The problem in SS is the execution. I could say the same about BvS and Apocalypse. The problem is not that there isn't a solo movie leading up to it, the problem is how you use the cgaracter and use every moment in the film to develop the arc each of them will have in the movie.
I hadn't watched Thor before Avengers and I liked him in there. I didn't watch AntMan and I liked him in Civil War. Marvel introduced Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, Black Panther & Spiderman in TEAM UP films and it worked. The execution is what matters.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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I saw it on opening night (last night  My country is a mess)
I can't believe that this was actually worse than BvS, it literally had no plot. It felt like "ok, let's shoot this 'cool' scenes and then let's see what happens"
Many people complained about the editing but I kinda liked it, not really a "normal" editing but it wasn't distracting ( + I liked the music too, even if it wasn't necessary). The acting was awful from nearly everyone but DAMN at Cara (I dislike her so maybe I'm biased)
Harley (+ Joker) was the saving grace. Their scenes were everything, and when she's on top of the police car + the dream sequence >>>>. Viola had a good character but I think she was overrated because she's Viola and slays everything.
The dubbed version is a 2.5 at best. I'm sure the original is probably a solid 4-4.5 (I'll never see this wreck again so I'll never know). The critics were certainly too soft on this, It didn't even have Transformes/BvS destruction eye-candy.
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Originally posted by Pure Adrenaline
They could have easily made few of the squead members seocndary villans in MoS and BvS so we already know them wheb the movie picks up
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this would of been a great idea
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Member Since: 3/2/2014
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I haven't seen this one, it's getting released here next week. I heared terrible things but I don't mind, I feel like I'm gonna love it. Same thing happened with Catwoman... I still believe Berry was the best in that role. lol
Btw, I have downloaded the fighting app and I'm obsessed!!!!!
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Originally posted by Pure Adrenaline
They could have easily made few of the squead members seocndary villans in MoS and BvS so we already know them wheb the movie picks up
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What Suicide Squad member could've been a Superman villain? Who can match him? Not to mention the Squad is made up mostly of Batman villains.
And no, we didn't need another villain in BvS. That movie was already crowded.
None these characters needed a solo movie or need to be seen before. What they needed was better writing for them in SS.
Solo movies aren't always needed. See: Any X-Men film, GOTG or hell even a classic film like The Dirty Dozen, which had a similar concept to SS.
Marvel has spoiled y'all and now you expect 6 solos, 1 team up, 4 solos, 1 team up, etc. If a team film does it's job right, a solo isn't necessary.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Originally posted by Cheeerl
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I still can't believe they cut most of it  It should've been a Harley x Joker movie with the SS in the background.
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Domestic: $262,283,335 45.8%
+ Foreign: $310,400,000 54.2%
= Worldwide: $572,683,335
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Should hit 300m domestically and at least $350m overseas.
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Did it make it's money back? if not, how long till it breaks even and becomes profitable?
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Member Since: 3/13/2011
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Originally posted by phreshprince
Did it make it's money back? if not, how long till it breaks even and becomes profitable?
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THR says it needs to make $750 million to break even but I don't think that's true. The production budget was supposedly $175m but there are no figures for the marketing budget.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by keepitundercover
I feel like precursor movies should of been made that allowed better introduction to the characters. Then once all characters were well introduced into the universe, they could of made a suicide squad that wouldn't of felt so rushed due to them having to tell everyone's backstories in one movie. Plus it would of revolved around the WHOLE squad, not just harley and deadshot saving the movie. Sort of how marvel made stand alone movies for it's characters (iron man, captain america, thor) THEN moved on to make the avengers movies.
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So true. That's why that formula worked so well. Me and my friends were DYING to see the first Avengers film because we were so curious on how all these characters would interact together for the first time. If they started the mcu with an Avengers movie, I don't think it would've been as successful.
Harley's origin story at the asylum feat. The Joker ABSOLUTELY deserved its own movie. The way they did it in the animated series - We needed to see how they took over Gotham city, with Batman having an important role in the film too. This one film alone would've helped if it was released a year or so before SS.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I'm planning on watching this movie Wednesday, is this really as bad as everyones makes it out to be ?
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Member Since: 12/6/2010
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Watched it over the weekend.
Definitely not as bad as the reviews make it out to be.
Yes there are glaring editing and pacing issues but it was definitely fun.
Will and Margot slayed. loved their chemistry.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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yeah it's not great.
but feels like the only person who does not think that joker was not enough in it. i think it was a great amount of time.
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