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Originally posted by Honey Eyes

P.S.: I passed all my exams so far

Crush

[Gaga foreshadowing in BTW era+VEVO Interview (December 2011)]: Gaga constantly foreshadows her future work in her current work. The video of “Marry The Night” was already foreshadowing that theme. Just like the “Paparazzi”-video was foreshadowing “The Fame Monster”. She relived a moment from her past. But in her fantasy she made the nurses wear next season Calvin Klein. Is it a fantasy because her memory may have changed some facts?

She continues to discuss this in the VEVO Interview (December 2011): I generally loathe reality, but I don't believe that this moment between us is real. I believe this [interview] is a performance. There's 7 microphones and I'm microphoned and there's a camera, but through all the mediums in my work I am now, even working on my next record, pushing further and further in my mind - How can I more intensely and more perversely challenge myself to honor what is a real stage and what isn't:
-Are they all real?
-Can you exist in a real moment if someone is photographing you? Can you not?
-If the camera is on and it captures something, is it only real if its voyeuristic with (e.g.) a cellphone? If its a professional camera, if it was expensive and you hired someone like Darius Khondji who is my Director of Photography who did "Se7en" - does that mean that it wasn't real because he is so professional? But if I had my sister photograph me back then in that moment or rather my best friend, would that have been more real rather because it would have been in the actual moment?

I just find it interesting how we perceive what is artifice and what is reality, I believe that I relived that moment (in my supposed room after being dropped in the Marry The Night video) of that day with Darius and Gideon watching...The truth of it is that I don't necessarily believe that I didn't relive that moment, I believe that I did and now it's captured. I think to myself, it if wasn't real, why didn't I stop after the music was over or why didn't someone yell cut? Why didn't say that's enough we've got it?

[Access Hollywood (November 2011)]:I'm fascinated with the decay of the blonde pop icon and how culture loves to build and give birth to fantasies and then destroy them and what that means. It's something I want to explore on my next album.

[MTV News (September 2011): "I'm actually already working on my next album...I have lots of things to do, but in truth, I feel like I'm the most alive when I'm onstage."

INTERPRETATION: -When Gaga talks about being most alive on stage - is the hinting to the idea about perception in the VEVO interview - where does she feel most alive? - behind the camera, not in the public eye or on stage? This connects to the idea of the blonde pop icon as well - where does she feel most alive? And where do people perceive her to be most real? Is she real at all or is her whole life a performance?

“I live halfway between reality and fantasy at all time.”
"We need fantasy to survive because reality is too difficult."
"It's not that I've been dishonest, it's just that I loathe reality."

When you take into account the transition between all her eras, her work seems rather progressive now:
- In 'The Fame', she tackled the positive side of fame and it's liberating/glamorous side, but people attacked her for being the plastic/party girl who didn't have meaning to her music.
- So in 'The Fame Monster', she responded by tackling the meaningful/dark side of 'The Fame'.
- During both these eras she gained many fans (a lot of which were disenfranchised/outcasted), with whom she resonated with - During this time, a lot of her fans were struggling with social injustice and in response Gaga added another layer to the idea of who she is - this is why while dealing with the meaning/struggle of her own life in 'The Fame Monster', she came to deal with meaning/struggle of her and her fans' lives in 'Born This Way' and begin to act in social justice which was an undercurrent of her work since she started - 'Born This Way' this is who the **** I we are!
- But during 'Born This Way', people called her fake, saying she was a plagiarist - how can you be born with wigs/horns on your face etc.? She clearly stuck to the message of Born This Way, but she is now intrigued by the idea that people perceive the real/fake her differently in different situations. It seems like the artifice of who she is fills the public perception of her the bigger and bigger she gets.
- There were also calls for her to go back to 'The Fame' era fun Gaga and be more theatrical - in this sense she may progress back to being commercial/this image but not at the cost of the serious artist she portrays herself to be now - this would undermine her integrity
- This is why the blonde pop icon (and her decay) is relevant in the next album. People perceive a superstar in different ways (e.g. live, music video, in real life - on the street, on the radio etc.). Sometimes they see her as real, sometimes as partially real and sometimes as completely fake - what effects this? And why do people make these assumptions for a period of time and destroy them later? - what changes? what happens to make this change?
It seems she sort of conforms slightly to what the public expect subconsciously expect from her, or rather the public's reaction to each era intrigues her.

Peep

****. I have 2 5,4's while I need 5,5 to pass a subject.

Superiore

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Originally posted by Crush

[Gaga foreshadowing in BTW era+VEVO Interview (December 2011)]: Gaga constantly foreshadows her future work in her current work. The video of “Marry The Night” was already foreshadowing that theme. Just like the “Paparazzi”-video was foreshadowing “The Fame Monster”. She relived a moment from her past. But in her fantasy she made the nurses wear next season Calvin Klein. Is it a fantasy because her memory may have changed some facts?

She continues to discuss this in the VEVO Interview (December 2011): I generally loathe reality, but I don't believe that this moment between us is real. I believe this [interview] is a performance. There's 7 microphones and I'm microphoned and there's a camera, but through all the mediums in my work I am now, even working on my next record, pushing further and further in my mind - How can I more intensely and more perversely challenge myself to honor what is a real stage and what isn't:
-Are they all real?
-Can you exist in a real moment if someone is photographing you? Can you not?
-If the camera is on and it captures something, is it only real if its voyeuristic with (e.g.) a cellphone? If its a professional camera, if it was expensive and you hired someone like Darius Khondji who is my Director of Photography who did "Se7en" - does that mean that it wasn't real because he is so professional? But if I had my sister photograph me back then in that moment or rather my best friend, would that have been more real rather because it would have been in the actual moment?

I just find it interesting how we perceive what is artifice and what is reality, I believe that I relived that moment (in my supposed room after being dropped in the Marry The Night video) of that day with Darius and Gideon watching...The truth of it is that I don't necessarily believe that I didn't relive that moment, I believe that I did and now it's captured. I think to myself, it if wasn't real, why didn't I stop after the music was over or why didn't someone yell cut? Why didn't say that's enough we've got it?

[Access Hollywood (November 2011)]:I'm fascinated with the decay of the blonde pop icon and how culture loves to build and give birth to fantasies and then destroy them and what that means. It's something I want to explore on my next album.

[MTV News (September 2011): "I'm actually already working on my next album...I have lots of things to do, but in truth, I feel like I'm the most alive when I'm onstage."

INTERPRETATION: -When Gaga talks about being most alive on stage - is the hinting to the idea about perception in the VEVO interview - where does she feel most alive? - behind the camera, not in the public eye or on stage? This connects to the idea of the blonde pop icon as well - where does she feel most alive? And where do people perceive her to be most real? Is she real at all or is her whole life a performance?

“I live halfway between reality and fantasy at all time.”
"We need fantasy to survive because reality is too difficult."
"It's not that I've been dishonest, it's just that I loathe reality."

When you take into account the transition between all her eras, her work seems rather progressive now:
- In 'The Fame', she tackled the positive side of fame and it's liberating/glamorous side, but people attacked her for being the plastic/party girl who didn't have meaning to her music.
- So in 'The Fame Monster', she responded by tackling the meaningful/dark side of 'The Fame'.
- During both these eras she gained many fans (a lot of which were disenfranchised/outcasted), with whom she resonated with - During this time, a lot of her fans were struggling with social injustice and in response Gaga added another layer to the idea of who she is - this is why while dealing with the meaning/struggle of her own life in 'The Fame Monster', she came to deal with meaning/struggle of her and her fans' lives in 'Born This Way' and begin to act in social justice which was an undercurrent of her work since she started - 'Born This Way' this is who the **** I we are!
- But during 'Born This Way', people called her fake, saying she was a plagiarist - how can you be born with wigs/horns on your face etc.? She clearly stuck to the message of Born This Way, but she is now intrigued by the idea that people perceive the real/fake her differently in different situations. It seems like the artifice of who she is fills the public perception of her the bigger and bigger she gets.
- There were also calls for her to go back to 'The Fame' era fun Gaga and be more theatrical - in this sense she may progress back to being commercial/this image but not at the cost of the serious artist she portrays herself to be now - this would undermine her integrity
- This is why the blonde pop icon (and her decay) is relevant in the next album. People perceive a superstar in different ways (e.g. live, music video, in real life - on the street, on the radio etc.). Sometimes they see her as real, sometimes as partially real and sometimes as completely fake - what effects this? And why do people make these assumptions for a period of time and destroy them later? - what changes? what happens to make this change?
It seems she sort of conforms slightly to what the public expect subconsciously expect from her, or rather the public's reaction to each era intrigues her.

Interesting, you could be right !

Superiore

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Originally posted by Peep

****. I have 2 5,4's while I need 5,5 to pass a subject.

NOOOOO

Anthagio

OMG @ Gaga tweeting on the day of Madonna's video and song premiere. Shady!

Loves it.

effie593

I don't know what's more entertaining, Madonna's video, or seeing every few comments posted on it being Gaga related.

H-I-M

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Originally posted by Honey Eyes

Good morning

Any news?

P.S.: I passed all my exams so far

Congrats

Boop

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Originally posted by effie593

I don't know what's more entertaining, Madonna's video, or seeing every few comments posted on it being Gaga related.

Did she already beat Gaga's record?

effie593

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Originally posted by Boop

Did she already beat Gaga's record?

You mean the iTunes record? I'm not sure, I don't think so though. At least not yet anyway.

Boop

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Originally posted by effie593

You mean the iTunes record? I'm not sure, I don't think so though. At least not yet anyway.

She's just beat it

Anthagio

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Originally posted by Boop

Did she already beat Gaga's record?

I don't even see it in the top 200.

It's been out for about an hour. She better hurry.

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Originally posted by effie593

I don't know what's more entertaining, Madonna's video, or seeing every few comments posted on it being Gaga related.

Payback for every Gaga video being plagued with pressed Madonna fans.

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Originally posted by Boop

She's just beat it

Is my iTunes messed up.

UAE

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Originally posted by Boop

She's just beat it

still didn't reach #1 ..

Boop

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Originally posted by Boop

She's just beat it

No sorry

that was the album chart!

Well is a metter of time. I'm not pressed, just curious

effie593

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Originally posted by Boop

No sorry

that was the album chart!

Well is a metter of time. I'm not pressed, just curious

You got me nervous for a second.

I'd rather Gaga's record remain intact.

Anthagio

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Originally posted by Boop

No sorry

that was the album chart!

Well is a metter of time. I'm not pressed, just curious

Did Gaga even have a record for the album?

The video and album are near the top of the charts, but where is the single.

effie593

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Originally posted by Anthagio

Payback for every Gaga video being plagued with pressed Madonna fans.

True.

It's also a lot of idiotic haters saying things like "Gaga who?" and "RIP Gaga". I mean...

Boop

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Originally posted by Anthagio

Did Gaga even have a record for the album?

The video and album are near the top of the charts, but where is the single.

Anthy, stop it

it's an iTunes' bug of course! the single will be in the top5 now

Anthagio

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Originally posted by Boop

Anthy, stop it

it's an iTunes' bug of course! the single will be in the top5 now

Well the iTunes bug has eight minutes to fix.

Oshiish

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Originally posted by H-I-M

Still promoting that video almost a year after ?

https://twitter.com/#!/ladygaga/stat...19172727902209

Gaga you shady shady :ish:...

Its always been undercover very lite shade... but this... she is clearly throwing shade.
I love it!

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