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Celeb News: Dr. Luke's rep drags Kesha in response to Instagram post
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Snoopy
The eternal struggle rape victims go through. "You have no proof" well, no ****, your semen isn't still inside the woman you grotesque piece of ****.
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She should have kept the clothes or sheets it happened on a la Monica Lewinsky.
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Dag this lawyer sounds like the 2016 Olivia Pope!!
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Originally posted by Toya
How the **** are they victim blaming?? Last time I checked, victim blaming was blaming a rape victim for their own rape NOT refusing to automatically believe someone who cries rape with absolutely no evidence. Did the definition change and no one told me???.
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This is what they don't seem to get.
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Originally posted by teresaguidice
why? rapists should be exposed. and it's only because of the media scrutiny that sony and luke are feeling any kind of pressure
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He has yet to be exposed as a rapist, just called one. Literally called one by a girl who under oath, said he never raped her.
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of course atrl is crawling with luke supporters. god you guys are the pits.
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Member Since: 2/13/2012
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Originally posted by Grumpy Gills
Expect I am talking about one thing, which is the rape allegations. And "court, evidence" is how it works, dear if you want to live in a world where all it takes is somebody saying you did something and it be taken as fact then that's on you.
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I'm aware how it works, grandpa.
It's very obvious that the two should no longer be forced to work together.
I believe that the evidence of the events going on in the media could be enough to make that happen.
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Originally posted by collin
It's very clear that this was written in the 2ish year period that Kesha and Dr. Luke were on good terms.
Which only happened at the expense of Kesha letting him puppet her.
Again, not a good plan, but that's not what we're discussing here.
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No.
Kesha's mom said she knew about the rape immediatly which was in 2005.
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On Oct. 5, 2005, Kesha and Dr. Luke attended a birthday party for Nicky Hilton at her sister Paris' Hollywood Hills mansion. Kesha was drinking. According to Kesha's 2014 lawsuit, Luke raped her after giving her what he called "sober pills":
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http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...view-exclusive
She send the email telling Dr Luke "he was great, part of their family, was going to be a great dad" in 2011!!
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The added material also includes a 2011 email from Pebe to Gottwald, where she congratulates him on the birth of his daughter and says, "I know you are going to be a great dad." An email from 2009 finds Pebe sending Dr. Luke birthday wishes and telling him, "You are part of our family."
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http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...mation-lawsuit
All this to the rapist of her daughter and the man she's being forced to work with?? Or are you telling me a mother can just forget she's dealing with the rapist of her daughter??? And can just kiss his ass and call him a "member of her family"?
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Member Since: 2/13/2012
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
No. If you want to believe Kesha's version of events or her mother's, well they've talked to the press so much that they even gave a reason
" But if she wanted to have a shot at the music business, she had no choice but [to work with him]."
http://www.etonline.com/news/184210_...se_by_dr_luke/
It had **** to do with being "brave" or "die", she wanted a shot at being a STAR so she stayed and allowed the abuse to continue. As did her mother. She too, turned a blind eye to this so called abuse, so that her daughter could have a career.
Yet even those of you who BELIEVE the rape story don't have any problem that a "rape victim" and her mother willingly allowed an abusive relationship to continue in order to make money!
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You're failing to realize that Kesha probably didn't realize how detrimental and horrid the things she was doing to herself were until she went to rehab. She probably wrote it off as fine and that she could handle it. Again, like 500 people have been saying but people keep ignoring, victims of abuse often have a very distorted gauge on their abuser and the circumstance they're in.
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Perched for the defamation lawsuit.
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Amazing! Hopefully she ends up behind bars when all of this blows over. I will NOT tolerate someone falsifying reality with BS claims just to get out of a (extremely fair) recording contract.
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Member Since: 2/13/2012
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
No.
Kesha's mom said she knew about the rape immediatly which was in 2005.
She send the email telling Dr Luke "he was great, part of their family, was going to be a great dad" in 2011!!
http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...mation-lawsuit
All this to the rapist of her daughter and the man she's being forced to work with?? Or are you telling me a mother can just forget she's dealing with the rapist of her daughter??? And can just kiss his ass and call him a "member of her family"?
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So, YES, then.
2011 falls in the 2 year gap where Kesha and Luke were getting along well.
Can you chill, btw? I clearly know more about the Kesha/Luke thing than you do.
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Oh and to the Miley fan who was stating that Kesha went to the hospital but somehow never heard of a rape kit. You actually did make that up.
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Pebe says that a friend of Kesha's picked Kesha up and drove her back to her *apartment. (Kesha never went to the hospital.)
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Source: http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...view-exclusive
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Originally posted by collin
I'm aware how it works, grandpa.
It's very obvious that the two should no longer be forced to work together.
I believe that the evidence of the events going on in the media could be enough to make that happen.
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I'm not really sure what the ageist dig was suppose to do but ok and i'm a girl by the way.
Well something "being obvious" isn't a legal reason to void a very profitable & binding contract and there is no evidence which is her biggest problem. The court is not gonna void a contract because two ppl can't work together especially when she's been offered the option of not working directly with Luke. And even Kesha knows that which is why she's playing the PR hoping, luke gets shook enough to let her go on her terms.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by collin
So, YES, then.
2011 falls in the 2 year gap where Kesha and Luke were getting along well.
Can you chill, btw? I clearly know more about the Kesha/Luke thing than you do.
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Are you kidding me?
I told you, actually posted snippets of Pebe's interview in which she said she knew of the rape immediatly, therefore back in 2005.
Yet 6 years later she writing and acting affectionate with her daughter's rapist.
And then 5 years after that, he's back to being a horrible raping monster.
You obviously DON'T know more than I do since so far I've backed everything I've written with actual quotes from Pebe herself.
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You guys stay telling us about understanding rape victims and trauma yet somehow find NOTHING unusual about a mother THANKING the rapist of her daughter for everything he did for her family and saying he's a member of their family.
If a family member you loved was raped and abused by someone, you're telling me you'd just "forget about it" during the "good years"?
Let me ****ing tell you, it's a trauma you don't forget for a day and you cannot pretend it never happened.
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Originally posted by Grumpy Gills
I'm not really sure what the ageist dig was suppose to do but ok and i'm a girl by the way.
Well something "being obvious" isn't a legal reason to void a very profitable & binding contract and there is no evidence which is her biggest problem. The court is not gonna void a contract because two ppl can't work together especially when she's been offered the option of not working directly with Luke. And even Kesha knows that which is why she's playing the PR hoping, luke gets shook enough to let her go on her terms.
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Mostly because the tone I got from your post was very finger-waggy, "let me show ya the ropes, kiddo!"
Anyways, you're right. I'm just dragging the people that are like "faked rape!!!!!! #SaveLuke"
because it's a tad ridiculous to act like he's a saint and deserves to be unscathed.
At the very least he did torment Kesha. He knows it, people even knew this far before her rehab stint.
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Member Since: 2/13/2012
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
Are you kidding me?
I told you, actually posted snippets of Pebe's interview in which she said she knew of the rape immediatly, therefore back in 2005.
Yet 6 years later she writing and acting affectionate with her daughter's rapist.
And then 5 years after that, he's back to being a horrible raping monster.
You obviously DON'T know more than I do since so far I've backed everything I've written with actual quotes from Pebe herself.
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You guys stay telling us about understanding rape victims and trauma yet somehow find NOTHING unusual about a mother THANKING the rapist of her daughter for everything he did for her family and saying he's a member of their family.
If a family member you loved was raped and abused by someone, you're telling me you'd just "forget about it" during the "good years"?
Let me ****ing tell you, it's a trauma you don't forget for a day and you cannot pretend it never happened.
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I think you're confused or something...?
I said there was a period where Kesha and Dr. Luke were on good terms.
2009-2011/12ish. Everything was healthy and decent between them then.
The abuse didn't really spark back up until 2012ish.
I remember fans talking to Pebe about it back then.
Of course she's thankful for him having kinda made Kesha into a huge star?
That's deffo something to be thankful for.
Sure, Luke and Kesha had the whole 2005 run-in, but things OBVIOUSLY changed.
It's much less one-note and simple than you want it to be.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by collin
Mostly because the tone I got from your post was very finger-waggy, "let me show ya the ropes, kiddo!"
Anyways, you're right. I'm just dragging the people that are like "faked rape!!!!!! #SaveLuke"
because it's a tad ridiculous to act like he's a saint and deserves to be unscathed.
At the very least he did torment Kesha. He knows it, people even knew this far before her rehab stint.
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Luke is a known asshole and he has a history of body shaming and being controlling, so you won't get any argument on that from me.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by jaker
Oh please. You know that Luke would still have the final say in her albums and career moves even if they're not directly seeing each other. After all the backlash he received, he could just turn down everything she wanted to release or do, just for revenge. I don't think it's fair to think she's doing a PR stunt based on her not wanting to leave her career on her alleged raper.
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Yes i logically know that, I was speaking from a legal point of view. Legally speaking without any evidence, the court can't consider her allegations of being raped as a fact. So luke & Sony''s offer that she doesn't have to work directly with him, because they don't personally get along is a fair compromise.
She is doing PR tho, and if i were her I'd too it too cuz it's her strongest strategy right now. Public backlash is not something Sony wants and while they can't force Luke to drop her, they can talk him into it.
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Some of you guys are so ignorant, it's baffling.
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I mean, she has the whole "I went to rehab, he bullied me into a mental disorder" thing for evidence.
A doctor said she could have died. I feel like this is enough to separate them legally. Guess not?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by collin
I mean, she has the whole "I went to rehab, he bullied me into a mental disorder" thing for evidence.
A doctor said she could have died. I feel like this is enough to separate them legally. Guess not?
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Honestly it should be, emotional abuse and distress is a solid legal leg to stand on and most ppl are super aware of how abusive he is in that regard.
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