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Discussion: Is Beyoncé the most vocally talented artist out right now?
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Originally posted by ClarksonSlays
Vocalist - One who treats their voice like an instrument, respecting the rules of vocal pedagogy.
Singer - One uses their voice like a musician and tells a story.
My point stands, Beyoncé is a better vocalist than Kelly.
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Technically, those are not the definitions which is why it didn't make sense to me initially. You can verify with a Google search.
But since you clarified what you mean s'all cool.
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Adele is not more vocally talented than Bey, lmao, Emotive, maybe yes but ,more talented vocally? Nah
I wanna hear Adele do I care, Love on top, Countdown, Dangerously in Love (to name a few) the way Beyonce slayed those runs, riffs, melismas, key changes etc. Yall love to discredit Bey so much
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Originally posted by RedRed
Adele is not more vocally talented than Bey, lmao, Emotive, maybe yes but ,more talented vocally? Nah
I wanna hear Adele do I care, Love on top, Countdown, Dangerously in Love (to name a few) the way Beyonce slyed those runs, riffs, melismas, key changes etc. Yall love to discredit Bey so much
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Plus Adele has terrible technique
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Originally posted by Jet
I understand where they're coming from tbh Adele and Gaga aren't BAD singers but they're no where in any league close to Bey's. Unfortunately they're very unidimensional vocalists with limited versatility especially Adele.
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Yeah, I actually find Adele's voice greatly overhyped these days.
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Originally posted by KCFan2014
No hard feelings here but you can bow out sis noone is stopping you  . Still won't change the fact that kelly is the better vocalist all around. What can Bey do that Kelly can't? Lipsynch? |
What Beyoncé can do:
She has a fully connected range from bottom to top, 4 octaves, F2-F6.
She has incredible breath support, sustaining passages in every area of her voice regardless of the choreo.
She carries far more resonance than Kelly in a majority of areas, Kelly only wins in passages from E5-A5, and even then Beyoncé could beat her on F5's.
She has FAR more agility than Kelly, Kelly's standard is her 5 note riff, while the longest I've heard her go is about 12 notes. Beyoncé could double that with twice the speed, and has also mastered roulades.
She has far more dynamic control, demonstrating this control in a wide variety of songs both between songs and in them. She's mastered crescendos and decrescendos and everything related to those two techniques.
She has far more control over her registers, being able to transition from head voice to chest voice and back to head voice with ease. She can start from head voice and crescendo into chest voice, which is a technique singers try for YEARS to master.
She has a far fuller head voice, that demonstrates operatic resonance. Kelly's head voice thins out above A5, and she lacks the accuracy Beyoncé does.
She also has a far better sense of intonation, she rarely falls off of her scales, and has mastered key changes IN songs that go up by SEMI-TONES. Kelly has never demonstrated more than ONE key change in a song, if even one.
But yes, Kelly can belt higher and has an F#6 under her belt, and sang live at the inauguration. There's no contest!
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Out of current mainstream singers, yes. By far.
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Originally posted by Johnny
Technically, those are not the definitions which is why it didn't make sense to me initially. You can verify with a Google search.
But since you clarified what you mean s'all cool.
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By definition, everyone who makes musical sounds as their profession is a singer. It encompasses both objective and subjective sides. Everyone would just laugh off if someone said Rebecca Black was a better singer than Ella Fitzgerald or Maria Callas, but between both singers who are technically proficient, albeit more so with one than the other, the opinion can and will vary from person to person.
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I mean, Beyonce is very talented. But I find her boring after a while.
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no other singer (male or female) could pull off the vocal acrobatics on countdown so yes
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Brandy is and then Bey.
Mainstream tho, yes.
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Originally posted by alkralkra
By definition, everyone who makes musical sounds as their profession is a singer. It encompasses both objective and subjective sides. Everyone would just laugh off if someone said Rebecca Black was a better singer than Ella Fitzgerald or Maria Callas, but between both singers who are technically proficient, albeit more so with one than the other, the opinion can and will vary from person to person.
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I know. That's not what I'm arguing.
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nnnngcvv Girl With those YODELS. I'm on the floor
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Originally posted by RedRed
Adele is not more vocally talented than Bey, lmao, Emotive, maybe yes but ,more talented vocally? Nah
I wanna hear Adele do I care, Love on top, Countdown, Dangerously in Love (to name a few) the way Beyonce slyed those runs, riffs, melismas, key changes etc. Yall love to discredit Bey so much
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I wouldn't even really argue that tho. Adele serves dark/somber emotions in spades; however, it's quite one dimensional. Emoting isn't just about who can best interpret sadness as sadness is only one emotion (people love limiting it to that tho for whatever reason). I've never heard a bright, blissful performance from Adele like Bey delivers with Love On Top or a frantic and rage filled like Ring The Alarm -- Bey has a broader emotive spectrum.
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Originally posted by ClarksonSlays
What Beyoncé can do:
She has a fully connected range from bottom to top, 4 octaves, F2-F6.
She has incredible breath support, sustaining passages in every area of her voice regardless of the choreo.
She carries far more resonance than Kelly in a majority of areas, Kelly only wins in passages from E5-A5, and even then Beyoncé could beat her on F5's.
She has FAR more agility than Kelly, Kelly's standard is her 5 note riff, while the longest I've heard her go is about 12 notes. Beyoncé could double that with twice the speed, and has also mastered roulades.
She has far more dynamic control, demonstrating this control in a wide variety of songs both between songs and in them. She's mastered crescendos and decrescendos and everything related to those two techniques.
She has far more control over her registers, being able to transition from head voice to chest voice and back to head voice with ease. She can start from head voice and crescendo into chest voice, which is a technique singers try for YEARS to master.
She has a far fuller head voice, that demonstrates operatic resonance. Kelly's head voice thins out above A5, and she lacks the accuracy Beyoncé does.
She also has a far better sense of intonation, she rarely falls off of her scales, and has mastered key changes IN songs that go up by SEMI-TONES. Kelly has never demonstrated more than ONE key change in a song, if even one.
But yes, Kelly can belt higher and has an F#6 under her belt, and sang live at the inauguration. There's no contest!
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Some saying Xtina  |
She embodies pure raw and vocal talent. She has one of the best instruments we have heard in the last few decades, so its actually a very solid answer and I definitely can see why she's being named. This thread is about vocal talent, not just skill or technical singing.
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