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Discussion: Will Britney ever tour again?
Member Since: 9/25/2011
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
Uhm even Britney her dates weren't sold-out and she's doing an exaggerated pop show performing her own songs :skull
There obviously was insane demand hence her doing ARENAS even worldwide for A JAZZ TOUR. The fact that she grossed 40M from 25 shows and yet "there's no demand"
Oh it would be quite.....embarrassing if it doesn't out gross Gaga her shortest tour yet. I mean PoM has been going for what 2/3 years now and with like what 200/300 dates, I don't see why it shouldn't do more than 80+M
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I mean small shows here and there, sure but the fact that she struggles to even fill up Vegas theaters is very worrying and speaks volume on her demand as a performer.
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Gaga couldn't even sell out one night at The Axis theatre when she played there earlier this year.
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Member Since: 9/25/2011
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Originally posted by Alexey
Air Canada Centre Toronto 21,239 / 21,239 (100%) $2,375,640
Sportpaleis Antwerp 11,868 / 11,868 (100%) $858,151
The O2 Arena London 26,550 / 26,550 (100%) $1,818,120
Staples Center Los Angeles 12,339 / 12,339 (100%) $1,581,707
Bell Centre Montreal 10,445 / 10,445 (100%) $942,113
Izod Center East Rutherford 15,274 / 15,274 (100%) $1,750,058
![Katie](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/e7c8e635.gif) The monsters are so fake! LMAO!
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They're upset Gaga's tour gross has declined with every tour. Notice how how you don't see many pressed Katy stans in here since their fave is still an an in-demand performer who can gross 100 million + on tour.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by B'Day
It's not about your age, it's also about whether you're in demand by the GP and if you're actually happy doing music and can keep up with the demands of touring and performing
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Younger age = more capability to do so (and at the very least more time to get her sh** together). If Britney wants to tour, she will make it happen. And there's a very high chance that she will want to even before this decade finishes. There will always be enough demand for her to go to main markets even if it's at smaller venues (I'm not gonna go into specifics here because I don't know much about touring, just general logic).
So, if the question is will Britney ever have a high grossing tour ever again, then the answer is maybe not. But she could always tour if she wants to.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by iheartBrit
They're upset Gaga's tour gross has declined with every tour. Notice how how you don't see many pressed Katy stans in here since their fave is still an an in-demand performer who can gross 100 million + on tour.
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Yeah, I bet Monsters are pressed that Lady Gaga can outgross Britney with fewer dates because more people want to see people live who can sing and interact with the audience.
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She is kinda touring atm.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Rusty
Really? You're going to try it with Gaga, an artist who has already outgrossed Britney with three tours and managed to earn the same amount as her residency in the first half of this year by going on a jazz tour with Tony Bennett? Her "struggled" tour outgrossed five of Britney's six tours.
Should have taken your own advice.
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The touring market has grown exponentially. The Little Monsters are the first to bring up a declining market and multiply their fave's sales, but when it comes to touring, suddenly that change doesn't matter
And her 25-date, global, smash tour grossed $13.1M from 13 shows whereas POM has grossed over $30M this year. I don't see how Gaga would hit the same numbers despite the Little Monsters wanting to brag about how successful her C2C tour is...only to get offended when people point out its actual gross and then start excusing it by stating it was a "jazz show."
OT: If Gaga can be the touring artist of a generation with a tour that grosses less than half of Britney's residency, clearly Britney can tour ![@michael.](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/micheal_zps45ccf519.gif)
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Rusty
Really? You're going to try it with Gaga, an artist who has already outgrossed Britney with three tours and managed to earn the same amount as her residency in the first half of this year by going on a jazz tour with Tony Bennett? Her "struggled" tour outgrossed five of Britney's six tours.
Should have taken your own advice.
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Omg
But really, female Fatale will probably be her biggest tour. I don't see her doing anything more than that in future especially when she is failing to fill up theaters with much smaller capacity than most touring arenas worldwide
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Eternium
The touring market has grown exponentially. The Little Monsters are the first to bring up a declining market and multiply their fave's sales, but when it comes to touring, suddenly that change doesn't matter
And her 25-date, global, smash tour grossed $13.1M from 13 shows whereas POM has grossed over $30M this year. I don't see how Gaga would hit the same numbers despite the Little Monsters wanting to brag about how successful her C2C tour is...only to get offended when people point out its actual gross and then start excusing it by stating it was a "jazz show."
OT: If Gaga can be the touring artist of a generation with a tour that grosses less than half of Britney's residency, clearly Britney can tour ![@michael.](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/micheal_zps45ccf519.gif)
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I'm curious on why you don't compare her pop concerts to Britney's?
and how many shows did it take for Britney to gross these $30m?
OT: Never.
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Bounce being the highest poster in another Britney thread ![JonnyϟLightning](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/jonny_zpsc73391c5.png) just come to the base, sis!
OT: Of course!
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Eternium
The touring market has grown exponentially. The Little Monsters are the first to bring up a declining market and multiply their fave's sales, but when it comes to touring, suddenly that change doesn't matter
And her 25-date, global, smash tour grossed $13.1M from 13 shows whereas POM has grossed over $30M this year. I don't see how Gaga would hit the same numbers despite the Little Monsters wanting to brag about how successful her C2C tour is...only to get offended when people point out its actual gross and then start excusing it by stating it was a "jazz show."
OT: If Gaga can be the touring artist of a generation with a tour that grosses less than half of Britney's residency, clearly Britney can tour ![@michael.](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/micheal_zps45ccf519.gif)
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C2C has numbers from Pollstar of $13M for 20 shows in the same period as Brit's first set of 32 shows this year which rank it at the same gross. We don't have the full-year numbers for the C2C tour like you seem to have for Brit's residency. Sorry, but let's not here - the market has grown outside of inflation, no doubt, but Gaga's gone above and beyond managing half a billion in touring from her first three headlining tours. And the fact that this literally was a jazz tour - many dates were jazz festivals, and the venues were theatres and concert halls - that's pretty impressive. Even in her finished pop era she approached almost $90M in touring receipts.
Britney's touring isn't that strong. I never said here she couldn't tour, I think she could, but wouldn't manage her FF gross with the same dates if she announced in the morning.
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Yes.
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Originally posted by Lucyyyyyyyyy
Bounce being the highest poster in another Britney thread ![JonnyϟLightning](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/jonny_zpsc73391c5.png) just come to the base, sis!
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the time investment ![toofunny2](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/faces/toofunny2_zpsb54f2d2d.gif)
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Originally posted by Rusty
C2C has numbers from Pollstar of $13M for 20 shows in the same period as Brit's first set of 32 shows this year which rank it at the same gross. We don't have the full-year numbers for the C2C tour like you seem to have for Brit's residency. Sorry, but let's not here - the market has grown outside of inflation, no doubt, but Gaga's gone above and beyond managing half a billion in touring from her first three headlining tours. And the fact that this literally was a jazz tour - many dates were jazz festivals, and the venues were theatres and concert halls - that's pretty impressive. Even in her finished pop era she approached almost $90M in touring receipts.
Britney's touring isn't that strong. I never said here she couldn't tour, I think she could, but wouldn't manage her FF gross with the same dates if she announced in the morning.
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Britney grossed 8m+ with 20 shows.
Gaga did 13m.
OT: No.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Definitely not. Britney's never been great with touring
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Member Since: 9/4/2008
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I love Britney and would love to see her live again, but sadly I don't see her touring again unless she has some kind of big career reinvention.
The millenials that wanted to see her comeback went to see her live during Circus/Femme Fatale eras for the sake of nostalgia and I don't think they'll be back for more because her heart wasn't in it during those shows and you could really tell.
I feel like she's happy in Vegas because she can be with her family and it's not too exhausting, so why disturb her anyway?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Bounce
I'm curious on why you don't compare her pop concerts to Britney's?
and how many shows did it take for Britney to gross these $30m?
OT: Never.
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My calendar says 2015. I compared Britney's 2015 gross to another gross that earlier in this thread you referred to as a global success. Why the backtracking? You think Britney can't tour, but she seems to outgross global world tours with a Vegas residency in its second year. Why is that?
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Originally posted by Rusty
C2C has numbers from Pollstar of $13M for 20 shows in the same period as Brit's first set of 32 shows this year which rank it at the same gross. We don't have the full-year numbers for the C2C tour like you seem to have for Brit's residency. Sorry, but let's not here - the market has grown outside of inflation, no doubt, but Gaga's gone above and beyond managing half a billion in touring from her first three headlining tours. And the fact that this literally was a jazz tour - many dates were jazz festivals, and the venues were theatres and concert halls - that's pretty impressive. Even in her finished pop era she approached almost $90M in touring receipts.
Britney's touring isn't that strong. I never said here she couldn't tour, I think she could, but wouldn't manage her FF gross with the same dates if she announced in the morning.
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20 shows? I thought that $13.1M number was supposed to be for 13 shows
I didn't ever say that Gaga was a flop or bash her touring. On the contrary, I pointed out that Gaga is held as a touring standard by posters like you and Bounce yet certain users want to argue Britney can't tour despite her residency in its second year outperforming a full Gaga tour. I think you're taking offense that I included Gaga in my posts, but it's only because certain Gaga stans were hypocritical of what they consider touring power to be.
And I wouldn't rule Britney's touring power out yet. Just about every artist's touring goes up after Vegas because they build up demand. Britney's definitely no Madonna, but there's no reason to count her out when she will gross $100M+ from one theater.
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Originally posted by Bounce
Britney grossed 8m+ with 20 shows.
Gaga did 13m.
OT: No.
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...In the second year of a Vegas residency.
Gaga would tour longer if she had the demand. See: The Fame Ball being extended, The Monster Ball being extended, BTW being scheduled for forever, etc. The "but she only did 13 show" excuse would only work if there was demand for her to do more shows like there's demand for Britney to continuously add dates to her Vegas residency all while getting pay increases along the way.
Btw, POM is already at $67M and will easily outgross Gaga's "global" ARTrave despite being a residency.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Eternium
Gaga would tour longer if she had the demand. See: The Fame Ball being extended, The Monster Ball being extended, BTW being scheduled for forever, etc. The "but she only did 13 show" excuse would only work if there was demand for her to do more shows like there's demand for Britney to continuously add dates to her Vegas residency all while getting pay increases along the way.
Btw, POM is already at $67M and will easily outgross Gaga's "global" ARTrave despite being a residency.
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So you're saying Britney has demand and Gaga doesn't?
and how many dates will POM out-gross the artrave by then? 300? 400?
OT: Nope.
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Originally posted by Eternium
Btw, POM is already at $67M and will easily outgross Gaga's "global" ARTrave despite being a residency.
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I can see why a certain fanbase is fuming in here.
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