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News: Gaza Under Attack, Israel Launches
Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by HausOfCarlos
And that's EXACTLY what I said a few posts ago. I don't blame current Israeli people for what happened in the past, what I'm angry about is Israeli people just acting as if they are the only victims.
The Palestine/Israel territory needs one common government which doesn't affiliate itself with any religion and unites the people living there now as people who came later on can't be suddenly deported or anything. But obviously, both sides are too ****ed up atm to see the light.
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Seriously we need more people like you and less people like our prime minister
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by Gouldkaty
you know what? you are absolutely right. I agree.
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I'm glad to see this.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Nonchalant
I see no one read the article. It was a retaliatory attack, and they're not deliberately targeting civilians unlike Hamas.
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by HausOfCarlos
And that's EXACTLY what I said a few posts ago. I don't blame current Israeli people for what happened in the past, what I'm angry about is Israeli people just acting as if they are the only victims.
The Palestine/Israel territory needs one common government which doesn't affiliate itself with any religion and unites the people living there now as people who came later on can't be suddenly deported or anything. But obviously, both sides are too ****ed up atm to see the light.
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nnnn Israel is the only Jewish state. The rest of the middle east are Muslim countries. Don't think they'll stop at just Israel. Islam is a huge religion with many followers. We could live is an Islamic world the way we could have lived in an Aryan world if Hitler had his way. In that case I wouldn't even be here right now. Neither would you if you're gay (I assume). Many Muslim countries view the world differently than let's say an American views it. Such as in Saudi Arabia where a young man is being crucified for not sharing the same views as Muslims.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by vamp
nnnn Israel is the only Jewish state. The rest of the middle east are Muslim countries. Don't think they'll stop at just Israel. Islam is a huge religion with many followers. We could live is an Islamic world the way we could have lived in an Aryan world if Hitler had his way. In that case I wouldn't even be here right now. Neither would you if you're gay (I assume). Many Muslim countries view the world differently than let's say an American views it. Such as in Saudi Arabia where a young man is being crucified for not sharing the same views as Muslims.
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But have you been to arabic countries? I've visited a lot of them. Young people in Lebanon and the UAE in particular and sometimes in Qatar, Bahrain and so on tend to have a more liberal point of view. Saudi Arabia is really a bad example to give because it definitely is the only country in the region that is so harsh and even young people there are getting more and more open minded. I'm not closeted, I'm open about my sexuality and everyone knows about it now yet I live in the UAE, and no one cares. It's not as conservative/closed minded as people tend to make it look like, even if still is in a way and that should change.
The reason why I think a No-Religions state should be placed in Palestine/Israel is because I simply don't support governments that affiliate with religions, the US for example should separate Christianity from the government more.
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by HausOfCarlos
But have you been to arabic countries? I've visited a lot of them. Young people in Lebanon and the UAE in particular and sometimes in Qatar, Bahrain and so on tend to have a more liberal point of view. Saudi Arabia is really a bad example to give because it definitely is the only country in the region that is so harsh and even young people there are getting more and more open minded. I'm not closeted, I'm open about my sexuality and everyone knows about it now yet I live in the UAE, and no one cares. It's not as conservative/closed minded as people tend to make it look like, even if still is in a way and that should change.
The reason why I think a No-Religions state should be placed in Palestine/Israel is because I simply don't support governments that affiliate with religions, the US for example should separate Christianity from the government more.
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Come on stop. Saudi Arabia is not the only country that is harsh. Maybe you should visit Syria
Jews were kicked out of many Muslim countries. Just because you're safe in the UAE, Jews are not. They only have one place to go in your region. Jews had to flee Iran just like Syrians are fleeing Syria. Those who were exiled from their home countries weren't Muslim. Many religions were accepted in the middle east until the new regime took over. If you're happy with that then you don't know anything.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by CakeLike
So terrorists launch rockets in israel and israel responds by bombing civilians instead of dealing with those who did the crime. I don't see how anyone would be ok with this but i guess when you are used to using deaths of innocent Palestinians for political reasons it will seem ok to yu
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yes hun tell them
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by devotedtokesha
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How would they bomb civilians? They have advanced weaponry to pinpoint the terrorist's locations. Sometimes they would make civilians go on the rooftops of the homes of terrorist so that Israel doesn't bomb them and every time, Israel opted out to not bomb those building. Every single time.
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Member Since: 6/15/2010
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Originally posted by Gouldkaty
you are right, it is not okay what the israeli people did, but it wasn't me back there 67 years ago, if it was me I wouldn't steal people's lands. but it was 67 years ago, you can't blame us for what happened 67 years ago, things change and we need to live at the moment and be realistic, because those lands can't be given back, it's too late.
Anyway, something that happened 67 years ago isn't a reason for terror. Hamas needs to calm down and make peace, but they actually don't want peace, althought they had a lot of chances.
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Your government should pay.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by vamp
Come on stop. Saudi Arabia is not the only country that is harsh. Maybe you should visit Syria
Jews were kicked out of many Muslim countries. Just because you're safe in the UAE, Jews are not. They only have one place to go in your region. Jews had to flee Iran just like Syrians are fleeing Syria. Those who were exiled from their home countries weren't Muslim. Many religions were accepted in the middle east until the new regime took over. If you're happy with that then you don't know anything.
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But again I don't support Religious governments which is why I'd want the new state to not support any religion, that also resolve the issue about whether or not the territory belongs to a rleigion or another while it belongs to the people that live there and not religion necessarily. I do get what you mean by Jews needing some safe haven but at the same time I don't think any governments should support any religion, Israeli people shouldn't necessarily be Jewish either.
I don't support the governments in the Middle east either and I don't think people would accept Jewish people back easily but what I mean is that mentalities are getting better and that people aren't as closed minded as some yall make them sound, as said I'm openly gay yet accepted which means that they still can end up accepting Jews one day. And Syria is a mess right now so I don't get why you're bringing it up, Saudi Arabia and Maybe Yemen are the only ones that are truly terrifying. I'm citing the UAE as a example to show that those countries will still end up getting better with time.
I don't see an issue with not-religious governments as they are supposed to accept ALL religions and don't base their decisions on a certain mentality/style of life.
Also I know I'm a bit reaching, but that doesn't mean that the government in place should be oriented towards a certain religion.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by HausOfCarlos
But again I don't support Religious governments which is why I'd want the new state to not support any religion, that also resolve the issue about whether or not the territory belongs to a rleigion or another while it belongs to the people that live there and not religion necessarily. I do get what you mean by Jews needing some safe haven but at the same time I don't think any governments should support any religion, Israeli people shouldn't necessarily be Jewish either.
I don't support the governments in the Middle east either and I don't think people would accept Jewish people back easily but what I mean is that mentalities are getting better and that people aren't as closed minded as some yall make them sound, as said I'm openly gay yet accepted which means that they still can end up accepting Jews one day. And Syria is a mess right now so I don't get why you're bringing it up, Saudi Arabia and Maybe Yemen are the only ones that are truly terrifying. I'm citing the UAE as a example to show that those countries will still end up getting better with time.
Also I know I'm a bit reaching, but that doesn't mean that the government in place should be oriented towards a certain religion.
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MTE israel palestine should have no religion ruling or having priority over the other. 1 state for all people, jewish or muslim or whatever else with equal rights. Any palestinians who are denied the right of return should be allowed back to their homes. Having religion as the ruling factor in a country will never be good, same goes for muslim countries like saudi
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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why tho... they just can't learn from history
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by CakeLike
MTE israel palestine should have no religion ruling or having priority over the other. 1 state for all people, jewish or muslim or whatever else with equal rights. Any palestinians who are denied the right of return should be allowed back to their homes. Having religion as the ruling factor in a country will never be good, same goes for muslim countries like saudi
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Yes
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by HausOfCarlos
But again I don't support Religious governments which is why I'd want the new state to not support any religion, that also resolve the issue about whether or not the territory belongs to a rleigion or another while it belongs to the people that live there and not religion necessarily. I do get what you mean by Jews needing some safe haven but at the same time I don't think any governments should support any religion, Israeli people shouldn't necessarily be Jewish either.
I don't support the governments in the Middle east either and I don't think people would accept Jewish people back easily but what I mean is that mentalities are getting better and that people aren't as closed minded as some yall make them sound, as said I'm openly gay yet accepted which means that they still can end up accepting Jews one day. And Syria is a mess right now so I don't get why you're bringing it up, Saudi Arabia and Maybe Yemen are the only ones that are truly terrifying. I'm citing the UAE as a example to show that those countries will still end up getting better with time.
I don't see an issue with not-religious governments as they are supposed to accept ALL religions and don't base their decisions on a certain mentality/style of life.
Also I know I'm a bit reaching, but that doesn't mean that the government in place should be oriented towards a certain religion.
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Yet you live in one. Also Israel is comprised of many religions. Did you know there are different corridors in Jerusalem: Christian, Palestinian, Armenian, and Jewish. They also have a mosque there which is conveniently located on the ruins of Solomon's Temple. Their Koran was also written by Jews. Don't talk out of your butt.
So it's okay for Muslim countries to eradicate Jews.. and now Christians, but not the other way around. Except Israel doesn't even do that.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by vamp
Yet you live in one.
So it's okay for Muslim countries to eradicate Jews.. and now Christians, but not the other way around. Except Israel doesn't even do that.
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No one is saying muslim countries eradicating jews and christians is not bad, it is just as bad as jews eradicating muslims or any other religious group persecuting another.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by CakeLike
No one is saying muslim countries eradicating jews and christians is not bad, it is just as bad as jews eradicating muslims or any other religious group persecuting another.
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Yeah I also said that I didn't support any of that mess
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by CakeLike
No one is saying muslim countries eradicating jews and christians is not bad, it is just as bad as jews eradicating muslims or any other religious group persecuting another.
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Yet they don't do that.
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by HausOfCarlos
Yeah I also said that I didn't support any of that mess
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Then why do you live in a country that does?
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by CakeLike
MTE israel palestine should have no religion ruling or having priority over the other. 1 state for all people, jewish or muslim or whatever else with equal rights. Any palestinians who are denied the right of return should be allowed back to their homes. Having religion as the ruling factor in a country will never be good, same goes for muslim countries like saudi
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Palestinians are also in Israel tho.
Christians, Muslims, Armenians too. It's an open country anyone can enter there.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by vamp
Then why do you live in a country that does?
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How does me supporting/not supporting certain actions need to affect where I live? If I lived base don that I wouldn't live here for way more simple reasons. I live here because of the advantages it gives, do I support a certain mentality that is present among some of the population? no.
+I'm underage so I don't even get to choose where I live yet so
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