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Celeb News: "Rihanna's hot cause she's not too dark" says ex-accountant
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Originally posted by Miss me with that
Lol girl bye, Nars is a FRENCH department store makeup brand created by FRENCH celebrity makeup artist François Nars. It is now owned by Shiseido just like Tom Ford is owned by Estée Lauder. Comparing it to Target, I can't even..
And Lupita looks black and African, period. It's actually pretty terrifying that anytime something/someone's great it HAS to be because white ppl were somehow involved. Like do you guys even realize ?!?
All my prayers to any black girl trying to make it in the industry, you're seriously gonna need them.
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That's how a lot of people outside this forum think though, unfortunately.
I assumed incorrectly that Lupita's stunning looks were attributed to some past European influence...I was wrong about that, but that is how this "Eurocentric" focused society teaches people to perceive things, sadly.
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Originally posted by Damien M
So, according to this thread,
1. Lupita Nyongo looks European. Actually if you put her next to a Swedish girl you can't tell the difference!
2. Rihanna looks like a girl from Barcelona, Spain (let's just disregard her huge forehead, her African nose + lips). She could pass for European, def.
3. Naomi Campbell looks Chinese.
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People on this site either don't go outside much/have no friends or have really low IQs (or both). I can't believe what I'm reading.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by Miss me with that
Lol girl bye, Nars is a FRENCH department store makeup brand created by FRENCH celebrity makeup artist François Nars. It is now owned by Shiseido just like Tom Ford is owned by Estée Lauder. Comparing it to Target, I can't even..
And Lupita looks black and African, period. It's actually pretty terrifying that anytime something/someone's great it HAS to be because white ppl were somehow involved. Like do you guys even realize ?!?
All my prayers to any black girl trying to make it in the industry, you're seriously gonna need them.
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LOOOOOL BYE!!!!!!! Nars is not French nor is it luxury brand. It was launched in NY. The founder is French......
And LOL people still think Lupita looks like your everyday black and African girl?...okay.
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INCREDIBLY racist and offensive
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Originally posted by JesusORGod
LOOOOOL BYE!!!!!!! Nars is not French nor is it luxury brand. It was launched in NY. The founder is French......
And LOL people still think Lupita looks like your everyday black and African girl?...okay.
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Just like I said, Nars is a department store brand, on the same level as Mac, Bobbi Brown.. with a little less name recognition than Mac, it is very prestigious and not some basic drugstore ish. I said it was French because M. Nars surrounded himself with French advisers when he started it, even though he was in NY for the money. Call it American if you want, it is still no freakin Target (not that there's anything wrong with Target because the most lucrative deals for models are usually for cheap basic stuff like Maybelline..).
And yes Lupita looks like the African girl that she proudly is, certainly not the average girl next door cos she is drop dead gorgeous, but in terms of ethnicity she is your average East-African black girl. I don't even see how you can try and deny this.
If a white girl is super beautiful, she is just beautiful, if anyone else is, ppl wil talk about how she looks "Caucasian" or this or that.. it's truly sad.
Basically you're just proving everybody's point.
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Originally posted by JesusORGod
LOOOOOL BYE!!!!!!! Nars is not French nor is it luxury brand. It was launched in NY. The founder is French......
And LOL people still think Lupita looks like your everyday black and African girl?...okay.
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The hell does she look like then?
And Africa doesn't even have a uniform look so again how can she not look like an African girl?
Just because YOU are ignorant doesn't mean others are.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by Miss me with that
Just like I said, Nars is a department store brand, on the same level as Mac, Bobbi Brown.. with a little less name recognition than Mac, it is very prestigious and not some basic drugstore ish. I said it was French because M. Nars surrounded himself with French advisers when he started it, even though he was in NY for the money. Call it American if you want, it is still no freakin Target (not that there's anything wrong with Target because the most lucrative deals for models are usually for cheap basic stuff like Maybelline..).
And yes Lupita looks like the African girl that she proudly is, certainly not the average girl next door cos she is drop dead gorgeous, but in terms of ethnicity she is your average East-African black girl. I don't even see how you can try and deny this.
If a white girl is super beautiful, she is just beautiful, if anyone else is, ppl wil talk about how she looks "Caucasian" or this or that.. it's truly sad.
Basically you're just proving everybody's point.
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It's still not French.
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Originally posted by JesusORGod
It's still not French.
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Which is why I said call it American if you want...
My point still stands.
I'll have to renew my prayers to all the non-white girls in the industry, so many people refuse to acknowledge the issue and go on meaningless tangents to avoid the topic..
Rihanna still wins.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by Miss me with that
Which is why I said call it American if you want....
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I will call it what it is- American.
Lancome and Nars are not the same thing.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
Not really trying to save face...I just made the assumption like most of the general population would, that based on European Colonialism in Africa that is where Lupita got her distinct facial features from. And like a reasonable person, I admitted I was wrong.
That is kinda true, I'm afraid. The same thing applies to Asians as well.
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You made that assumption like the general population because you share the same ignorance as them. Like I already said, you associate good looks with western features, which is why you thought Lupita was mixed. That's predictable, but then you even claimed she looked Anglo. That's not even logical.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
You're kinda a snippy bitch aren't cha?
Basic text books don't get into all the sub groups on the Indian continent, hun...all they teach about is the basic caste system, and all the lighter skinned Indians get the good jobs and wealth, and all the dark skinned ones live in trash, and clean the sewer gutters. Actually, the lighter skinned Indians do have some European ancestry...that dates back to Alexander the Great's forces foray into the Indian subcontinent.
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It's not really hard to be a condescending bitch when you're so uneducated on a topic and proudly say things as if they're facts without any real knowledge. And you're STILL doing it.
I'm aware that basic American text books don't cover what the caste system is, which is why I'm trying to educate you. I'm South Asian so I think I would know. In fact, I can look at Asian surnames and make a really accurate guess about the person's class and family history just by looking at the name. More of your pseudo-intellectualism:
1) All the darker skinned Indians live in trash and the light skinned Indians are wealthy? Like these Rajasthani beggar girls with light skin, light eyes and light hair prostituting themselves?
Or the Indians you see abroad who are educated and have money that are all dark skinned? Every Indian in Silicon Valley are dark skinned Tamils and Telugu people and often darker than black people. Being high caste does NOT magically make you light skinned. It depends on your race/ethnicity. Obviously people from Tamil Nadu or Andhra Pradesh will likely to be dark. And now I'm realizing you probably don't even know where Rajasthan or Tamil Nadu is. Anyway... I already answered why so many high caste people are light. It's a desirable trait and they go out of their way to find a "fair" wife so it shouldn't be surprising that so many of them are light.
2) Lighter skinned Indians have European ancestry? Is this a joke?
First, lighter Indians are of Central Asian ancestry. They traveled into ancient South Asia from the area that's modern day Iran and the darker Indians are of Austronesian ancestry (like Australian Aboriginals) and traveled from the Pacific, into Southeast Asia. Then there's also Mongoloid ancestry from the eastern parts of South Asia, which is why Indian boxer Mary Kom looks so East Asian.
Second, Alexander's army stopped in what's modern day western Pakistan, not India. Even if they did heavily mix with locals (which isn't likely because there was no settlement there), how would it effect the gene pool of South Asia, especially all the way into India? This whole discussion was about the caste system and it's common knowledge people marry within their caste so local gene pools retain their ancestry.
Like I keep saying, you really don't know what you're talking about.stop lurking on those pseudo-intellectual ancestry forums and read actual published journals.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
I did cackle a bit at this ^ A large majority of white people DO people think like that though ^
Admit it...Lupita, Rihanna, and Naomi don't have what most normal, everyday real world people believe to be traditional African looks. And most normal, everyday real world people (who have Eurocentric beauty standards) would be more apt to attribute their beauty to having a white admixture at some point in their ancestry.
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Oh please.
I'm a "normal, everyday real world" person, and I don't equate any of my looks to having white admixture. Black is not a monolith, and doesn't have one look. We come in different skin tones, have different hair textures etc. News Flash... you can be beautiful AND Black/ beautiful and non-white.
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Rihanna is darker than half of my family...
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by Priyanka Chopra
You made that assumption like the general population because you share the same ignorance as them. Like I already said, you associate good looks with western features, which is why you thought Lupita was mixed. That's predictable, but then you even claimed she looked Anglo. That's not even logical.
It's not really hard to be a condescending bitch when you're so uneducated on a topic and proudly say things as if they're facts without any real knowledge. And you're STILL doing it.
I'm aware that basic American text books don't cover what the caste system is, which is why I'm trying to educate you. I'm South Asian so I think I would know. In fact, I can look at Asian surnames and make a really accurate guess about the person's class and family history just by looking at the name. More of your pseudo-intellectualism:
1) All the darker skinned Indians live in trash and the light skinned Indians are wealthy? Like these Rajasthani beggar girls with light skin, light eyes and light hair prostituting themselves?
Or the Indians you see abroad who are educated and have money that are all dark skinned? Every Indian in Silicon Valley are dark skinned Tamils and Telugu people and often darker than black people. Being high caste does NOT magically make you light skinned. It depends on your race/ethnicity. Obviously people from Tamil Nadu or Andhra Pradesh will likely to be dark. And now I'm realizing you probably don't even know where Rajasthan or Tamil Nadu is. Anyway... I already answered why so many high caste people are light. It's a desirable trait and they go out of their way to find a "fair" wife so it shouldn't be surprising that so many of them are light.
2) Lighter skinned Indians have European ancestry? Is this a joke?
First, lighter Indians are of Central Asian ancestry. They traveled into ancient South Asia from the area that's modern day Iran and the darker Indians are of Austronesian ancestry (like Australian Aboriginals) and traveled from the Pacific, into Southeast Asia. Then there's also Mongoloid ancestry from the eastern parts of South Asia, which is why Indian boxer Mary Kom looks so East Asian.
Second, Alexander's army stopped in what's modern day western Pakistan, not India. Even if they did heavily mix with locals (which isn't likely because there was no settlement there), how would it effect the gene pool of South Asia, especially all the way into India? This whole discussion was about the caste system and it's common knowledge people marry within their caste so local gene pools retain their ancestry.
Like I keep saying, you really don't know what you're talking about.stop lurking on those pseudo-intellectual ancestry forums and read actual published journals.
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I never said Lupita was Anglo...I said her features would lead one to assume she had some Anglo ancestry.
I was just letting you know you can espouse your knowledge without being "holier than thou".
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Originally posted by Mannequin.Dummy
Oh please.
I'm a "normal, everyday real world" person, and I don't equate any of my looks to having white admixture. Black is not a monolith, and doesn't have one look. We come in different skin tones, have different hair textures etc. News Flash... you can be beautiful AND Black/ beautiful and non-white.
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It depends on what you look like, tbh.
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How in the WORLD does Lupita look European? Her nose, her lips, her hair, her body shape, her skin colour (!!!) scream Africa. Mess at a drop dead gorgeous black woman from Africa making people deny reality.
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Originally posted by JesusORGod
I will call it what it is- American.
Lancome and Nars are not the same thing.
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Lancôme makeup and Nars are actually sold at the same department stores.
Target and Nars are not the same thing yes indeed.
My point still stands.
I'm done with the derailing, won't be entertaining this anymore.
This thread is really cool imo as it goes to show you what kind of prejudice girls have to overcome in pop culture if they're not white. There's another thread about Asian artists in the West so at least people are aware of the issue.
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Originally posted by Homebrand
Shes just as beautiful even when shes really tanned from vacationing but ok
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Lol thats a tan. Not a dark brown hue like say someone like me. Theres a whole cardboard spectrum in the black community
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Originally posted by Homebrand
Shes just as beautiful even when shes really tanned from vacationing but ok
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terrible glad she dropped him
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Originally posted by Homebrand
Shes just as beautiful even when shes really tanned from vacationing but ok
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sexy!
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Ciara is darker and hotter for me.
But this comment is disgusting.
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