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Poll: Bigger era: 1989 vs. IASF
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View Poll Results: Bigger era:
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Taylor Swift - 1989
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57.14% |
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Beyonce - I am... Sasha Fierce
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78 |
39.80% |
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
Sasha is still more successful and global though, you're dismissed
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Great clock, very receipts, much drag.
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1989 has outsold IASF, has higher streams and has a bigger tour.
IASF has higher single sales for now.
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Originally posted by ClarksonSlays
Here's a country by country breakdown. Keep in mind:
1. 1989 has been out for 8 months, IASF has been out for 7 years.
2. Sales have decreased WW by about 50% from 2008-2015.
1989 vs. IASF
WW: 7,400,000 / 7,900,000
USA: 4,990,000 / 3,170,000
UK: 715,000 / 1,585,000
Canada: 420,000 / 260,000
Australia: 370,000 / 275,000
Japan: 225,000 / 193,000
Germany: 150,000 / 225,000
Mexico: 90,000 / 20,000
Ireland: 60,000 / 110,000
Brazil: 55,000 / 500,000
France: 50,000/ 115,000
New Zealand: 45,000 / 30,000
China: 30,000 / 15,000
Spain: 20,000 / 80,000
Sweden: 20,000 / 75,000
Argentina: 20,000 / 15,000
Austria: 15,000 / 15,000
Hong Kong: 15,000 / 7,500
Italy: 14,000 / 94,000
Poland: 10,000 / 80,000
Indonesia: 10,000 / 80,000
Taiwan: 10,000 / 14,000
South Korea: 8,000 / 20,000
Austria: 7,500 / 15,000
Malaysia: 7,500 / 20,000
India: 6,000 / 15,000
Thailand: 5,000 / 15,000
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So Sasha outsold 1989 in more countries that 1989 outsold Sasha, and by a much bigger margin, it seems 
Sasha wins 
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
South America: Sasha
Europe: Sasha
Africa: Sasha
Now the thing is, 1989 and Sasha stats are close in Oceania and Asia (80-100k difference) whereas 1989 was demolished in Europe and SA 
Sasha was bigger + more global + is more memorable so yeah, Beyoncé wins  |
Taylor's lead in North America is greater than Beyonce's lead in South America, Europe and Africa combined 
On top of that, Bey's lead in Africa is almost nonexistent due to their weak market and Taylor is still shifting units in Souther America and Europe.
Taylor will end up outselling Beyonce practically everywhere by the end of the year
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Originally posted by Eternium
Taylor's lead in North America is greater than Beyonce's lead in South America, Europe and Africa combined
On top of that, Bey's lead in Africa is almost nonexistent due to their weak market and Taylor is still shifting units in Souther America and Europe
Taylor will end up outselling Beyonce practically everywhere by the end of the year |
No, she won't
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IA..SF. No question about it. Single Ladies alone is bigger than the 1989 era.
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Those Beyoncé sales, I knew Mexico didn't care much for Beyoncé but 20,000 for her most successful album? Even Selena Gomez sells more than that there. 
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UK: 715,000 / 1,585,000
Germany: 150,000 / 225,000
Ireland: 60,000 / 110,000
Brazil: 55,000 / 500,000
France: 50,000/ 115,000
Spain: 20,000 / 80,000
Sweden: 20,000 / 75,000
Italy: 14,000 / 94,000
Poland: 10,000 / 80,000
Indonesia: 10,000 / 80,000
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
Those Beyoncé sales, I knew Mexico didn't care much for Beyoncé but 20,000 for her most successful album? Even Selena Gomez sells more than that there. |
'Even' Selena Gomez... Who is a Mexican?
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
No, she won't |
Did you miss ClarksonSlay's helpful chart? Taylor's already outperformed Bey practically everywhere and her album still has at least one single left.
If it gets a re-release like IA...SF had, she will create a huge gap between the two albums. There's literally 0 argument for IA...SF being the bigger era.
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Originally posted by Golden
'Even' Selena Gomez... Who is a Mexican?
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Well, also every other popstar. I believe even Robbie Williams who is an UK based act has had an album that's sold more than that there. But anyway that's off-topic, I think it's kind of a tie between 1989 and IASF.
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
So Sasha outsold 1989 in more countries that 1989 outsold Sasha, and by a much bigger margin, it seems
Sasha wins |
Dear lord you have a really thick skull don't you?
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Originally posted by Eternium
Did you miss ClarksonSlay's helpful chart? Taylor's already outperformed Bey practically everywhere and her album still has at least one single left.
If it gets a re-release like IA...SF had, she will create a huge gap between the two albums. There's literally 0 argument for IA...SF being the bigger era.
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No, but you sure did
Germany: 150,000 / 225,000
Ireland: 60,000 / 110,000
Brazil: 55,000 / 500,000
France: 50,000/ 115,000
Spain: 20,000 / 80,000
Sweden: 20,000 / 75,000
Italy: 14,000 / 94,000
Poland: 10,000 / 80,000
Indonesia: 10,000 / 80,000
She ain't doing it, kid
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Originally posted by ClarksonSlays
Dear lord you have a really thick skull don't you?
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This 2008-2015 is embarrassing and it's not cute, stop
OT: Sasha was bigger as the stats shows
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
No, but you sure did
Germany: 150,000 / 225,000
Ireland: 60,000 / 110,000
Brazil: 55,000 / 500,000
France: 50,000/ 115,000
Spain: 20,000 / 80,000
Sweden: 20,000 / 75,000
Italy: 14,000 / 94,000
Poland: 10,000 / 80,000
Indonesia: 10,000 / 80,000
She ain't doing it, kid
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Mess at you ignoring the fact that sales have declined 50% from IASF to 1989 and Taylor's album has been out for 12% of the time IASF has, and her streaming number still obviously crush IASF. Have fun playing around with the sales figures for those 9 countries tho sis.
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Originally posted by ClarksonSlays
Mess at you ignoring the fact that sales have declined 50% from IASF to 1989 and Taylor's album has been out for 12% of the time IASF has, and her streaming number still obviously crush IASF. Have fun playing around with the sales figures for those 9 countries tho sis.
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Sasha still outsold it globally though? Therefore it is more successful globally/overall? This is what this thread is asking, why can't you just answer the simple question? There's not "but's".
You can adjust sales, but you can't adjust IMPACT, sorry, no one in the real world cares about "50% decline!1!1!". Sasha is more global + successful + impactful, deal with it, darling, and stop wasting your time
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
Sasha still outsold it globally though? Therefore it is more successful globally/overall? This is what this thread is asking, why can't you just answer the simple question? There's not "but's".
You can adjust sales, but you can't adjust IMPACT, sorry, no one in the real world cares about "50% decline!1!1!". Sasha is more global + successful + impactful, deal with it, darling, and stop wasting your time
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So what will you be saying at the end of the year when 1989 outsells IASF worldwide then?
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Originally posted by ClarksonSlays
So what will you be saying at the end of the year when 1989 outsells IASF worldwide then?
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Will she outsell it outside of the US though? Guess not
Therefore Sasha will still be more successful as it was more successful globally
Being more successful in 16 countries > being more successful in 10
Sorry
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This one is 1989 too. Unless anyone puts it up against 21/The Fame(Monster)/Teenage Dream the answer won't change in anyway.
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