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Celeb Photos: Beyoncé addresses racism in 2015 in Instagram posts
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Originally posted by Roman Holiday
Smh.
People are outraged. You can't keep poking a bear and not expect it to attack. Rioting may not be right, but historically speaking, you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet.
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Don't you dare clump the people protesting and wanting to make a difference within their communities and for race relations in 2015 to the people who are coming out of the sewers just to steal snacks at gas stations.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by blaggot
dd
"rioting/rebelling isn't going to change anything" but that's exactly what america did to get from under britain's regime.
"justice isn't equal, but not because of racism" but people of color are incarcerated at a much higher rate than white people for the same crimes.
the US was bred from genocide, racism, slavery, and more than anything, white entitlement and the only reason that these and other things to invalidate the anger and frustration of black people are being said is because white supremacy is being challenged and it's making white people uncomfortable. y'all want us to stay silent and accept our people being murdered by the police and have the audacity to act like it's our fault for getting upset about it.
the only one who needs to have a seat is you, boo. MLK was peaceful and was still assassinated by the government. funny how he's always the go-to black civil rights activist, yet y'all ignore the fact that he said this:
because it wasn't in your white-washed history textbooks.
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Different time period, different technology, different ways of communication.
If, for example, they had gossip blogs back then that leaked that Thomas Jefferson had sexual relations with his slave, I doubt he would have been chosen to write the Declaration of Independence and be the 3rd President of the United States.
Again, do some research. Yes, black versus white has a significant disparity, but the places where most of the arrests for black people take place are in low income neighborhoods.
The U.S. used to have laws against Asian people, Jewish people, etc. The same mortgage and loan laws signed by FDR which made it harder for black people to own a home was also ascribed to Jewish people. The U.S. has a history of racial suppression, but they have accomplished it through economic means.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
I don't get why people think:
"Hey, if people are already stereotyping us as violent and thuggish, let's just give them more of what they expect!! That'll change their opinions!!!!"
is a good strategy.
I mean, I get why they are doing it, but I doubt people will turn on CNN and say: "Hey, you know what. That kid looting 7/11 really spoke to me. Lemme change my mind on black people."
Like...
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exactly.
how can anyone justify what these people are doing? They are literally taking the focus away from Mr.Gray. which was the whole purpose of the protest.
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sidenote: sad, how no one is talking about the hate crime being committed by these rioters.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Nice to see her showing support.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Ties
ugh ikr. and then they shot him dead outside his hotel room I guess he wasn't peaceful enough!
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He probably would have been killed quicker had he acted like Malcolm X. So what point are we trying to make? That no matter how black people advocate for social equality, we're still at risk of being killed for our beliefs? GREAT!
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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Originally posted by DivaDown
Poking the bear?!?!? Cracking a few eggs?!?!? What kind of ASININE statement.
Let's do a quick history lessen Henney:
Martin Luther King, Jr. was at (by far) the WORST time for race relations in the United States. Did he EVER "riot"? NO. He protested. He protested & did it the RIGHT way & people (of all color) listened.
There's a BLATANT difference between what these hoodlums are doing in Baltimore & what Martin Luther King, Jr. did. So, don't imply it's ok for people to riot & cause damage to their community when looking back at history, we see the BIGGEST change was done by peaceful protesting.
I'm gonna order you a row of chairs, because Henney, you need to have SEVERAL seats.
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Originally posted by Doc
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Member Since: 11/30/2009
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Originally posted by Tripthelight
THIS! My mother's mother is native american and black and her father is white Jewish. Because of the teasing she received growing up biracial--I have NEVER seen my mother's natural skin color. She tans constantly, and refuses to let anyone, even her own children see how light she is. It's sad, but a common story for so many light skinned black people in this country.
Even as a light skinned black person myself, the amount of racism I have been subjected to is astounding. From white people who don't consider me black, and feel comfortable saying the most ridiculous racist statements to me, to Black people not considering me Black enough, and being resentful towards me for thinking that I've somehow had it easier.
I just have to say that Im happy this thread was made, and that this conversation is happening. It's emotionally triggering for me, but it's refreshing to read so many articulate and open-minded opinions about this subject.
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Yep, I have a lot of the same experiences and colorism is a triggering topic for me as well. I have always wanted to be darker. I have Black, Native American and white on both sides of my family. I was always teased in my neighborhood for not being Black enough, while at my majority white schools I was the target of a lot of racism. And then I've also had the experience where a white friend has "slipped up" and said something racist forgetting that I was Black for a moment. Smh.
I've had a hard life, so it's always made me angry when people talk about light skinned privilege. It's only now that I'm starting to be able to face the fact that lightskin privilege is real and therefore I've benefited from it (even if I don't feel like I have) and realize that it doesn't mean I haven't suffered. It's a very sensitive topic for me.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Harly
exactly.
how can anyone justify what these people are doing? They are literally taking the focus away from Mr.Gray. which was the whole purpose of the protest.
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sidenote: sad, how no one is talking about the hate crime being committed by these rioters.
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Exactly. Like it's great that 1382903840234 articles are about Baltimore now, but when only 5 of them have Freddie Gray as the headline...
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Member Since: 9/2/2012
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I'm not a big fan of hers but I'm glad shes using her platform to talk about this issue. Good for her.
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Member Since: 9/2/2012
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Originally posted by Harly
exactly.
how can anyone justify what these people are doing? They are literally taking the focus away from Mr.Gray. which was the whole purpose of the protest.
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sidenote: sad, how no one is talking about the hate crime being committed by these rioters.
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There is no hate crime the 'rioters' are doing. wtf???
and these protests are putting more focus on the issue and not letting it get swept under the rug like the other 300 black deaths caused by police this year
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Member Since: 11/30/2009
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Originally posted by Doc
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Definitely using this in the future
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
Different time period, different technology, different ways of communication.
If, for example, they had gossip blogs back then that leaked that Thomas Jefferson had sexual relations with his slave, I doubt he would have been chosen to write the Declaration of Independence and be the 3rd President of the United States.
Again, do some research. Yes, black versus white has a significant disparity, but the places where most of the arrests for black people take place are in low income neighborhoods.
The U.S. used to have laws against Asian people, Jewish people, etc. The same mortgage and loan laws signed by FDR which made it harder for black people to own a home was also ascribed to Jewish people. The U.S. has a history of racial suppression, but they have accomplished it through economic means.
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and who do you think is responsible for those low income neighborhoods? you need to do some research yourself, specifically on the tulsa race riot of 1921 in which white people were literally so angry that black people were making bank and doing well for themselves that they came in, massacred them and destroyed their businesses. fast forward to today where institutionalized racism is so prevalent that a white person with a criminal past is more likely to get employed over a person of color with no criminal past.
and you can miss me with the "if this, then that" because it's nothing but hot air with no merit.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
Posts: 13,110
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
He probably would have been killed quicker had he acted like Malcolm X. So what point are we trying to make? That no matter how black people advocate for social equality, we're still at risk of being killed for our beliefs? GREAT!
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it would be great if today's social movements would learn a little from the civil rights era.
Like...Rosa Parks was a plant, but a perfectly planted person to take the hit for sitting in the front of the bus: she had no criminal record and was relatively well respected, as opposed to the unwed single mother they first tested out the bus-strategy on. Freddie Gray is no Rosa Parks.
The current movement needs some leaders...and it needs some planning to get across a positive media message. And no, it's not Al Sharpton
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Member Since: 4/26/2012
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Originally posted by Roman Holiday
Smh.
People are outraged. You can't keep poking a bear and not expect it to attack. Rioting may not be right, but historically speaking, you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet.
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What the hell is?
People are getting hurt, businesses destroyed, some kids there are actually participating, being exposed to the violence. Too young to understand the magnitude of the situation.
All this rioting is doing is giving the media fuel to paint us black people in a criminal light, as "thugs" while the peaceful protestors are being overshadowed.
Go head somewhere with that "you gotta crack a couple eggs to make an omelet" way of thinking. I wish I would go out and throw rocks at police, loot and steal Charmin toilet paper, etc just because I was mad.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Zoraluv
There is no hate crime the 'rioters' are doing. wtf???
and these protests are putting more focus on the issue and not letting it get swept under the rug like the other 300 black deaths caused by police this year
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https://youtu.be/m6tmB70qSxw
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Say what you want about the rioters, it's built up frustration. The neighborhood was trash anyway, nothing but abandoned buildings and liquor stores. No produce stores or clinics remotely close. They were wrong for burning down CVS but it actually did do something, it sent a message. If they didn't do what they did nobody would be talking about the murder that occurred. We have Obama and Beyoncé discussing the issue of innocent black men being murder by police. If this riot never happened then it would've just been another unseen death. Say what you want, it's easy to judge the situation if the oppression isn't happening to you...
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by blaggot
and who do you think is responsible for those low income neighborhoods? you need to do some research yourself, specifically on the tulsa race riot of 1921 in which white people were literally so angry that black people were making bank and doing well for themselves that they came in, massacred them and destroyed their businesses. fast forward to today where institutionalized racism is so prevalent that a white person with a criminal past is more likely to get employed over a person of color with no criminal past.
and you can miss me with the "if this, then that" because it's nothing but hot air with no merit.
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It was actually a well off middle class neighborhood until the white government brought crack into the communities
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by blaggot
and who do you think is responsible for those low income neighborhoods? you need to do some research yourself, specifically on the tulsa race riot of 1921 in which white people were literally so angry that black people were making bank and doing well for themselves that they came in, massacred them and destroyed their businesses. fast forward to today where institutionalized racism is so prevalent that a white person with a criminal past is more likely to get employed over a person of color with no criminal past.
and you can miss me with the "if this, then that" because it's nothing but hot air with no merit.
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Again, I get why black people are angry and I've done some reading over the past few months including the race riot you just mentioned. My point is just that the way the media and communication works today, and the flash-bang protests that last for, at best, a month don't seem to be leading anywhere. We have a freakin' black President and even he cowered and called the rioters "thugs" along with the black Mayor or Baltimore.
This can't continue to be a white vs. black issue because we already know who will win. Things like police arrest and brutality are much harder to get the public to get behind than the visible signs of injustice that the civil rights era was built off of.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Crimson18
Yep, I have a lot of the same experiences and colorism is a triggering topic for me as well. I have always wanted to be darker. I have Black, Native American and white on both sides of my family. I was always teased in my neighborhood for not being Black enough, while at my majority white schools I was the target of a lot of racism. And then I've also had the experience where a white friend has "slipped up" and said something racist forgetting that I was Black for a moment. Smh.
I've had a hard life, so it's always made me angry when people talk about light skinned privilege. It's only now that I'm starting to be able to face the fact that lightskin privilege is real and therefore I've benefited from it (even if I don't feel like I have) and realize that it doesn't mean I haven't suffered. It's a very sensitive topic for me.
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yeah, you are definitely not alone in your story.
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