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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
Member Since: 9/16/2011
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Originally posted by Giselle
Hey, everyone. Take this quiz to see which candidate you agree with most.
I (of course) got Hillary
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Obama was my highest. Why is he included when he can't even run?
Clinton and Biden after him.
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Originally posted by Giselle
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Touching.
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Originally posted by Espresso
Elizabeth and Bernie are big heroes to me as a through-and through progressive, but they wouldn't win a general election.
For Supreme Court justice retirements, I and many others can't afford to have Jeb Bush in the White House.
If I have to begrudgingly pick Hillary to make sure unions aren't gutted, RFRA laws aren't expanded, and new wars without pretext aren't started, so be it.
By the way, Rand is NOT a true libertarian. I'd argue actually that he isn't even close. I wonder if his Dad's ongoing ethics scandal will take his son down with him.
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What is his father accused of?
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For that quiz, I got:
- Bernie Sanders (I agreed with him the most on social issues by a landslide )
- Barack Obama (I agreed with him the most on economic issues)
- Hillary Clinton
And since I don't think Bernie will run, Hillary is the next best thing!
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Rand Paul's video
He's already getting grilled in televised interviews he's had, he's already having a bumpy ride
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Member Since: 3/12/2012
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I appreciate Hillary running - I believe she will do well.
You don't see my ass doing, "YAAAS HILARY!" all of this goddamn thread. *cough*Toxic..i*cough*
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Is Hillary PRO LGBT rights tho?
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I'd love a third party to win someday just to see how things would be, but until then I'm staying blue
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Originally posted by 21stcentury*****
Is Hillary PRO LGBT rights tho?
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She condemned the recent Indiana discrimination law, DOMA, and has come out in support of marriage.
and included a gay and lesbian couple in her campaign video
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Member Since: 10/2/2011
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Originally posted by 21stcentury*****
Is Hillary PRO LGBT rights tho?
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She had a really rough interview with Terry Gross at NPR over gay marriage, mostly because Terry, rightly, was trying to get her to admit to past support for things like DOMA that her husband passed.
DOMA was largely passed though by Bill Clinton to placate the Republicans to avoid there being a constitutional amendment passed that would have been harder to overturn like the Supreme Court did in 2013.
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Um, I kinda want to vote for her (the first time I'll ever vote) but after her husband said that racist thing about Obama I'm not sure.... Hmmmm
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I feel like if we get a Republican President, we (the LGBT community) will just get screwed. Literally every Republican who has declared and who are most likely going to run are strongly against the way we love
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Originally posted by 21stcentury*****
Is Hillary PRO LGBT rights tho?
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They recently released documents from the 90s presidency - 1996 in particular because that is when DOMA (federal law barring recognition of gay marriage) was passed.
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As a Senate candidate, Clinton couldn't maintain the ambiguity. In January 2000, she said she would have voted for the Defense of Marriage Act and, despite supporting some rights for same-sex couples, she did not believe that they should be entitled to marry. “Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman,” she said then.
In 2013, after she left the State Department, Clinton said she had changed her position and now favored recognition of gay marriages. But even last year, 15 months after her husband conceded in a Washington Post op-ed that he had come around to the view that the Defense of Marriage Act had always been unconstitutional, Hillary appeared to be still defending the bill, at least on practical grounds.
“What DOMA did is at least allow the states to act,” she told NPR’s Terry Gross in an interview that turned contentious when Clinton was asked to trace her change of opinion on the gay marriage. “It wasn't going yet to be recognized by the federal government, but at the state level there was the opportunity. And my husband, you know, was the first to say that, you know, the political circumstances, the threats that were trying to be alleviated by the passage of DOMA thankfully were no longer so preeminent and we could keep moving forward, and that's what we're doing.”
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This is a long read, but if you want to see how DOMA - which stopped a constitutional ban on gay marriage - haunted President Clinton, read this:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...ff-116859.html
Also keep in mind it wasn't until 2012(!) that one of the two presidential candidates spoke in favor of gay marriage.
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Originally posted by RudeBoyy
Um, I kinda want to vote for her (the first time I'll ever vote) but after her husband said that racist thing about Obama I'm not sure.... Hmmmm
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That was always a rumor, and him and Obama are on good terms now.
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Member Since: 8/9/2012
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Originally posted by Giselle
That was always a rumor, and him and Obama are on good terms now.
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Oh, and well according to google my 18th birthday is the day after election day so I can't vote anyway :deadbanana; Still, I support the #FirstWomanPresident
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RESULTS:
1. Hilary Clinton (50%)
2. Barack Obama/Bernie Sanders (45%)
3. Chris Christie/Joe Biden (43%)
4. Brian Schweitzer (35%)
5. Scott Keller (30%)
6. John Bolton (18%)
7. Ben Carson/Rand Paul (15%)
8. Jeb Bush/Rob Portman (10%)
9. Marco Rubio (8%)
10. Ted Cruz (5%)
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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come thru!!
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