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Discussion: Bruno can appropriate Funk, but Iggy can't appropriate Rap?
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Originally posted by Marla Singer
It's not as if she actually includes stuff like this on her albums like, say, Nicki.
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Originally posted by IsidoraMarí
Well Rock, Blues, Jazz, Country, R&B, all modern Popular music originated with African Americans.
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!! Right. This is nothing new. Neither Bruno nor Iggy is in the wrong. If you blame anyone, blame the GP and how selective they are about whose music they buy.
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Originally posted by NE.
It's not about ownership, it's about cultural respect. I've said this before, but that's almost like telling Native Americans that they "don't own" dreamcatchers and war bonnets (Indian headdresses).
So many white companies like Urban Outfitters have been heavily criticized for selling mock merchandise of these cultural accessories, and most of the hipster and suburban consumers aren't even aware of the traditional meaning behind them. And while these white companies are making millions off of watering down and erasing them out of their own culture, Native Americans are living poor on reservations and not getting cent out of it.
This is why minorities are sick and tired of this kind of stuff. When Blacks try to promote their own cultural art forms, they're either rejected as "ghetto" and "dangerous" and not given the respect in the mainstream, but when a white person copies and does the SAME thing, suddenly it's marketable.
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Originally posted by Priyanka Chopra
Latinos are not a race and not all Latinos are part black. 
Only some Latinos [mainly in the Caribbean because that's where they had slaves] are part black.
FYI J.Lo got some flack for using the n-word, but she and Fat Joe are from the Bronx so they're more accepted by blacks. Hip hop culture originated with blacks and Latinos in the Bronx. |
Well, HERE IN THE US, Latino is classified as a race. And being an American with LATINO heritage, I can tell you the RACE descended from blacks, whites, and Native Americans.
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Originally posted by Artemisia
idk, it's kinda sickening, especially when you consider that there is a gorilla on the cover of his second album.
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I am HOWLING
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Omg can this thread just die already?
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Because he's a THROWBACK baby.
Sometimes children take after a grandparent or great grandparent and its clear that one of those people was black.
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Originally posted by liberalmusiclover
Well, HERE IN THE US, Latino is classified as a race. And being an American with LATINO heritage, I can tell you the RACE descended from blacks, whites, and Native Americans.
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Latino is not categorized as a race on the US! The government calls it an 'ethnicity' and even denotes that it includes any race! This is why in the latest Census 'white' and 'black' options had Non-Latino in parentheses in order to put all Latinos together no matter the race.
You can tell me whatever you feel and think, but the fact is it is not a race. No way Pitbull, George Lopez and Xtina Milian are of the same race. That's three different races right there.
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
Bruno isn't racist
Bruno has been doing funk for years now
Bruno is genuine
Bruno is talented
Bruno isn't using a fake accent
Bruno is respected
All of which Iggy isn't. Next Topic
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Originally posted by Priyanka Chopra
You can tell me whatever you feel and think, but the fact is it is not a race. No way Pitbull, George Lopez and Xtina Milian are of the same race. That's three different races right there. |
Not really just 3 different percentages of admixtures.
Xtina Milian is obviously not %100 black latina, Pit Bull is not %100 white latino, and G.Lopez is not %100 indigenous.
Lopez even had a DNA test that showed he had significant african ancestry.
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Originally posted by blasianlove
Not really just 3 different percentages of admixtures.
Xtina Milian is obviously not %100 black latina, Pit Bull is not %100 white latino, and G.Lopez is not %100 indigenous.
Lopez even had a DNA test that showed he had significant african ancestry.
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I know Xtina Milian and George are mixed, but I mean their majority races, which people will refer to. People call anyone significantly black just 'black.'
FYI Pitbull's sister did a DNA test and they are white! Their ancestry is southern Spanish and North African. That's Caucasian and similar to Ariana Grande's ancestry.
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Originally posted by liberalmusiclover
Well, HERE IN THE US, Latino is classified as a race. And being an American with LATINO heritage, I can tell you the RACE descended from blacks, whites, and Native Americans.
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Not all latinos are descended from the "blacks, white and native americans", not even half of them imo, it also depends on the country, I mean 45% of the population on Peru is native peruvian, while the 97% of the population of Argentina is white (hispanic and european immigrants), and also Brazil's population is 47.73% White, 43.13% pardo (black mixed with white) and 7.61% black.. there are also latinos of asian heritage...
In my opinion, Latinos are an ethnicity, not a race, since all of them come from a different racial background
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Originally posted by NE.
It's not about ownership, it's about cultural respect. I've said this before, but that's almost like telling Native Americans that they "don't own" dreamcatchers and war bonnets (Indian headdresses).
So many white companies like Urban Outfitters have been heavily criticized for selling mock merchandise of these cultural accessories, and most of the hipster and suburban consumers aren't even aware of the traditional meaning behind them. And while these white companies are making millions off of watering down and erasing them out of their own culture, Native Americans are living poor on reservations and not getting cent out of it.
This is why minorities are sick and tired of this kind of stuff. When Blacks try to promote their own cultural art forms, they're either rejected as "ghetto" and "dangerous" and not given the respect in the mainstream, but when a white person copies and does the SAME thing, suddenly it's marketable.
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And there is the definition of appropriation for the clueless folks in the back.
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Bruno gets a pass because he isnt white. Hell Bruno Mars could be latin, black anything.. he looks ethnic so again thats why people dont care
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Originally posted by Dawn
Uptown Funk is more pop than actual funk. Besides that, Bruno is not employing a stereotype of the genre for the sake of success as Iggy is doing in my opinion.
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This.
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
Bruno isn't racist
Bruno has been doing funk for years now
Bruno is genuine
Bruno is talented
Bruno isn't using a fake accent
Bruno is respected
All of which Iggy isn't. Next Topic
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Thread should have ended here tbh. 
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Originally posted by mos
appropriation is when you use an aspect of a culture without showing it respect. tell me how bruno is showing a lack of respect to the art he GREW up with performing on stage at 5-6 years old.
are you also going ot tell us his hair is a form of appropriation even though that is naturally the way it is
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Bruno Mars is bae but aside from that
All this cultural appropriation and racism claims have yet to affect iggy's career negatively. People are starting to care less and less due to rappers supporting her and people deciding to spend their time doing better things. Comments on Fb/buzzfeed/etc are starting to get more positive and are either shifting in support of iggy or indifference of iggy. The only people who will be left to care about this "issue" is SJWs and ATRL and part of the black community, none of whom have any control in the industry so this conversation of iggy, her accent, her tweets, her lyrics, and cultural appropriation is redundant and uninteresting. Worry about y'all faves, not someone else's
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Because he isn't pale white and according to ATRL as long as your skin isn't white, you're allowed to do and say anything you want.
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
Bruno isn't racist
Bruno has been doing funk for years now
Bruno is genuine
Bruno is talented
Bruno isn't using a fake accent
Bruno is respected
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Justin Timberlake is neither of those things and yet he is often accused of appropriating "black culture" 
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Originally posted by Dawn
Uptown Funk is more pop than actual funk.
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This hot tea is lethal
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
Bruno isn't racist
Bruno has been doing funk for years now
Bruno is genuine
Bruno is talented
Bruno isn't using a fake accent
Bruno is respected
All of which Iggy isn't. Next Topic
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No lies spotted.
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