Can a HIVE member please explain how this demo is lyrically different from Beyonce's version outside of a few words here and there?
Considering his song ended after the first verse + chorus, I'd say Beyoncé's version is totally different. Her version has two more full verses and totally different vocal arrangements (including changed lyrics from the demo you posted).
So you're saying that you won't believe anything positive written about Bey. This isn't very smart. If you're proven wrong, you should accept it. This isn't how to have a discussion and with this attitude, you won't grow and won't learn anything.
Since your mind has already been made up and you won't accept the truth, then you should exit this thread.
You can't totally discredit what that person said, writers and producer usually talk wonders about the artist they work with, that happens all the time. The only close minded person here is you.
We have no takers that can explain away the audio of Ne-Yo basically admitting that he WROTE Irreplaceable entirely by himself and originally intended to keep the song for himself but gave it away to Beyonce because it sounded better coming from a woman's perspective? Interesting.
R&B Singer Ne-Yo stirred up some press earlier this week after headlines stated that he regretted giving the hit record “Irreplaceable” to Beyonce. He was quoted as telling Choice FM radio:
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One song that I gave away and didn’t want to is Beyonce’s Irreplaceable. I honestly wrote that song for myself. But that song actually taught me a very interesting lesson – men and women don’t actually think that much differently in the grand scheme of things.
“However, a man singing it comes across a little bit misogynistic, a little bit mean.”
How does this contradict the Ne-Yo quote PULSE brought up?
What does this have to do with songwriting credits?
He gave away the song then it became a huge hit. I remember this, what he was saying was that he wished he was the singer of that big hit. But I doubt the song would've been this iconic and big if Ne-Yo had sung it.
Will.I.Am said the same exact thing about OMG by Usher. After the success, he said he regretted not keeping the song for himself or Black Eyed Peas.
AUDIO for the HIVE since apparently everyone is lying. Why don't you hear it directly from the source.
I think you are misreading "I wrote that song FOR myself" for "I wrote that song myself"... it's the only excuse I can find for you fail attempt at "proving" anything since no one said Beyoncé wrote it alone or started writing it first...
I mean, 7-8 pages long discussion on what is a part of songwriting (she didn't receive an award for it over nothing) and another interview of Ne-Yo himself saying what Beyoncé contributed to the track and that it is indeed songwriting credit worth it and you STILL wanna troll? I mean... can't you just accept you can't discredit her on this? Sorry Boo... even with Linda Perry "co-signing" you... you still losing...
I also don't understand why people act like Beyonceé hasn't written for anyone else, remember #1 smash Grillz? From the same year as Irreplaceable? She has a writing credit on it, and with it she became the THIRD female to have three #1 writing credits in one year, and the SECOND female to replace a #1 song that she contributed writing to, with another song that she wrotea
Ne-Yo back-peddling in order to keep himself in her good graces and industry standing doesn't discredit the facts. His version of the song was already FINISHED before she had even heard it and he planned on releasing the song himself but then decided that it would sound better being sung from a woman's perspective so him and his PR friendly statement amount to nothing but hot air.
That's where you're WRONG again.
"Ne-Yo has said in interviews that he had Faith Hill and Shania Twain in mind when he wrote “Irreplaceable” as a country song, and Hermansen still thinks the tune could easily have been a country radio hit."
"But she [Beyonce] heard it and did her own vocal arrangements, asked for a few changes to be made and some new drums, and she sang it much higher than the demo.” Stargate.
I'm on my phone so I can't easily look up stuff but Bangladesh has been quoted as saying something like "it doesn't matter if Beyonce writes the song or not" where he pretty much admits she forces her way into the credits. There's the Smack Into You demo, there's the 1+1 demo, the Irreplaceable demo, Rob Fusari exposing her in his interview with Billboard magazine when it came to "Bootylicious", the fact that she was taken out of the credits for "Listen" at the Oscars, and more. It's well documented that she at most changes a word or does a few harmonies.
That's not songwriting. It may technically be songwriting, but she doesn't write songs from scratch like a real songwriter.
a. she have small input on smash into you, but you can't deny the diffierence.
the original song actually was 5:43 but beyonce's 4:31 she change the song's structure and some little lyrics change and vocal arrangements, diffirent drum, vocal production etc...
b. 1+1/ you can hear the difference.. so?
c.
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“I give other people credit where credit is due, like Beyoncé really did vocally arrange (‘Irreplaceable’),” Ne-Yo says. “So for someone to come in and take my credit because they are who they are? That doesn’t work for me. I don’t care who you are. ... I’m not going to give you something you don’t deserve.”
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Beyonce helped me with the melodies and the harmonies and the vocal arrangement and that makes it a co-write. Meaning my contribution and her contribution made that song what it is."
"She wasn't trying to discredit me, she wasn't trying to take any credit from me, Beyonce is not that kind of person, I know her personally and I know that she wouldn't do me like that."
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"Ne-Yo wrote it from a male perspective" "But she heard it and did her own vocal arrangements, asked for a few changes to be made and some new drums, and she sang it much higher than the demo." by stargate
d. rob fusari said "I want full 50%credit by not including sample but beyonce did" so how is him exposing beyonce? seriously. read the article again people.
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I came up with the idea to build a track using the guitar riff from Stevie Nicks' "Edge of Seventeen." I really wanted to play the riff from "Eye of the Tiger," but I was flipping through my CDs in the studio and I couldn't find it. But I saw the Stevie Nicks CD and I remembered that the riff was similar.
I figured I'd put the guitar loop on there temporarily, and later go into the studio with a guitar and replay it, because I'd learned, after sampling Stevie Wonder's "I Wish" for Will Smith's "Wild Wild West," that I didn't want to lose 50% of the publishing. I vividly remember telling Mathew Knowles, "Mathew, you got to book me into your studio and let me replay that riff." It was Guitar 101! One note!
But Mathew didn't want to do it?
He didn't want to do it. So 50% got cut for one not
"We would show Beyoncé what we were doing and she would ask for maybe a little of this and a little of that. It was a group effort and a lot of fun.' Cutler insists the singer/actress won't be left out of he wins gold.
He says, "Beyonce helped that along a lot - little lifts in the melody, little lifts in the song that we hadn't thought of. She just kept sending back ideas, thoughts, what she wanted.
"I'll cut my Oscar in the middle and give her half."
"I said I originally wrote the song for me. That's true, so of course I didn't want to give it away originally. It was for me. Once I realized how the song comes across if sang by a guy, that's when I decided to give it away. How is that dissing Beyonce!?! She took the song and made it a smash, nobody can deny that."
I also don't understand why people act like Beyonceé hasn't written for anyone else, remember #1 smash Grillz? From the same year as Irreplaceable? She has a writing credit on it, and with it she became the THIRD female to have three #1 writing credits in one year, and the SECOND female to replace a #1 song that she contributed writing to, with another song that she wrotea
Because it samples "Soldier." All of DC's has a writing credit on it
Beyonce has done many collaborations, but she also has projects that she's worked from the ground up.
No one can really make the blanket statement that she changes one word and that's it. That may be the case sometimes, but that's why she'll be listed last or second to last on the credits. Like in Smash Into You/Satellites where she's listed last or not listed at all like in If I Were a Boy/I Was Here.
That doesn't mean all her credits are attained that way.
In the case of Diva/Irreplaceable/Partition/Drunk In Love she wrote whole verses and it shows.
How does this contradict the Ne-Yo quote PULSE brought up?
What does this have to do with songwriting credits?
He gave away the song then it became a huge hit. I remember this, what he was saying was that he wished he was the singer of that big hit. But I doubt the song would've been this iconic and big if Ne-Yo had sung it.
Will.I.Am said the same exact thing about OMG by Usher. After the success, he said he regretted not keeping the song for himself or Black Eyed Peas.
I sense you're trying way too hard here. 
