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Poll: Biggest Pop Girl PEAK?
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View Poll Results: Biggest PEAK?
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Madonna
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66 |
31.73% |
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Mariah Carey
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16 |
7.69% |
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Celine Dion
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4 |
1.92% |
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Britney Spears
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77 |
37.02% |
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Janet Jackson
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1 |
0.48% |
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Lady Gaga
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44 |
21.15% |
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Originally posted by slobro
- The Monster Ball and BTW Ball have grossed over 400 million combined  No one else did it with their first two tours.
- Obviously album sales from the digital era can't compare to album sales before, album sales have reduced to a third compared to when those other ladies were peaking  But The Fame and Born This Way are some of the best selling albums of the digital era (The Fame is #2, only behind 21) |
So you make the point that album sales are far less than what they were pre-digital era.
But conveniently fail to point out that concert grosses are far higher now than what they were back in the 80s & 90s.... 
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Gaga at her peak was the best selling albums artist, the best selling singles artist, the most streamed artist, the most viewed artist, massive touring artist right off the bat, the most followed artist on facebook and twitter, total domination. The others haven't done it. I regret voting for Madonna tbh
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This thread is hilarious....Britney fans still living in the Britney Land :')....and BIG LOL for those Who are denying gaga power and influence :').......anyway NONE Will ever touch the enormous success of queen madonna Who is the définition of GLOBAL...
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I genuinely love Britney (I own most of her albums) and I also enjoy quite a few of Gaga's songs... Now no-one is taking away from their achievements (which are GREAT), but the only reason so many people are voting for them is because they weren't around to witness Madonna's world dominating reign!!! Unlike with recent pop stars, her initial PEAK lasted 8 years from 1984 to 1992!!! Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Celine Dion AND Janet Jackson also had HUGE periods of success that endured for several albums...
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Originally posted by slobro
- The Monster Ball and BTW Ball have grossed over 400 million combined No one else did it with their first two tours.
combine ? i dont use tricks bye 
- Obviously album sales from the digital era can't compare to album sales before, album sales have reduced to a third compared to when those other ladies were peaking But The Fame and Born This Way are some of the best selling albums of the digital era (The Fame is #2, only behind 21)
[B][COLOR="Red"]http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-album-chart.htm
this is alltime chart, this means that it include the both digital and physical sales. funny how you said that The Fame is #2, only behind 21 in the era of digital sales but 21 is ranking at #34 on alltime chart meanwhile The Fame doesn't make into the chart, ur excuse is nonsense. plus reason why people don't care buying music anymore because streaming is dominating but lady gaga's never ranked in top 5 streamed artist charst either
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/26482885
http://www.dittomusic.com/blog/spoti...tists-of-2012/
http://www.nme.com/news/gotye/67484
- Gaga is a global act, and she has 5 songs make the IFPI year-end top 10 (the most out of any artist) which is far more prestigious than a local #1
- US radio at the time obviously changed partly because of Gaga. And you just need to look at how pop girls dressed during her peak to see her influence
gaga had 5 songs make the IFPI year-end top 10 (the most out of any artist) wow ! but how about 2012, 2013 and alltime chart ? where has she been ? i don't consider it as peak
and lol gaga influenced no one to dress weirdly
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Originally posted by slobro
Gaga at her peak was the best selling albums artist [1], the best selling singles artist, the most streamed artist [2], the most viewed artist [ 3], massive touring artist right off the bat, the most followed artist on facebook and twitter, total domination. The others haven't done it. I regret voting for Madonna tbh
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[1] how about the 0.99$
[2] receipts
[3] you mean youtube view ? oh justin bieber says hi
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Originally posted by Nhật Thực
[1] how about the 0.99$
[2] receipts
[3] you mean youtube view ? oh justin bieber says hi
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1. Just look it up yourself. According to mediatraffic you love to use The Fame was in the top 2 year-end best selling albums of 2009 and 2010 (#1 in 2010) and Born This Way was in the top 2 best selling albums of 2011. None of her peers have done it once, let alone three times in a row
2. Nielsen BDS: Top 10 Artists - Streams
1 Lady Gaga 135,606,000
3. During her peak (which this thread is about), she was the most viewed artist and she was. Gaga was the first artist to reach 1 billion views
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Originally posted by slobro
1. Just look it up yourself. According to mediatraffic you love to use The Fame was in the top 2 year-end best selling albums of 2009 and 2010 (#1 in 2010) and Born This Way was in the top 2 best selling albums of 2011. None of her peers have done it once, let alone three times in a row
2. Nielsen BDS: Top 10 Artists - Streams
1 Lady Gaga 135,606,000
3. During her peak (which this thread is about), she was the most viewed artist and she was. Gaga was the first artist to reach 1 billion views |
1. i asked you how about the 0.99$ thing that made a part of BTW's success. and let me make it clear for you. you drive this topic going too far with these two of gaga's albums, being ranked at #1or #2 on year end chart doesn't make you more succesful than other legends like Madonna, whitney, Mariah and even britney [at her peak] that people was dissusing on. does she has any album that enter the all time chart ? no, sadly true, lady gaga has nothing deserve to be compared in the thread like this.
2. we are talking about worldwide, dahling
3. youtube views as many other kind of ranking is estimated by the end of year, not who reachs bil views first, the view of video rise every sencond, everyone could say " of he reachd 1,5 bil views, she reach 2,3 bil views......" the view rise every sencond. the view is only estimated by a limit of time like year, month or decade.
lady gaga vevo view was estimated by the end of 2011 was about 1,963,620,513 came close by Rihanna while, justin bieber view was about 2,174,075,321
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I notice Katy is not on this poll. afraid the Kats will swarm now are we? 
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For the 238743687262th time, albums sales market when the other girls in this poll peaked where three times as big as when Gaga peaked. Why don't you understand that?
Year-end position means a lot, it reflects how successful her albums were compared to other albums released at the same time. Again, you cannot just compare sales 1:1 because of how much sales have decreased in general. A #1/#2 year-end album in the 80s/90s/early 00s would obviously sell way more than a #1/#2 year-end album in the digital era because of the current album sales market, not because those 80s/90s/00s albums were bigger
There's a reason the only albums on that alltime charts are all from before the digital era
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Originally posted by slobro
Year-end position means a lot, it shows successful her albums were compared to other albums released at the same time. For the 238743687262th time, albums sales during Gaga's peak were 1/3 of when the other girls in this poll peaked. Why don't you understand that?
There's a reason the only albums on that alltime charts are from before the digital era |
Adele disagrees
this is alltime chart, this means that it include the both digital and physical sales. funny how you said that The Fame is #2, only behind 21 in the era of digital sales but 21 is capably ranking at #34 on alltime chart meanwhile The Fame doesn't make into the chart, ur excuse is nonsense.
the reason why people don't care buying music anymore because streaming is dominating so we will talking about her success in term of streaming but even in that term lady gaga's never ranked #1 most WW streamed artist either
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Originally posted by Nhật Thực
Adele disagrees
this is alltime chart, this means that it include the both digital and physical sales. funny how you said that The Fame is #2, only behind 21 in the era of digital sales but 21 is capably ranking at #34 on alltime chart meanwhile The Fame doesn't make into the chart, ur excuse is nonsense.
the reason why people don't care buying music anymore because streaming is dominating so we will talking about her success in term of streaming but even in that term lady gaga's never ranked #1 either
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I said The Fame was the second biggest album of the digital era which it is  Why would you use the alltime chart when you're talking about the digital era
And the fact that Adele is literally the only new album that made that list says it all
By your logic, I guess Born This Way (song) is a bigger hit than any Madonna song. I mean it has sold 9+ million copies, more than any Madonna song. (And before you use that alltime songs chart from mediatraffic, that chart uses a point system, not actual sales)
Good to know
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Originally posted by J03Y
I notice Katy is not on this poll. afraid the Kats will swarm now are we? |
I ain't afraid! 
It's just that Katy's peak can't be compared to these other KWEENS...
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Youtube was big in the 90's too, right ?
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Madonna > Britney > Gaga > Mariah
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Originally posted by BASS
Youtube was big in the 90's too, right ? |
YouTube peaked in the 80's hun, that's why it's not fair to compare Janet's and Madonna's monstrous video views to these current girls.
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Originally posted by slobro
I said The Fame was the second biggest album of the digital era which it is Why would you use the alltime chart when you're talking about the digital era
And the fact that Adele is literally the only new album that made that list says it all
By your logic, I guess Born This Way (song) is a bigger hit than any Madonna song. I mean it has sold 9+ million copies, more than any Madonna song. (And before you use that alltime songs chart from mediatraffic, that chart uses a point system, not actual sales)
Good to know
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because we only use best selling albums o all time chart in this thread and because that's ALL TIME chart so digital or physical are all included. Adele can , lady gaga can't. that's all i know
and 9mil copies WW ? receipt ? don't give me that invalid billboard source
oh hey ! Madonna GMAYL sold 200mil copies ww
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People thinking The Fame (Monster) sold 14-15m without a re-release + EP. 
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lol.
OP why did you mix generations in this poll? you know a lot of members here think a music industry didn't exist before 1999 
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