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Britney Might Be Done
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Originally posted by CxMxPUNK
It's not worse. The reaction of most people back then was that they felt sorry for Mariah. Nobody feels sorry for Britney. She's brought this whole mess on herself.
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Nobody EVER felt sorry for Britney. That didn't change the fact the her career is pretty successful. As for Mariah, I remember people saying "poor girl, she's done". People felt sorry for her, and she still flopped. I prefer people saying that Britney is a ***** and that she's done - like many people said BILLION times since she released her first single - and come back successful. You say she's not talented, and that Mariah is. Britney probably have something to explain why she sold so many albums and is famous worlwide. So, I can count on that. Anywayz, my point was that if Mariah could recover from that, Britney also can.
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Originally posted by CxMxPUNK
They were both critical flops. Britney's movie did better but was still a joke to the general public. I am under no illusions of the fact that Glitter is one of the worst movies ever made - I fully realize that.
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Britney at least was nominated for the MTV Movie Awards. Maybe that's nothing, but Mariah couldn't even get that with her movie.
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Originally posted by CxMxPUNK
Maybe moderate was going a little far, but it wasn't like it totally didn't get played. It had average rotation, the first single got pretty decent play here in Los Angeles for quite a while.
As far as her other singles.. well from 1997 to the time Emancipation of Mimi came out, Mariah had four #1 singles and another that reached #2.. so I'd say her singles did OK.
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Who cares about being successful only in a single radio station from LA? Those ( http://www2.uta.edu/hunt/charts/mcarey.html ) are her peaks from 1997 to 2005 on the Mainstream Chart, before We Belong Together - Where da HELL are the #1s and #2 you mentioned? 
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Originally posted by CxMxPUNK
You mention Britney never needing strong radio singles.. well she will now. She was carried by showing her body off in music videos, well there's two problems - A.) that body is gone B.) music videos are essentially worthless now. Nobody watches them anymore because MTV and VH1 never show them anymore and she can't depend on that to carry her next album. If she doesn't have strong radio singles she will tank.
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You're saying she sells only because of her videos? I believe not, right? Because her biggest success on TRL are Lucky and MATM, and both flopped on radio, for example. However, BOMT video only reach #1 for 2 days, and OIDIA for 8.
And I repeat, she never needed strong radio singles to sell albums. Even during Toxic, ITZ sold pretty much what she would keep selling if it hadn't been a big hit.
Well, sorry if I'm going to laugh now, but in a time where downloads can get you a Top 5 on Billboard Hot 100, airplay is almost as worthless as MTV or VH1. 
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Member Since: 8/6/2003
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P.S.: I'm seriously DONE with this thread. Haters can have their party alone now. 
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In the next I dont say Mariah Carey....
stop comparing Britney to mariah plz, both are amazing!
Mariah's voice >>>>>>>>>>> Britney's Voice
Mariah's perfomances <<<<<<<<<<< Britney's perfomances
Mariah's songs >>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<< Britney's songs
Mariah's body <<<<<<<<<<<< Britney's body
And ok Kevin(isnt is?)I will stop!
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Member Since: 6/3/2006
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Originally posted by Anthony Kerty
P.S.: I'm seriously DONE with this thread. Haters can have their party alone now. |
You are the best 
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Originally posted by Anthony Kerty
All had its reasons. "Britney" came just after 9/11, and right when album sales dropped drastically + her Clear Channel ban; "ITZ" only had 3 singles, and she barely promoted the album in the US in 2004 - worldwide she stopped promoting by the time Everytime was released and a tour DOESN'T sell albums. Then, she released a stupid GH (that usually sells zero in the US), and we ALL know she didn't even care about doing a damn new photoshoot for the album. The Remixes album I won't even comment. Do you see my point here?
Well, I'm sorry but I have to say this: every Aguilera album also sold less than the one before it (same with Alicia Keys). Why isn't anyone talking about that? Because it's easier and more controversial to talk, especially talk BAD, about Britney. Nobody's news sells newspapers, magazines and whatsoever like Britney's does.
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I just want to say again, I'm not a hater, I don't really care about her, OR christina or beyonce etc. I'm pretty impartial.
I understand that she hasent had a 'real album' in a while, but still, you can't deny that shes declining.
Madonna is the perfect example. COADF has sold around 11 million now, the album before that sold 5 million, and the album before that sold around 15 million. AND, Madonna is now pretty old, clear channel hates her, and the US can't stand dance music. Yet shes still able to score a #1 album, and sell millions.
U2 has the same condition as Madonna, they've gone up and down album sales wide, as have the Red Hot Chili Peppers etc.
Anyway, I do agree with you that yes she hasent had a 'real album' in a while and album sales are generally down. However, with her status, she shouldnt be declining this much, dont you think?
[and to answer your previous question, people arnt talking about christina because she hasent developed a sleazy reputation..yet]
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Originally posted by Mr.Hollywood
I just want to say again, I'm not a hater, I don't really care about her, OR christina or beyonce etc. I'm pretty impartial.
I understand that she hasent had a 'real album' in a while, but still, you can't deny that shes declining.
Madonna is the perfect example. COADF has sold around 11 million now, the album before that sold 5 million, and the album before that sold around 15 million. AND, Madonna is now pretty old, clear channel hates her, and the US can't stand dance music. Yet shes still able to score a #1 album, and sell millions.
U2 has the same condition as Madonna, they've gone up and down album sales wide, as have the Red Hot Chili Peppers etc.
Anyway, I do agree with you that yes she hasent had a 'real album' in a while and album sales are generally down. However, with her status, she shouldnt be declining this much, dont you think?
[and to answer your previous question, people arnt talking about christina because she hasent developed a sleazy reputation..yet]
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gosh... first try to get your numbers from a different source than wikipedia!
American life sold 4 million albums worldwide and COADF sold 8 million albums...Music sold 12 million albums not 15...and well if you see madonna sales you will notice that weren't that great all time
Madonna: 8 WW [1983]
Like a virgin: 16 M[1984]
True blue : 19 M[1986]
Like a prayer : 12 M[1989]
GHV1: 23 M [1991]
Erotica: 6 M[1992]
Bed time: 5 M[1994]
Ray of Light: 16 M[1998]
Music:12M[2000]
GHv2: 6 M [2001]
American Life : 4 M [2003]
COADF : 8 M [2005]
so better look who is really declining such as shittina
CA:12 million albums
Mi reflejo:3 M
My kind of xmas:1M
Stripped:9 million albums
B2b:3 M
and b2b is not going to sell another 6 million... its impossible!...
something weird
Britney's USA sales
BOMT:14 M [CA WW sales:12M]
OIDIA:10 M[Stripped sales: 9 M]
Britney:4.3 M [b2b 3 M]
seems that next christina studio album will sell In the zone Numbers in the states
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no Superbowl and no TRL  whos going to save her?  bitch is desperate
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sad that some always has to bring up christina when the thread is about brit...i thought that was over now...almost every artist has declined in sales...that´s it!
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Member Since: 3/23/2005
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Well I'm not going to turn this into a numbers war,
But Newsweek said that COADF has sold 11 million worldwide.
And I honestly believe that AL sold 5.
Im not a numbers expert, but I think those Madonna sales are too low.
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Originally posted by blackbeatxx
sad that some always has to bring up christina when the thread is about brit...i thought that was over now..
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Especially that most of those who come here are christina fans. 
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Originally posted by XxmaryxX
"She's too much of a train wreck," says the insider. "Besides, we already have Paris Hilton."
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ouch!
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Member Since: 12/23/2006
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Originally posted by London Bitch
Especially that most of those who come here are christina fans.
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yeah...right
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Mr. Hollywood, I respect the fact that you are trying to make a point but you obviously can't ****ing read. I just posted a whole example of other artists declining in sales. Britney has only had ONE major drop in sales her entire career. From Oops to Britney which I clearly stated the reason why. Clear Channel, her new image, her new sound!! After that sales decling normally by a mere million. Christina has declined from 12 million to 8 million, to now B2B which will barely touch 2 million with the way her dumb ass label is handeling it. Stop trying to use RHCP, U2, + Madonna as your ****ing examples as if they REALLY matter to youthful music. We're talking about the pop stars who try to deliver, not the oldies who just want to keep selling no matter what. Please read again before I burn you again.
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over the years a lot of artists haven't sold more than their previous. you are not even specifying an artist you're just saying "other artists". It's pretty obvious Christina won't sell 4 million w/ B2B, when Stripped sold 4 million, which was less because her debut sold 8 million. Justin at this point will pass 3 million that Justified sold. Janet has been declining since 1993. Gwen Stefani will obviously not sell more than the 3.8 mil LAMB did. I'm naming the big time artists because what you're saying makes no sense.
Yes Brit's sales have declined but there are reasons why. Well in the 90s sells were huge anyways. When Oops! came she showed a little more sensuality with the red leather in Oops vid, the sexual antics is Stronger <333, Lucky was clean, and then of course the provocative DLMBTLTK video <333. She lost a lot of her young fans for the change. Then 2001-2002 hits and her sales go from 10 million to 4 million, this is due of course of the highly sexual Britney album. Slave, Overprotected, + Boys all showed a sense of a sexual change so add that with sales starting to decline. Then ITZ just sold 3 million, but if she had continued to promote it, unfortunately the bad knee + meeting Kevin ruined it, it would've gone to sell equally to Britney. But this album also showed maturity as a woman and her true feelings. And then 1.3 million for a greatist hits album in 2004 is pretty amazing to me so that drop didn't matter. Especially since the two singles released from it both flopped. And then no one gave a **** about the remix album. So now she can clean up her act which she has already started to do very well with and comeback with a big album.
Reminder: (US)
Album 1 = 125K / 14M
Album 2 = 1.3M / 10M
Album 3 = 746K / 4.5M
Album 4 = 609K / 3.1M
Album 5 = 255K / 1.3M (GH)
Album 6 = 14K / 100K
Album 7 = ????
After not having a real album in over 3 years fans and others will be anxious and she'll probably sell around the same as ITZ if not better. Also with the huge drop from '00 to '01, she changed her style of music so the ppl who liked her might've liked the bubblegum pop music she did, but come out with hip-hop songs it changes.
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Originally posted by Mr.Hollywood
Well I'm not going to turn this into a numbers war,
But Newsweek said that COADF has sold 11 million worldwide.
And I honestly believe that AL sold 5.
Im not a numbers expert, but I think those Madonna sales are too low.
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yeah right like thw 14 million albums sold by stripped...cammon...11 million albums worldwide its impossible to cOADF when her album didn't do that well in the states
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Originally posted by Uniqueness Is Key
Mr. Hollywood, I respect the fact that you are trying to make a point but you obviously can't ****ing read. I just posted a whole example of other artists declining in sales. Britney has only had ONE major drop in sales her entire career. From Oops to Britney which I clearly stated the reason why. Clear Channel, her new image, her new sound!! After that sales decling normally by a mere million. Christina has declined from 12 million to 8 million, to now B2B which will barely touch 2 million with the way her dumb ass label is handeling it. Stop trying to use RHCP, U2, + Madonna as your ****ing examples as if they REALLY matter to youthful music. We're talking about the pop stars who try to deliver, not the oldies who just want to keep selling no matter what. Please read again before I burn you again. |
I dont care about Christina or Justin's sales. I'm not trying to compare Britney to them, nor am I trying to drag her through the dirt.
I understand the various reasons why her sales have dropped over the past few years etc.
I'm trying to piont out that maybe some of you should'nt become so excited for the release of her new album, as although I'm sure it''ll be an improvement on her previous album sales (the greatest hits etc) for obvious reasons; but I think it'll join the trend of her sinking album sales. Basically it wont be able to top her other 'real' albums. [sorry if that wasent clear]
Another thing is that, I think it represents how this is only how far Britney can go. I honestly don't think she can go much more, and thats why her album sales have gone into decline. I don't claim to be a Brit expert, but from what I know, it doesn't seem as if she has really tried to branch out into other genres, or make a different sound.
I was using the RHCP, Madonna, and U2 as examples because I believe the first two artists still have an impact on todays (youthful) music market. But I suppose its unfair to compare them to the pop acts of today, Britney, Christina, Justin, Beyonce, etc.
Regardless, I suppose we just have to wait and see what happens when her album is released. It could shut me up, or make some of you realize that shes done. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Originally posted by M.A.R.C-tronic
yeah right like thw 14 million albums sold by stripped...cammon...11 million albums worldwide its impossible to cOADF when her album didn't do that well in the states
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This isnt a Madonna thread, but i'll at least say this:
Thats what I saw in Newsweek, and its not that unusual.
Its sold 1.6 in the US, and with two massive singles worldwide, and a worldwide tour, it almost makes sense. Plus, shes Madonna, her very name sells albums (especially in Europe and Australia.)
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Originally posted by Mr.Hollywood
This isnt a Madonna thread, but i'll at least say this:
Thats what I saw in Newsweek, and its not that unusual.
Its sold 1.6 in the US, and with two massive singles worldwide, and a worldwide tour, it almost makes sense. Plus, shes Madonna, her very name sells albums (especially in Europe and Australia.)
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Europe : 4 million
USA:1.6 million
Australia = 200K?
total:5.8 million?...where are you gonna sell at least another 5 million? from Latin America? i really doubt that... from Africa? LMao...from Asia...maybe another 2 million at best...but not 5 ...
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Originally posted by M.A.R.C-tronic
Europe : 4 million
USA:1.6 million
Australia = 200K?
total:5.8 million?...where are you gonna sell at least another 5 million? from Latin America? i really doubt that... from Africa? LMao...from Asia...maybe another 2 million at best...but not 5 ...
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Well according to the world chart, shes sold 8,000,000.
From what I saw in Newsweek, it was 11,000,000. I obviously have no authority on the matter, and I can't explain it. Personally I think it's sold anywhere between 8-11 mill.
So back on topic?
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This is the deal, half of people think she's going to comeback with a huge success....but other half think she's done, if you think about it, everyone knows she might sell over 7,000,000 albums, comparing it to Justin's new album which is almost selling close to 6,000,000.....it will be correct to assume that Britney will not sell less than that if her first single is better then his........
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