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Poll: Is Rihanna a singles driven artist?
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View Poll Results: Do singles drive Rihannas career?
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Agree with Bill.
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Don't think so.
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7.89% |
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by rihannabiggestfan
Imagine if Rihanna did promo like in the 4 era, slay 
Unapologetic still breezed by 3m WW even with minimal promo |
Minimal promo, but still hits. Thats the whole point of this thread "singles" 
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Selling albums with hits is fine and healthy but you wouldn't know , would you ?!
Beyonce had to fake her pregnancy to go platinum so stop !!
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Rih still winning and the guy wasn't shading = )
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Originally posted by swissman
Now imagine Diamonds didn't exist and she released the most un-radio friendly track on the album as the lead single. How much would it sell?
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Lol Run the World is the most un-radio friendly track on the album? It's upbeat pop 
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
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It's what happens when your album is that strong. Every song on Rih's album has the capability of becoming a single. It always fulfills some sort of niche, may it be Pop, Dance, Reggae, Urban, etc. |
I disagree just because an album is filled with tailor made hits doesn't mean it's a strong cohesive body of work. And in my opinion because she's such a global star with these massive hits she should be selling way more imo
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TTT and Unapologetic #'s are underwhelming considering the big hits they produce. In the US and WW. TTT took a year to sale 1 million. UA is almost out of the charts only 9 -10 months in.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by swissman
Now imagine Diamonds didn't exist and she released the most un-radio friendly track on the album as the lead single. How much would it sell?
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Obviously not as much. I dont think theres anything bad about her being a singles driven artist, but lets be real she doesn't do "body of works" and nobody really can tell what single is from what album, but it works for her *shrugs* 
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by rihannabiggestfan
Lol Run the World is the most un-radio friendly track on the album? It's upbeat pop |
So tell me which is the most un-radio friendly song on the album?
The beat was entirely different than any of the upbeat songs on the radio at the time, the singing style was very rough, hardly any melody, etc. And it is NOT pop. It's Major Lazer after all lol.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by BSNMology
4 was expertly promoted. I mean, Beyonce headlined Glastonbury for crying out loud. She appeared on a string of several other of high profile events, including Oprah's finale, American Idol finale, Billboard Awards (where she received the highest honor). She not ONLY performed Run The World during her promo run, but 1+1 and BTINH, giving a feel for the ENTIRE BODY OF WORK. She did Love On Top at the VMAs and (if I'm not mistaken) Countdown was televised on Jimmy Kimmel and five songs got music videos (not including the I Was Here special vid or Dance For You, cuz that's not on the standard edition).
2.1 million without a huge single is nothing to scoff at, but at the same time, it's not like she did NOTHING. Beyonce was everywhere.
HAD she had hits, yes, the album would have done ridiculously better, but if that's the argument, then technically that makes Beyonce a singles driven artist as well, if we're being relative, comparing 4 to DIL, Bday and IASF.
What is the point you're trying to make? |
Oops.
But what's the big deal?!?!
98% of mainstream artist are, tbh
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Every artist sells better with hits. It's common sense.
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Originally posted by Alvajay
Minimal promo, but still hits. Thats the whole point of this thread "singles" |
But that's the point. Singles ARE promo. It's the best promo if they do well. If you can sell someone a single, then they have one foot in the door to buying your album. Seeing a performance isn't the same as getting the approval of a previous transaction.
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If your pop fave isn't a single driven artist, then you're kinda wrong
Even Kanye tried to prove he's not, but he is.
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Originally posted by Gangsta4alife
I disagree just because an album is tailor made for hits doesn't mean it's a strong cohesive body of work.
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True, but not for Rihanna. Each of her albums have very strong, cohesive themes. No one can deny that.
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Originally posted by Alvajay
Obviously not as much. I dont think theres anything bad about her being a singles driven artist, but lets be real she doesn't do "body of works" and nobody really can tell what single is from what album, but it works for her *shrugs* |
And this is why her legacy is going to be one big question mark. There is absolutely nothing outstanding or memorable about her eras.
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Member Since: 5/20/2012
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Originally posted by rihannabiggestfan
Lol Run the World is the most un-radio friendly track on the album? It's upbeat pop |
It samples an alternative dancehall song 
The verses are pretty much unintelligibly rapped and the only real melody appears in the pre-chorus and the outro  It's a polarizing track.
It's not your common mainstream single.
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by PULSE.
TTT and Unapologetic #'s are underwhelming considering the big hits they produce. In the US and WW. TTT took a year to sale 1 million. UA is almost out of the charts only 9 -10 months in.
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So what it comes down to is that every fan base is grossly envious of Rih's smash singles EVERY era. Hence the existence of this thread.
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Originally posted by Desert Rain
Glasto is local to the UK where she did quite well.
You forget, all this promo was for RUN THE WORLD, a very poor choice for a lead single. Had it been for LoT or End Of Time things would be different.
Countdown was released in October, the video came a week later, the Fallon performance was more than a month after. Love On Top was released two weeks after the VMA performance and a whole month BEFORE the video came out.
All in all, the 4 era was horribly mismanaged.
With B'Day, she sold 3-4 million before Irreplaceable pushed it towards 7 million.
IASF was very consistent throughout its run past 7 million due to the regular singles.
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I think 4 is only considered mismanaged because we are fans and are programmed to think single, video, slay, 2nd single, 2nd video, slay, 3rd single, 3rd video, slay, repeat.
All in all, I think Bey did a good job of exhibiting 4 to the masses.
I mean just look at how LoT sold after the VMAs!
It wasn't a single, but people heard it and connected to it. And that's the goal at the end of the day.
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
Death @ promo when she stopped promoting her album after the 2011 VMAs. less then 4 mos after her album was released.
How do you account for her continuing to sell 2 million more albums since then?
Rihanna had all these hits. She shouldn't be anywhere close to what Bey sold with 4, but she is. There is no spinning it.
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Unapologetic sold 3.5 M WW and she stopped with the promo in february
4- 2.8 M
how is that close
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Originally posted by supaspaz
Every artist sells better with hits.
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I agree. Rihanna sells 3 million with hits. So without them she'll be in trouble which brings us back to what Bill stated.
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