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Poll: Will Nicki ever reach Missy Elliott's success and impact ??
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Yes
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Maybe
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No
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In her dreams
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
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Originally posted by Willy.
No female rapper will come for Missy. None.
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Maybe not in Acclaimed etc but Success Onika been tugging at her toupee sis.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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she already did, nickis only been mainstream for 3 years too.
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Originally posted by BadBitch
Maybe not in Acclaimed etc but Success Onika been tugging at her toupee sis.
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Gyal you know what I meant.
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by slw84
Pass that dutch is my jam. Brings me back to Sophomore year and that 'flop' era was when Pass that dutch stalled in the low 20s on the charts and the album debuted at #13 on the billboard charts and was CERTIFIED PLATINUM having not sold ANYWHERE near 1M. Nicki is around 800k and people give her so much problems about shipping and not selling platinum. I'm glad you brought that up.
Missy has amazing hits but she also has silly hits as well. She's hit or miss to.
Solid songs: Supa dupa fly, Get ur freak on, Lose control, hot boyz, all in my grill
Silly songs: Sock it to me, One minute man...Missy has nerve , gossip folks (so overrated), we run this (what kind of rehash), beep me 911, most of her features.
Not hits: I'm really hot, pass the dutch, she's a b, ching a ling, shake your pom pom, p*cat, 4 my people
I love missy but let's not act like she has an almost flawfree discography like Lauryn Hill or something.
Tis true...but debate is fun.
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Girl Lauryn Hill has one album.
And jot you trying to come for One Minute Man and Gossip Folks as examples of Missy missteps no ma'am
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Can we let Nicki carve out her own ****? Missy laid out a career that no female rapper could ever replicate because she was THAT good.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
Girl Lauryn Hill has one album.
And jot you trying to come for One Minute Man and Gossip Folks as examples of Missy missteps no ma'am
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um she has the mtv live album, and all her FLAWLESS albums when she was with the fugees. her discography is bigger than one album
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
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Originally posted by Siya
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And Nicki isn't? Girl. At least, she (Missy) has critical acclaim backing her praise.
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Member Since: 7/9/2009
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Originally posted by Starburst
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She didn't have to flip flop between genres to be successful, she was true to herself and set trends.
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Why would she when she was around when hip hop and R&B was THRIVING?!?
Y'all stay using the same tired ass reasoning.
You tried.
But anyway, no, I do not think Nicki will ever reach Missy's level. She may have some singles that are bigger, but overall, no. Missy was involved in way too many things... WAY TOO MANY THINGS... that contribute to her being a hip hop legend... she has a lot of behind the scenes cred and respect that Nicki won't see.
Nicki will earn her own place.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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It's hard to compare the two. They're from two completely different decades.
Missy had it a little easier than Nicki. When Missy was successful, there were several other female rappers (Foxy, Kim, etc) also topping the charts. Female hip hop (and hip hop in general) was more relevant at the time. When Nicki started out, the female rap industry was stagnant. Missy and Kim weren't releasing music, Foxy was deaf, Remy was in prison and all of the other girls just faded away.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by chilluminati
And Nicki isn't? Girl. At least, she (Missy) has critical acclaim backing her praise.
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nicki isn't praised though.... should i remind you she had a backlash against her music in the past year.
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Originally posted by ManDown
It's hard to compare the two. They're from two completely different decades.
Missy had it a little easier than Nicki. When Missy was successful, there were several other female rappers (Foxy, Kim, etc) also topping the charts. Female hip hop (and hip hop in general) was more relevant at the time. When Nicki started out, the female rap industry was stagnant. Missy and Kim weren't releasing music, Foxy was deaf, Remy was in prison and all of the other girls just faded away.
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I SCREAMED.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
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Originally posted by MMMinaj
she already did, nickis only been mainstream for 3 years too.
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So she's surpassed her in album sales, critical acclaim, general respect in terms of artistry?
Nope.
Nicki hasn't even done anything innovative with her music yet.
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Member Since: 6/1/2011
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This discussion is going nowhere. When Nicki's destiny is finished, she will have surpassed every female rapper.
Get over it.
Doc close thread.
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
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Nope.
regular rap fans arent here for her Bart Simpson sounding ass, kidnergarten style, Me, Myself and Irene ass raps.
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Member Since: 6/17/2011
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Originally posted by Willy.
That isn't true. Let's not act like the album has a 37 or something on Metacritic.
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Fair enough. I think they're incomparable artists both due to their differences sonically and the market/era they were given to work with.
Missy was hot when Hip Hop burned up the Hot 100 so it makes sense that she stayed true to her sound. Nicki obviously had to make some sacrifices to make it as a front runner in a dance dominated industry ( though I think she over indulged with PF:RR). Nicki is more successful worldwide and a better businesswoman than Missy ever was but I still think Missy still holds the upper hand when it comes to impact/influence. Nicki may get there, it's too soon to tell. Its hard to compare their achievements when the market was so different.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
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Originally posted by MMMinaj
nicki isn't praised though.... should i remind you she had a backlash against her music in the past year.
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Exactly. She won't come close to having the same respect as Missy. Aside from that, her music simply hasn't even begun to become good enough.
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
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Originally posted by ManDown
It's hard to compare the two. They're from two completely different decades.
Missy had it a little easier than Nicki. When Missy was successful, there were several other female rappers (Foxy, Kim, etc) also topping the charts. Female hip hop (and hip hop in general) was more relevant at the time. When Nicki started out, the female rap industry was stagnant. Missy and Kim weren't releasing music, Foxy was deaf, Remy was in prison and all of the other girls just faded away.
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Originally posted by Amaru
Fair enough. I think they're incomparable artists both due to their differences sonically and the market/era they were given to work with.
Missy was hot when Hip Hop was hot so it makes sense that she stayed true to her sound. Nicki obviously had to make some sacrifices to make it as a front runner in a dance dominated industry ( though I think she over indulged with PF:RR). Nicki is more successful worldwide and a better businesswoman than Missy ever was but I still think Missy still holds the upper hand when it comes to impact/influence. Nicki may get there, it's too soon to tell. Its hard to compare their achievements when the market was so different.
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IA with all the points.
The market is just TOO different.
That's like me comparing Frank Ocean to some successful R&B artist from 1995.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by chilluminati
So she's surpassed her in album sales, critical acclaim, general respect in terms of artistry?
Nope.
Nicki hasn't even done anything innovative with her music yet.
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but how could nicki be overrated if she isn't praised?
in terms of impact nicki had a WAY bigger impact than missy. nicki will eventually reach missy's sales, nicki is only 2-3 years into her mainstream career. Super Bass was a CROSSOVER SMASH, it's rare occasions where we get crossover smashes like superbass chart top 5. her music is very different from any other female rapper, it has it's own uniqueness (Sans the pop songs) . for example when have you ever heard another female rapper make a song like superbass? or any rapper in general
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by chilluminati
Exactly. She won't come close to having the same respect as Missy. Aside from that, her music simply hasn't even begun to become good enough.
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well her most recent piece of music (The Re Up) is her most critically acclaimed piece of work yet, you should give it a listen https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/pi...ed/id578441050
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