[2AM]

Originally posted by Heisenberg

It is not all about popularity

I never said it was, but it makes no sense to keep saying "currently" when Katy has been bigger for years and even before TD.
The rest makes little to no sense, I don't feel like breaking it down but it's common misconception after another.

[Katy V.!]

Originally posted by Jaymz

Kelly was the person that made pop-rock popular with her Breakaway album... a genre that is clearly heard on Katy's first album.

So Avril & P!nk never happened? Oh, I didn't know that.

[cheers09]

Originally posted by esteee12

This!!!!! Take note that Katy had to resort to last minute remixes for her number ones. Had Kelly resort to that during breakaway, kelly would have had the same impact(chart wise). We all know Kelly is too honest and kind to do that.

IKAG,HnC,CG,TD,FW,E.T,POM and WA were all last minute remixed? i didnt know that

[esteee12]

Originally posted by Katy V.!

TD sold better than any Kelly album (sans Breakaway) by its 3rd single. You tried though

So what? If we are saying Katy biggest era is teenage dream, her album should be selling on the same level as breakaway. She's just a big singles artist atm.

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by cheers09

TD outsold all of Kelly's album except breakaway. u tried tho

Exactly my point. Kelly remains the singer with the highest selling album.

Originally posted by Squall

I will never get why people say that she has no legacy just because she didn't win Grammy awards, you do realize that, when you are nominated, it's already something really good?

And I can't at you people acting like the US was the World.

I only used the Grammy thing as one reason. And yes, I do realize when you're nominated it's a big deal. Did you realize that Kelly has been nominated more than Katy?

Originally posted by Katy V.!

Wait. Queen never won a Grammy, does that mean they have no legacy?

The failed logic

The inability to understand logic.

Again, not my only point. Of course artists can have a legacy without a Grammy. Unfortunately, I don't see any valid reasons from you Katy stans as to how in the world she has any kind of legacy except for the 5 #1's reason being thrown around everywhere. Great achievement, yes. Legacy? No. Nobody remembers Michael Jackson for that reason and nobody will remember Katy for it either. Try again.

[Squall]

OMG Kelly stans, STOP acting like the GP was worshipping Kelly, because they do not.

[cheers09]

Originally posted by esteee12

So what? If we are saying Katy biggest era is teenage dream, her album should be selling on the same level as breakaway. She's just a big singles artist atm.

you dont know the difference between the climate last 2005 and today?

[Taemira]

Originally posted by Squall

How the hell is it a fact when you're just being stupid and ignorant?

Don't express yourself like that.


Her albums are just considered as pure trash by critics.
She was just nominated not because her singles and TD were amazing, but because her singles were massive.

[cheers09]

Originally posted by MJ Boston

Exactly my point. Kelly remains the singer with the highest selling album.



I only used the Grammy thing as one reason. And yes, I do realize when you're nominated it's a big deal. Did you realize that Kelly has been nominated more than Katy?




The inability to understand logic.

Again, not my only point. Of course artists can have a legacy without a Grammy. Unfortunately, I don't see any valid reasons from you Katy stans as to how in the world she has any kind of legacy except for the 5 #1's reason being thrown around everywhere. Great achievement, yes. Legacy? No. Nobody remembers Michael Jackson for that reason and nobody will remember Katy for it either. Try again.

LOL dont be a hypocrite. you said that Katy has yet to outsell a Kelly album the backtracking

and the backtracking again u said that "how can she have a legacy when she didnt even win a grammy" the backfire

[Mr. Know It All]

Originally posted by Squall

Loooooooool, in your world?

And OOTB is a different album of Breakaway.

Originally posted by cheers09

what are you even talking about you always jump on my post and making me look stupid when ur not even in the conversation

Originally posted by Squall

OMG Kelly stans, STOP acting like the GP was worshipping Kelly, because they do not.

Originally posted by cheers09

LOL dont be a hypocrite. you said that Katy has yet to outsell a Kelly album the backtracking

and the backtracking again u said that "how can she have a legacy when she didnt even win a grammy" the backfire

Apparently schools aren't covering reading comprehension anymore.

[Squall]

Originally posted by MJ Boston

I only used the Grammy thing as one reason. And yes, I do realize when you're nominated it's a big deal. Did you realize that Kelly has been nominated more than Katy?

Wait, can you remind me how many albums does Kelly have? Btw, I didn't say Kelly didn't, I was just saying that you should stop saying that she has no legacy just because she does not have Grammys.

[cheers09]

Originally posted by lifeofpariah

Don't express yourself like that.


Her albums are just considered as pure trash by critics.
She was just nominated not because her singles and TD were amazing, but because her singles were massive.

she is hated by critics because of IKAG and the reviews were all about how she is such an attention ***** by putting out that single

and lol at you knowing all the reasons on how the academy and the critics mind works

[Squall]

Originally posted by Mr. Know It All

Apparently schools aren't covering reading comprehension anymore.

You do realize that there were Pop/Rock albums that were more successful than Breakaway before 2004, right?

And you do know that Katy was already working before OOTB, right?

[cheers09]

Originally posted by Mr. Know It All

Apparently schools aren't covering reading comprehension anymore.

what does that even mean? those are different conversations

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by MJ Boston

Kelly, obviously. And not even because I'm a stan. Some of you Katy stans are truly blinded by your stanship. Katy might be more popular than Kelly currently, but that in no way shape or form means she has a bigger legacy. What exactly is her legacy? She doesn't even have a Grammy award.
I love Katy as a person and her songs are fun, but let's not. She doesn't have an album that has sold as much as Kelly. Doesn't have the vocal acclaim, the decade in the industry, etc. etc.

Originally posted by cheers09

LOL dont be a hypocrite. you said that Katy has yet to outsell a Kelly album the backtracking

and the backtracking again u said that "how can she have a legacy when she didnt even win a grammy" the backfire

Oh dear. Check again. What you put in quotations is not at all what I said. Do brush up on your reading comprehension.

I said Katy doesn't have an album that has sold as much as Kelly. No backtracking. Katy does not have an 11+ million selling album. I said she doesn't even have a Grammy. Which is true. But I did not say one MUST have a Grammy to have a legacy. It's just one point. Having one would at least help one's case for a legacy.

[Mr. Know It All]

Originally posted by Squall

You do realize that there were Pop/Rock albums that were more successful than Breakaway before 2004, right?

And you do know that Katy was already working before OOTB, right?

Originally posted by cheers09

what does that even mean? those are different conversations

Yes, my point exactly.

[umich]

omg, what is this thread

[cheers09]

Originally posted by MJ Boston

Oh dear. Check again. What you put in quotations is not at all what I said. Do brush up on your reading comprehension.

lol gerl dont even talk to me about comprehension. i know i didnt quote it perfectly but they're the same thing.
and everyone here knows it

[Squall]

Originally posted by lifeofpariah

Don't express yourself like that.


Her albums are just considered as pure trash by critics.
She was just nominated not because her singles and TD were amazing, but because her singles were massive.

My God, why are you acting like you knew everything and were a part of the jury?

[Katy V.!]

Originally posted by esteee12

So what? If we are saying Katy biggest era is teenage dream, her album should be selling on the same level as breakaway. She's just a big singles artist atm.

No it shouldn't. They werent released in the same time/music industry. Look at how your fave keeps failing to sell 2m WW.