[Brave]

Originally posted by MOCKery

Another thing you don't know is how to spell out Y-O-U.

wtf? whatever now u are bjust finding stupid things 2 argue about

[Kelly_Rocks]

Let me get all your facts straight. Kelly won 2 grammys. She didnt release Gone as a single. She has sold more than 10 million. She is 8x platinum worldwide. Get this in Israli she had 2 concerts there and both with 10,000 seats in the first 4 days of each concert she was soldout. You cant sit here saying stuff when u dont know the facts. Kelly isnt better than Britney or xtina. Kellys album has been out longer than Mariahs but who would have known that its still in the top 20 of billboards 200. I wouldnt argue until u get your facts straight. Congrats Kelly Im a fan of yours.

[Brave]

are u from israel?

[Ay ya ya]

Originally posted by Kelly_Rocks

Let me get all your facts straight. Kelly won 2 grammys. She didnt release Gone as a single. She has sold more than 10 million. She is 8x platinum worldwide. Get this in Israli she had 2 concerts there and both with 10,000 seats in the first 4 days of each concert she was soldout. You cant sit here saying stuff when u dont know the facts. Kelly isnt better than Britney or xtina. Kellys album has been out longer than Mariahs but who would have known that its still in the top 20 of billboards 200. I wouldnt argue until u get your facts straight. Congrats Kelly Im a fan of yours.

We're fighting Kelly vs. Shakira here, but I'm glad someone is with me on this (sorta)

[Toy Soldier]

Originally posted by MOCKery

Sales = lame and pointless.

Shakira is better than Kelly Clarkson regardless of how many God damn albums they sold. Get over it, people. Each and every year sales are declining for EVERYBODY, so I don't see what's so important about them anymore. They matter, sometimes, but it's stupid to bring them up when it comes to liking the actual music.

OH NO, I'M BARDGING INTO A POP MUSIC THREAD!!! I'M GOING TO HELL!!! (Kiss my ass, Gerry. And like it.)

wow, i'm shocked you like shakira.

but i gotta agree, shakira's slighty better than kelly.

[Kelly_Rocks]

No Im not from Isreli but go to google and type Kelly Clarkson and hit news and it'll come up.

[Kelly_Rocks]

I keep on spelling Israel wrong. Im so sorry.

[Nick]

Honestly, isn't it all a matter of personal preference? How are you going to argue that one is better than the other when CLEARLY certain people are going to have a certain favorite regardless of how much they've sold? Seriously this is ridiculous...I feel like closing it but I don't want to be crucified

[Exodus]

Originally posted by MOCKery

Shakira is better than Kelly Clarkson regardless of how many God damn albums they sold.

Opinion Johnny, not everyone is going to agree with you. Besides, I know (everyone pretty much) that you will practically choose anyone over Kelly Clarkson, cuz you fathom her for absolutely no reason, as I find nothing that can be disliked about her. Suppose you dislike her music, at least she has talent and decent personality, which is not at all conceited. Either way, its fine that you think that, but I whole-heartedly disagree.

[SHADE 45]

Originally posted by Exodus

Opinion Johnny, not everyone is going to agree with you. Besides, I know (everyone pretty much) that you will practically choose anyone over Kelly Clarkson, cuz you fathom her for absolutely no reason, as I find nothing that can be disliked about her. Suppose you dislike her music, at least she has talent and decent personality, which is not at all conceited. Either way, its fine that you think that, but I whole-heartedly disagree.

That's your opinion

Mine is that Kelly was ok at first, then got played so much that she got way too annoying (especially BTHE)

[JDM]

Originally posted by Exodus

Opinion Johnny, not everyone is going to agree with you. Besides, I know (everyone pretty much) that you will practically choose anyone over Kelly Clarkson, cuz you fathom her for absolutely no reason, as I find nothing that can be disliked about her. Suppose you dislike her music, at least she has talent and decent personality, which is not at all conceited. Either way, its fine that you think that, but I whole-heartedly disagree.

"Opinion Johnny, not everyone is going to agree with you."

Take your own advice, hypocrite.

[Kelly_Rocks]

Kelly gets played to much. Yeah right. I dont see u guys complaining about Mariah, Chris Brown, Kanye West, Beyonce and Neyo. Its only Kelly 24/7. The most overplayed song of hers was Since U Been Gone. The other songs were all like every 45 to 60 minutes. Which is how they usually do it. Since U Been Gone was played every 25 minutes.

P.S. Thats how the radio stations are in my area.

[Exodus]

Originally posted by MOCKery

"Opinion Johnny, not everyone is going to agree with you."

Take your own advice, hypocrite.

ahh, once again attacked by Shade and Johnny. How predicatable? If you read the whole thing I believe I mentioned that that was fine?

[Brian.]

Originally posted by mig123

shakira has sold 5 million with 2 international singles in less than 1 year.....with 2 cd's....not with 6 singles ........... 3.5 million with FO1.....1.5 million with OF2.... and some people dare to call her a flop because they are separating the albums........ when its just 2 singles


kelly is just known in USA ,UK, Australia.............she should be happy she has the big markets........after that she not that big...... 5 million in USA....1 million uk........1 other million rest of the world... 7 million WW.....not 8 by the way i have the album

*ignoring everything else going on in this thread*

You don't listen, do you ?

Breakaway
Studio album
Released: November 30, 2004 (North America)
U.S. peak position: No. 3
Canadian peak position: No. 6
UK peak position: No. 3
Australian peak position: No. 2
Irish peak position: No. 1
Dutch peak position: No. 1
Indonesian peak position: No. 1
RIAA Certification: 5x Platinum
Certifications:
Ireland (7x Platinum)
Australia (6x platinum)
Canada (4x Platinum)
United Kingdom/New Zealand (3x Platinum)
South Africa/Indonesia (Platinum)
Sweden/Belgium (Gold)
U.S. sales: 4.8+ million
Worldwide sales: 8 million

This is just a portion of it all. Kelly is now an INTERNATIONAL artist. Face it. I seriously don't understand why you have the need to go against her. She's not even Shakira's core competition.

BTW, avoid exaggerating Shakira's sales. Laundry Service sold 13 Million worldwide, not 14 Million. And she did NOT sell over 30 Million at all.

Some may argue that discussing sales are pointless, that's your opinion. To me, they stand for an artist's popularity and, obviously, I have a habit of comparing. That shouldn't bother anyone. I come here to discuss music and sales. I'd appreciate it if I was left alone for doing so.

[Sir. Will]

I don't like these threads, but I will say, Mariah Carey should be on that list somewhere, same with Madonna. Don't they both have like huge hit singles, uchem, "Fantasy" and "Like A Prayer"?

[SHADE 45]

Originally posted by Kelly_Rocks

Kelly gets played to much. Yeah right. I dont see u guys complaining about Mariah, Chris Brown, Kanye West, Beyonce and Neyo. Its only Kelly 24/7. The most overplayed song of hers was Since U Been Gone. The other songs were all like every 45 to 60 minutes. Which is how they usually do it. Since U Been Gone was played every 25 minutes.

P.S. Thats how the radio stations are in my area.

1. We don't complain here cuz this is a Kelly thread
2. Kanye, Mariah, and Ne-Yo are good to me
3. Chris Brown and Beyonce are overplayed but not as much as Kelly is

[Brian.]

Originally posted by SHADE 45

3. Chris Brown and Beyonce are overplayed but not as much as Kelly is

None of Kelly's song have been played as much as Chris Brown's or Beyonce's. I have no idea what you're talking about.

You do realize "Run It" is has had more airplay than any of Kelly's songs according to statistics and my ears. And were you just born, Beyonce's "Check On It" is only the 3rd song to cross over the 200 Million audience mark during a week. Have you also forgotten "Crazy In Love" & "Baby Boy". Now those are excellent example of overplaying.

[mig123]

Originally posted by B.R.I.A.N.

This is just a portion of it all. Kelly is now an INTERNATIONAL artist. Face it. I seriously don't understand why you have the need to go against her. She's not even Shakira's core competition.

BTW, avoid exaggerating Shakira's sales. Laundry Service sold 13 Million worldwide, not 14 Million. And she did NOT sell over 30 Million at all.

13.5 million......... i rounded it off to 14

Magia : 1k
Peligro: 1k
Pies Descalzos : 5 million
The Remixes : 1 million
Donde estan Los Ladrones : 6 million
MTV unplugged: 2 million
Laundry Service: 13.5 million
Grandes Exito : 300k
Live & off the record: 2 million
Fijacion Oral: 3.5 million (still on promotion)
Oral Fixation : 1.5 million ( still on promotion)

Ill let you do the math

[Sir. Will]

Originally posted by B.R.I.A.N.

Have you also forgotten "Crazy In Love" & "Baby Boy". Now those are excellent example of overplaying.

Oh wow, Memory Lane. I love those songs how can I forget them?! Baby boy, Crazy In Love, Work It out <333

[Kelly_Rocks]

Is the 14 million world wide sales or US sales? Either way she made 11 albums and sold 14 million while Kelly made 2 albums and has sold 7 million copies in the US. Lets not forget Breakaway is not done yet. Worldwide she has sold 10 million. I love Shakira and Im a huge fan. So Im not trying to make another look good.