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Discussion: Is committing suicide selfish?
Member Since: 10/15/2011
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
You don't solve your problems though by committing suicide do you? Yes you can say its selfish for someone to not want someone to commit suicide, but how is the person committing suicide not selfish. They are suffering so they choose to end their life and just to begin a new suffering in MANY OTHERS.
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People who commit suicide dont think they CAN solve their problems. And believe it or not, some of them cant. There ARE people who dont have family, or friends. Or people who do, and they just dont give a **** about that person. Not all people will suffer when that person dies, and they know that, so thats why they do it. They dont have any anchors to bind them here. (Saying this for some cases, not all.)
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Originally posted by TerraLogan
People who commit suicide dont think they CAN solve their problems. And believe it or not, some of them cant. There ARE people who dont have family, or friends. Or people who do, and they just dont give a **** about that person. Not all people will suffer when that person dies, and they know that, so thats why they do it. They dont have any anchors to bind them here. (Saying this for some cases, not all.)
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 sis preach the truth
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Originally posted by TerraLogan
People who commit suicide dont think they CAN solve their problems. And believe it or not, some of them cant. There ARE people who dont have family, or friends. Or people who do, and they just dont give a **** about that person. Not all people will suffer when that person dies, and they know that, so thats why they do it. They dont have any anchors to bind them here. (Saying this for some cases, not all.)
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Yes if anything the only thing we concluded in this thread is that it depends on the situation.
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depending on the circumstances yes it is most of the time. Suicide is just running away from your problems, your problems will still follow you.
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Yes my grandfather hung himself I had to cut him down from a tree. My life got so much worse after that if he only knew how much he meant to the family.
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Yes, ultimately, but it's pretty stupid/unproductive to approach the issue from that angle.
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I really hate using the term selfish for suicide.  They're choosing to end their life because they're not happy and convinced that they never will be. I mean yes they're not thinking about everyone else, but it's an inner issue with themself. Half of the time they think it would just be better for everyone if they did end their life. Unless its for attention, it doesn't come across as selfish to me. 
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It depends really 
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no. If they're suffering that badly that they want to end their own life, how in the world is that selfish? It's more selfish to let them suffer. It's their life, and their pain that they are going through, and they should just deal with that for other peoples benefit? Life comes with choices, and it's more selfish to not let them make their own choice on what they want to do. You can't spend your life trying to make others happy, especially when you are just so miserable.
and, another little side note, a lot of these people wouldn't feel like anyone would miss them if they were gone anyway.
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
Yes, ultimately, but it's pretty stupid/unproductive to approach the issue from that angle.
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This to be honest.
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Not really. I mean he people around you must have not done enough to stop you from committing suicide. They deserve to grieve and suffer from your loss
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Originally posted by Hotshot
Not really. I mean he people around you must have not done enough to stop you from committing suicide. They deserve to grieve and suffer from your loss
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 :rip what can of thought? that pretty much means "you guys should suffer if you don't love me enough" hence thus bringing back everything to the self. In the end though it matters what the situation is but alot of the times I think people need to realize people have it a lot worse than they do, but if they are already having suicidal thoughts they probably aren't thinking about that.
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With that logic, is just dying selfish too? People will be upset whether you die naturally, are murderered or take your own life.
If someone wants to take their own life, it's their call. They no longer have a wish to live. It sounds selfish to me that someone would think that was selfish. Think about the pain they could be going trough.
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Originally posted by princedonte
Yes my grandfather hung himself I had to cut him down from a tree. My life got so much worse after that if he only knew how much he meant to the family.
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I'm sorry to hear that. My grandfather attempted to slit his throat with a knife and hang himself. He is suffering from mental conditions though. My grandmother found him and took him into the hospital. He now lives in a nursing home and my grandma lives alone. 
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Originally posted by zach
With that logic, is just dying selfish too? People will be upset whether you die naturally, are murderered or take your own life.
If someone wants to take their own life, it's their call. They no longer have a wish to live. It sounds selfish to me that someone would think that was selfish. Think about the pain they could be going trough.
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Dying is irrelevant as you can't stop that. But you can decide whether to commit suicide or not. Alot of you say "imagine the pain they are going through" but imagine the pain that goes through ALOT of people as they find out they committed suicide. In the end though it depends on the situation. If you are alone and you have no one around you which I highly doubt then its okay. But when people decide to commit suicide I hope they think about the effects it will have on everyone they know because they just spread their sadness to everyone else.
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Member Since: 7/18/2010
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Originally posted by GlitterfiedCyrus
no. If they're suffering that badly that they want to end their own life, how in the world is that selfish? It's more selfish to let them suffer. It's their life, and their pain that they are going through, and they should just deal with that for other peoples benefit? Life comes with choices, and it's more selfish to not let them make their own choice on what they want to do. You can't spend your life trying to make others happy, especially when you are just so miserable.
and, another little side note, a lot of these people wouldn't feel like anyone would miss them if they were gone anyway.
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This post. 
And I mean, I'm not saying that I support people taking their own lives.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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The sooner we stop glorifying the action and making it seem like an acceptable solution to problems tha apparently have no solution, the sooner people will stop considering it one.
Sometimes "a little understanding" is counter-productive.
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It's a dilemma, honestly. 
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Originally posted by Hotshot
Not really. I mean he people around you must have not done enough to stop you from committing suicide. They deserve to grieve and suffer from your loss
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Just...
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Not if it is done kamikaze. 
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