[Darren-5-08]

Originally posted by Glam

So damn agressive, but it's to be expected

Either way it's delusional to think Gaga would've sold 6 million albums if piracy didn't exist. The highest selling album ever was by Utada and it only sold 3 million in a week. To think Gaga would've sold 6 million albums in a week it's stupid.

No-one said she would have...

[NaughtyDog]

I will wait for more receipts but even so

truly amazing, this bitch dominates anything she touches
****ing queen

Originally posted by Nick29

You'd think it wouldn't have fallen out of the top 100 best seller list on Amazon already, it didn't even make it into the top 30.

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-B...t_3_11056931#5

Why would people buy a NEW perfume from Amazon unless they are blind sheep, people need to smell it first before they purchase. Unless Amazon now ships scent strips

[Gagamon]

salying

[Vespertine]

Originally posted by Nick29

You'd think it wouldn't have fallen out of the top 100 best seller list on Amazon already, it didn't even make it into the top 30.

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-B...t_3_11056931#5

It's a brand new perfume... people will want to smell it in person before buying. I would never order cologne online unless I was just restocking on a bottle I already know I love.

[Glam]

Originally posted by Darren-5-08

No-one said she would have...

But this girl implied it:

Originally posted by LDYGG

No, you're not thinking at all because this makes no sense. People who want to buy perfume =/= people who want to buy music. If people could illegally download this perfume, it'd sell as much as BTW did.

By that same logic Adele's 21 would've sold 72 million albums before the digital era

[Lyzz the Monster]

At people getting clocked

[YSL]

Originally posted by Nick29

You'd think it wouldn't have fallen out of the top 100 best seller list on Amazon already, it didn't even make it into the top 30.

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-B...t_3_11056931#5

Not you trying that approach again. Amazon isn't the only the place people buy fragrances, especially for a NEW fragrance that you have to smell first in order to decide if you want to buy it. There's also the factor that people want to see the fragrance go from black to clear in person.

Your argument would be valid if the #1 perfume on Amazon wasn't from 2005 and obviously way past its peak.

[Darren-5-08]

Originally posted by Glam

But this girl implied it:



By that same logic Adele's 21 would've sold 72 million albums before the digital era

I don't think that was the intention She was basically saying that the perfume would've sold less could it be illegally downloaded...

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by Glam

By that same logic Adele's 21 would've sold 72 million albums before the digital era

It would have sold way more than what is has, that's for sure.

[Nick29]

Originally posted by dyylannn

It's a brand new perfume... people will want to smell it in person before buying. I would never order cologne online unless I was just restocking on a bottle I already know I love.

I'm sorry if your actually selling 6 million in one week that is going to make itself felt on Amazon. People can smell it in store then buy it much cheaper at Amazon.com.

[Mr Telephone Man]

Originally posted by Glam

I don't believe it.

Maybe 6 million were shipped but not sold yet. She only managed to sell 2 million $10 albums in a week (440k of them at 99 cents) and with much more hype.

It's a very big stretch that she actually did this, but in the end Euromonitor International, will reveal all. I mean...the idea that the Top 10 Celebrity Fragrance lines in the US combined, didn't even equal to that for the past 5 years (yearly), keeping in mind the proportion of US Sales versus any other country, in this market, is the majority....is interesting to say the least. But hey, we shall see

[Quietly Trek]

For all the pressed souls: Most of the revenue will go to Coty. However, the paycheck she'll get will still probably be larger than most other pop artists get with an album.

[Praise Mariallah]

I can't @ gurls rushing in here to say it's all a lie with their Amazon/BTW/BB200/iTunes receipts. Do ya'll know how serious females are about perfume? Every other girl I know has a perfume collection, and NONE of us have ever bought perfumes without smelling/spritzing in the store first.

[Glam]

Originally posted by MrPeanut

It would have sold way more than what is has, that's for sure.

But you don't know that. I believe that because Gaga and Adele are perceived as "worthwhile" artists by the GP they feel like they're worth the purchase in a similar-ish proportion an artist would've sold albums before the digital age, which is of course very commendable in this era.

[LDYGG]

Originally posted by Nick29

You'd think it wouldn't have fallen out of the top 100 best seller list on Amazon already, it didn't even make it into the top 30.

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-B...t_3_11056931#5

But, uhm, Amazon's not even a big part of the perfume industry. Department stores like Macy's, Bloomingdales, Dillards, and Nordstrom's are the biggest perfume distributors...

Originally posted by Glam

But this girl implied it:

By that same logic Adele's 21 would've sold 72 million albums before the digital era

Yes, if you could not illegally download, "21" would have sold twice or three times as many copies. That's commons sense.

Also, no one even implied BTW would have sold 6m copies in one week without piracy. Once again, perfume =/= CD. Perfumes appeal to absolutely everyone, where as pop music does not.

This is all common sense.

Edit: Lol at you having to bring up BTW because you can't insult the perfume's success.

[MrPeanut]

Originally posted by Glam

But you don't know that. I believe that because Gaga and Adele are perceived as "worthwhile" artists by the GP they feel like they're worth the purchase in a similar-ish proportion an artist would've sold albums before the digital age, which is of course very commendable in this era.

Well no you can never proof beyond a doubt an alternative scenario, but it isn't far-fetched to look at what the biggest albums sold 10-20 years ago compared to what they do now and realize everyone's sales today have been significantly hampered by piracy. Perhaps Adele is hurt less than others due to the type of audience to which she appeals, but I have no doubt if she had the benefit of the 80-90s sales market she would have sold even more with 21.

[Nick29]

Originally posted by Mr Telephone Man

It's a very big stretch that she actually did this, but in the end Euromonitor International, will reveal all. I mean...the idea that Top 10 Celebrity Fragrance lines in the US combined, didn't even equal to that for the past 5 years (yearly), keeping in mind the proportion of US Sales versus any other country, in this market, is the majority....is interesting to say the least. But hey, we shall see

And they think she did this in one week. It's so retarted it's almost beyond comprehension.

[Quietly Trek]

Originally posted by YSL

Not you trying that approach again. Amazon isn't the only the place people buy fragrances, especially for a NEW fragrance that you have to smell first in order to decide if you want to buy it. There's also the factor that people want to see the fragrance go from black to clear in person.

Your argument would be valid if the #1 perfume on Amazon wasn't from 2005 and obviously way past its peak.

Flawless clocking, lol. No one should purchase fragrances online unless you've actually smelled them beforehand.

[reppingBey]

Slaying as usual

[Harajuku]

Originally posted by Praise Mariallah

I can't @ gurls rushing in here to say it's all a lie with their Amazon/BTW/BB200/iTunes receipts. Do ya'll know how serious females are about perfume? Every other girl I know has a perfume collection, and NONE of us have ever bought perfumes without smelling/spritzing in the store first.

Exactly. Every girl loves a good smelling perfume not to mention girls aren't the only ones buying her fragrance...