[Jennifer]

In The Zone didnt sell 10 million, lol. It's between 7.5 and 8 million.

What made that era so successful was the singles (all 3 #1 and for multiple weeks), the fact that Toxic and Everytime were two of her best reviewed/acclaimed songs that became adored by fans and non-fans, the great performances, videos, and choreography, and lastly it was a return to form bc ALL the singles from the Britney album went largely unnoticed, despite that album still selling a lot.

ITZ is one of the major reasons her GH sold so much (6.5 million+) just a year later. She really redeemed herself in a lot of Euro/Asian countries.

The BTW era sold all it's **** in the first few weeks, all due to previous success. The damage this era did is already showing but just wait till next time...

[chris1991]

In The Zone!!!!!! No comparison here!
The fact that 3 of its singles are morw Iconic than 5 of btw.

Plus all 3 went #1 WW

[dinorel]

"ITZ" = 100 votes

CLOSED THREAD.

[CaptainMusic]

Why are people saying ITZ ONLY sold 7.5-8 million worldwide like those sales are terrible?

Those sales are not far off from Beyonce's DIL so i'm confused. Let's not forget that the album only had 3 singles and Britney didn't even get to finish promoting it.

The absolute nerve of some Gaga stans when her next album will struggle to outsell 'Circus'.

[paulyyyozd]

even though ITZ's winning, it's not fair to compare them, just because BTW was released 1 year ago, it's still fresh and everyone is talking about it and Gaga is a huge popstar right now so it may seem that it was bigger and delusional stans can't take in the facts

[Remixed]

Born This Way, especially in this sales climate/how risky it was.

[Monroe]

Originally posted by Hustle.

The radio ban for Britney ended before "Me Against The Music" came out and her concert tour was sponsored by Clear Channel Communications. Her singles should have performed better than they actually did.

How? Britney only had airplay to help her songs chart on the Hot 100, do you realize that if Gaga only had airplay to help her songs chart she likely wouldn't even have a top 10 hit? The fact that Britney had hits despite only having airplay in her favor only shows us how big those hits really were. Think about what you are comparing. Toxic is huge because it was a big hit without digital sales being factored on the Hot 100.

Even her opening night show was no where near being sold out. There's really no comparison to that tour and The Born This Way Ball.

That statement is incorrect her first date had 80-90% of it's tickets completely sold out and the tour sold well through out with an attendence rate upwards of 90%. The only reason the tour didn't gross more then it did was because the tour was cancelled after her knee injury. She was losing upwards of 1 million dollars per date because she couldn't complete the tour, she had to cancel more then 40 dates because of the injury. Had she completed the tour she would have grossed around 70 million dollars, which in 2004 was a pretty big deal. Christina and Justin at that time grossed remarkably less, even when they toured together.

ITZ was another significant drop sales wise for Britney, too. The fact that the albums have nearly sold the same amount worldwide despite ITZ being released in 2003 really says it all.

In The Zone has sold/shipped a total of 10 million copies. So you are off about that as well.

Originally posted by Shinning

How much did In The Zone sell?

It's shipped/sold around 10 million copies worldwide, it's scanned probably around 8 million.

Originally posted by Sound Check

Born This Way. Britney's star was starting to fade big time, (her next studio album was Blackout) and her only memorable song was "Toxic" (albeit it is one of her 5 best songs). "Born This Way" and "The Edge of Glory" were huge hits for GaGa WW, and "You & I" did remarkably well in the U.S. for being a country/rock song from an electro/pop singer.

The only song that did better then the singles off of In The Zone was Born This Way -- which was #1 for 7 weeks. Everytime, Me Against The Music and Toxic were all bigger hits and all reached #1, which is something that can't be said for Born This Way singles Judas, Edge Of Glory, You &I and Marry The Night. Me Against The Music was #1 for 4 weeks, Toxic for 5 and Everytime for 1. Overall In The Zone's singles performed much better then the singles for Born This Way.

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

Oh, give me a break. Born This Way sold more copies in its first week, month, six months, 12 months and to date than In The Zone did in the same period of time WW despite the massive decline in record sales.

That's because she sold her album for .99 cents when it was first released. That gave her a massive increase in sales.

And even the most inflated Britney statistics had her at 7-7.5M in 2008.

Jive had shipped/sold 8 million copies of In The Zone by July of 2004 and In The Zone is one of the most popular Britney albums that still sells in the US. Safe to say in general you are wrong in terms of chart performance In The Zone was bigger. It's that simple. If you take shipments as sales then BTW would be at 8 million and In The Zone at 10 million -- if you look for raw sales Gaga is still on the low side at 6 million vs. 8 million. In terms of singles performance Britney had 3 global #1's compared to 1 global #1 for Gaga that era. The only thing Gaga wins at is touring, and that's because she had more completed dates and because ticket prices have increased ten-fold since 2004. You are comparing apples and oranges in order to give Gaga a win. Either way in terms of album sales and single performances Britney wins.

[Crazytowel]

With 3 #1 singles it's clearly ITZ.

[paulyyyozd]

Originally posted by Remixed

Born This Way, especially in this sales climate/how risky it was.

please

[hector.adriel]

Originally posted by HausOfA-M

BTW ammassed 1.3M more points there. Guess it had stronger competition.

You still don't get it don't you? In 2004 there was no digital power. BTW came out in the digital era peak, of course it'll have more points cause it sold more, but 1.3M in differnce isn't really that much of a difference when you take into account what I just said.

[hector.adriel]

Originally posted by Remixed

Born This Way, especially in this sales climate/how risky it was.

If risky what we're talking about, then ITZ was risky too, it was way ahead of its time.

[NOW]

Aside from the sales, ITZ gave Britney arguably her best song/video ever. BTW did not for Gaga. So ITZ.

[RobynYoBank]

Originally posted by Monroe

In The Zone has sold/shipped a total of 10 million copies. So you are off about that as well.



It's shipped/sold around 10 million copies worldwide, it's scanned probably around 8 million.



The only song that did better then the singles off of In The Zone was Born This Way -- which was #1 for 7 weeks. Everytime, Me Against The Music and Toxic were all bigger hits and all reached #1, which is something that can't be said for Born This Way singles Judas, Edge Of Glory, You &I and Marry The Night. Me Against The Music was #1 for 4 weeks, Toxic for 5 and Everytime for 1. Overall In The Zone's singles performed much better then the singles for Born This Way.



That's because she sold her album for .99 cents when it was first released. That gave her a massive increase in sales.



Jive had shipped/sold 8 million copies of In The Zone by July of 2004 and In The Zone is one of the most popular Britney albums that still sells in the US. Safe to say in general you are wrong in terms of chart performance In The Zone was bigger. It's that simple. If you take shipments as sales then BTW would be at 8 million and In The Zone at 10 million -- if you look for raw sales Gaga is still on the low side at 6 million vs. 8 million. In terms of singles performance Britney had 3 global #1's compared to 1 global #1 for Gaga that era. The only thing Gaga wins at is touring, and that's because she had more completed dates and because ticket prices have increased ten-fold since 2004. You are comparing apples and oranges in order to give Gaga a win. Either way in terms of album sales and single performances Britney wins.

No, you're the one trying to twist things. You didn't even read my post, or decided that you were smart enough to weasel around every statement in it. Whether you're comparing first week, first month, first 12 months or first 16 month sales, Gaga's album always wins, despite the fact that album sales were way hugher when ITZ was released. You can even take out the 400K amazon sales and it still sold more in its first year of release than ITZ did. If you compare the album sales relatively, there's absolutely no competition since Britney's wasn't even in the top 10 albums in the world it's first year of release. Gaga's single positions are higher in every case. Born This Way hit #1 in way more countries than toxic. The Edge Of Glory and Judas had more top 10s than any of the other singles off of ITZ. And just give up on the touring argument. Gaga is obliterating her and will make more with the first X amount of dates than she did so don't try to pull that more dates bull****. And don't try to act like ticket prices are enough to count for the difference either, because even taking into account a rise in ticket prices (which is misleading, because ticket prices have dropped for the past 3 years as a result of the recession) and inflation, her tour for ITZ isn't overcoming the gross differences unless you also twist that into some "well if you only consider average grosses in west Alabama which is all that matters, ITZ wins again!" bull****. And I was never talking about albums shipped, I was talking about albums sold.

[Monroe]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

Whether you're comparing first week, first month, first 12 months or first 16 month sales, Gaga's album always wins, despite the fact that album sales were way hugher when ITZ was released.

Do you genuinely believe that Born This Way is going to sell 9 million copies or that it is going to ship an excess of 11 million? That is what she would have to do in order to out perform In The Zone in terms of album sales and she has not done either at the moment. Thus as of now In The Zone is bigger then Born This Way. As to your post about Gaga getting their first, In The Zone sold 6 million by the summer of 2004 which means that in less then 6 months In The Zone sold over 6 million copies. Born This Way did not sell 6 million until well after March of this year which would mean it took BTW upwards of 10 months to sell 6 million copies. Quelle surprise! Your facts are wrong yet again.

You can even take out the 400K amazon sales and it still sold more in its first year of release than ITZ did.

Wrong again. And it was also closer to 500k. If you subtracted 500k from Born This Way's sales it would barely reach 6 million at all.

If you compare the album sales relatively, there's absolutely no competition since Britney's wasn't even in the top 10 albums in the world it's first year of release.

Britney's album was released in the middle of November it had little to no time to accumulate a total for it to get into the top 10 that's why she wasn't in the top 10 albums of 2003 or 2004. Because she released her album too late for it to have a chance to get into the top 10. That happens with most releases that release their albums late in the fourth quarter. Gaga released her album earlier during the Summer and thus she had ample amount of weeks to accumulate sales within the calendar year, she had less ground to cover/make up in comparison to Britney's In The Zone which only had 7 weeks compared to releases that had 30+ weeks or more on the album charts for that yearly cycle.

Gaga's single positions are higher in every case.

No they aren't. In The Zone had three #1 global hits. While Born This Way only had 1. You fail at math.

Born This Way hit #1 in way more countries than toxic.

That's because more countries have iTunes and official charts now then they did when Toxic was released in 2004. Are you going to say that Madonna's MDNA is more successful then Born This Way because it hit #1 in more countries then the latter because more countries established an official chart this year then the last? That's what your logic sounds like. Toxic, Everytime and Me Against The Music were #1 songs for multiple weeks in 2003 and 2004, that means they beat out all the other competition those weeks to get the #1 spot, which is something Edge Of Glory, Judas, You & I and Marry The Night were not able to do.

Gaga is obliterating her and will make more with the first X amount of dates than she did so don't try to pull that more dates bull****.

You still don't understand the fact that tickets in general cost more now then they did 8 years ago. There's no use comparing the tours because it's a completely different ball game now in terms of gross then it was back then. Are you going to tell me Gaga is a more successful touring artist then Micheal Jackson now because she grossed more? Looking at numbers arbitrarily and without context is stupid. Madonna and Micheal's tours in the 80's and 90's were hugely successful but they could never compare to the numbers of acts today in terms of raw numbers because ticket prices have gone threw the roof compared to what they were even 10 years ago.

[Cefh]

BTW

[Ivan_brit]

In the Zone was an amazing era!!!
3 Epic singles, amazing videos + is my fave Britney album!

[Kool_Aid_King]

Everytime & Toxic did get Britney some Critical acclaim. If you guys want to compare critical acclaim, Britney & GaGa are probably tied.

[Rico Shameless v2]

Originally posted by HausOfJabril

Born This Way obviously. Britney lost her radio support in or before the ITZ era. One of her most memorable singles, Toxic, didn't even go #1.

LOL. 'In The Zone' reignited Britney's radio flame. "Toxic" went No. 1 on radio and "Everytime" top five. "Toxic" didn't go No. 1 on the Hot 100 due to obvious reasons. People like you shouldn't be one of the first posts in this type of conversation.

Anyway, Britney was more successful. 'In The Zone' simply did a lot for Britney's career from the critically acclaimed singles, their huge successes, the massive sales for the album. It would've only been bigger had it not been for the unfortunate knee injury.

'Born This Way' further killed Gaga's momentum that she had perfectly built in her debut years, a type of momentum Britney and company kept going for over three albums. The only thing it has behind it are the first week of "Born This Way" (and selling terribly afterwards) and the controversial first week sales of the album (and selling terribly afterwards). After that? "The Edge of Glory" will be a cute Sports staple for a couple more years.

[Jabril]

Originally posted by Aaron

It's asking who had the most success WORLDWIDE.

Originally posted by hector.adriel

You still don't get we're talking about WORLDWIDE SUCCESS, don't you?

So the #1 music market in the world doesn't contribute to WW success?

[Kool_Aid_King]

Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2

LOL. 'In The Zone' reignited Britney's radio flame. "Toxic" went No. 1 on radio and "Everytime" top five. "Toxic" didn't go No. 1 on the Hot 100 due to obvious reasons. People like you shouldn't be one of the first posts in this type of conversation.

Toxic didn't go #1 on radio,