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Poll: Is Shakira More Global Than MOST of the Pop Girls?
View Poll Results: Is she?
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Yes.
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No.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
Posts: 27,791
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Originally posted by Beautiful Sinner
False. Britney had 3 WW #1's with her first album alone.
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And she has 9 #1 hits in total which is the second highest amount for a female artist so i'm not sure what he was talking about...
Anyway though. I'll agree that Shakira IS global just not anywhere as global as you guys are making it seem like she is. Agree to disagree.
![](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fHsVqDjsbWM/TpOX7hzB6FI/AAAAAAAACo4/gc8QJIKdHVA/s401/rhobh-brandi-whatever.gif)
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Member Since: 4/11/2012
Posts: 19,069
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But she's only had like 6/7 big hits... ![confused](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Originally posted by Acclaimed
Britney has about 4
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Oh wait i missed this.
What are the 4 continents that Britney is irrelevant in? ![deadbanana3](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/bananas/deadbanana3_zpsa2d36eca.gif)
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Member Since: 3/6/2011
Posts: 932
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Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainMusic
Oh wait i missed this.
What are the 4 continents that Britney is irrelevant in? ![deadbanana3](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/bananas/deadbanana3_zpsa2d36eca.gif)
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Europe. South America. Oceania. Asia.
Europe: She sells nothing compared to Gaga, Shaki or Rih.
South America: Let's not go there, just for Britney's sake. Shaki sells 95% more than her here as we all know. So irrelevant.
Oceania: She's not really popular there as she used to be, they go crazy for P!nk tho'.
Asia: Asia belongs to Gaga, Britney only has her die-hard fans left there, and they're decreasing.
She's slowly becoming more and more irrelevant. ![rip](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRLSmilies/rip_zpsec10ede9.gif)
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Member Since: 10/16/2005
Posts: 16,872
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Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainMusic
These are all terrible chart positions. Thanks for proving my point........
And no her not being from an english speaking country doesn't mean anything, not here for people using that as an excuse in THIS case when we're discussing how global she is.
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Your point is to drag Shakira regardless.
#11 for a Spanish album in Canada is not "terrible" ![rolleyes](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif) . Neither is #7 on the U.S. Billboard Top 200.
The singles are Top 40. It's better than an utter absence.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Just because she doesn't do AS well in some continents as other artist doesn't mean she's completely irrelevant there like Shakira is in North America and Oceania.
Talk about reaching............
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Originally posted by Acclaimed
Europe:
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She's far from being irrelevant there when FF and its singles did well in several european countries.
Shakira is much bigger here YES, but Britney is NOT irrelevant in South America. FF and its singles did well in most south american countries.
Just because she's not as popular as she used to be there doesn't mean she's irrelevant. FF went #1 there and HIAM and TTWE both went top 10 and multi-platinum in Australia, while HIAM reached #1 in New Zealand and again TTWE went top 10.
Britney is still big in Asia.
In fact she's bigger than Rihanna, Adele, Katy and all of the other pop girls except Avril, Gaga and MAYBE beyonce.
You tried though. ![violin](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/3e5dbfe7.gif)
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Member Since: 7/29/2010
Posts: 6,509
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Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainMusic
And she has 9 #1 hits in total which is the second highest amount for a female artist so i'm not sure what he was talking about...
Anyway though. I'll agree that Shakira IS global just not anywhere as global as you guys are making it seem like she is. Agree to disagree.
![](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fHsVqDjsbWM/TpOX7hzB6FI/AAAAAAAACo4/gc8QJIKdHVA/s401/rhobh-brandi-whatever.gif)
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oops sorry guys.. I MEANT year-end #1 WW chart.. ![cool](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/cool.gif)
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Member Since: 4/14/2012
Posts: 6,976
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Quote:
Originally posted by Acclaimed
Those numbers are such ********.
More like this:
The Remixes 1,000,000
¿Dónde Están los Ladrones? 8,000,000 (officially they say 10,000,000)
Laundry Service 15-16,000,000
Oral Fixation Vol. 2 7,000,000 (officially they say 8,000,000)
Fijación Oral Vol. 1 5,000,000
MTV Unplugged 7,000,000
Grandes Éxitos 2,500,000
She Wolf / Loba 1,800,000
Sale El Sol 2,600,000
How's that compared to:
Dangerously in Love 8,000,000
B'Day 4-5,000,000
I Am... Sasha Fierce 5-6,000,000
4 2,000,000
And what are you implying with those tour stats? She has 2 world tours that have earned in over 100 million each.
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It's funny how you decrease beyonce's by the hundred-thousands.but inflate shakira's by the millions.
DIL-8.8+
B'DAY-6.1+
IASF-7.4
4-2.6
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Shakira is also huge in the Middle East so include that one too.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
Posts: 17,221
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Quote:
Originally posted by Beyond The Fierce
Pies Descalzos 3,000,000
The Remixes 750,000
¿Dónde Están los Ladrones? 3,500,000
Laundry Service 13,000,000
Oral Fixation Vol. 2 5,000,000
Fijación Oral Vol. 1 4,000,000
MTV Unplugged 3,000,000
Grandes Éxitos 2,500,000
She Wolf / Loba 800,000
Sale El Sol 1,600,000
Total Album Sales 37,150,000
If Shakira is so much BIGGER worldwide why has she only sold 37-40 million albums with 8 albums (4 in the digital age)? Britney has sold DOUBLE that much. Gaga is nearing that total with only 3 proper releases.
Averaging 3-4 millions albums sold per album.
Tour of the Mongoose (31 Shows) $23,600,000
Oral Fixation (51 Shows) $49,900,000
The Sun Comes Out World Tour (47 Shows) $39,900,000
She's averaging out less than 1 million per show with some of these tours, according to Pollstar.
She only has 8 WORLDWIDE top tens according to Mediatraffic.
Facebook Likes aren't everything.
This so called English-speaking country mentality could be twisted around as well if you live in a Country Shakira is big in so don't use it.
Is Shakira a big Worldwide star? Yes. Is she the biggest worldwide? No.
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The **** are you getting these reciepts? Some of these have millions in difference between yours and the official ones ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif)
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
Posts: 12,811
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LMAO @ Shakira's been around for almost 15 years and does well everywhere EXCEPT the US. just because Americans have a really ass backward taste in music (And this isnt flame bait, this is true, its been proven over and over again, so think before you snitch) doesnt mean she isnt global.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
Posts: 17,221
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Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainMusic
Just because she doesn't do AS well in some continents as other artist doesn't mean she's completely irrelevant there like Shakira is in North America and Oceania.
Talk about reaching............
She's far from being irrelevant there when FF and its singles did well in several european countries.
Shakira is much bigger here YES, but Britney is NOT irrelevant in South America. FF and its singles did well in most south american countries.
Just because she's not as popular as she used to be there doesn't mean she's irrelevant. FF went #1 there and HIAM and TTWE both went top 10 and multi-platinum in Australia, while HIAM reached #1 in New Zealand and again TTWE went top 10.
Britney is still big in Asia.
In fact she's bigger than Rihanna, Adele, Katy and all of the other pop girls except Avril, Gaga and MAYBE beyonce.
You tried though. ![violin](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/3e5dbfe7.gif)
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Korea =/= Asia
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Member Since: 1/27/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Acclaimed
Those numbers are such ********.
More like this:
The Remixes 1,000,000
¿Dónde Están los Ladrones? 8,000,000 (officially they say 10,000,000)
Laundry Service 15-16,000,000
Oral Fixation Vol. 2 7,000,000 (officially they say 8,000,000)
Fijación Oral Vol. 1 5,000,000
MTV Unplugged 7,000,000
Grandes Éxitos 2,500,000
She Wolf / Loba 1,800,000
Sale El Sol 2,600,000
How's that compared to:
Dangerously in Love 8,000,000
B'Day 4-5,000,000
I Am... Sasha Fierce 5-6,000,000
4 2,000,000
And what are you implying with those tour stats? She has 2 world tours that have earned in over 100 million each.
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What kind of inflation?
IASF is at 7-7.5 million. B'day 6,200,000. And 4 is 2,500,000.
I think I got the last few a little wrong.
We weren't discussing Beyonce, but just so you know Beyonce averages out with better album sales despite Shakira being in the digital age. Destiny's Child/Beyonce has sold 20-23 million more than Shakira worldwide. And as the US and Japan are not on some planet far out of space we will include them. So technically speaking, she is bigger "worldwide."
I am... Tour averaged 1 million per show as well. Pollstar is an official source.
According to Google Trends, they're on the same level.
![](http://www.google.com/trends/viz?q=beyonce,+shakira&graph=weekly_img&sa=N)
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Member Since: 4/14/2012
Posts: 6,976
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North America - Beyonce
Oceania - Beyonce
South America - shakira.but bey has a huge market there to
Europe - both. Shakira has France Germany and more. Beyonce has the uk Spain Ireland and more
Asia. I don't know but Beyonce has been very successful there
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Member Since: 4/14/2012
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Member Since: 3/6/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by aaronsmithjune1
North America - Beyonce
Oceania - Beyonce
South America - shakira.but bey has a huge market there to
Europe - both. Shakira has France Germany and more. Beyonce has the uk Spain Ireland and more
Asia. I don't know but Beyonce has been very successful there
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Did you just say Beyoncé has Spain? Are you crazy? Or just not educated/informed about Shakira?
Shakira is the queen of Spain, even locals don't sell like her. Beyoncé has the UK and Ireland, that's it for Europe. ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif) I can't believe you think Beyoncé has Spain, she doesn't even have Italy, Shaki has Italy too. Oh god.
And Beyoncé doesn't have a huge market in South America, it's decent.
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Member Since: 4/14/2012
Posts: 6,976
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Quote:
Originally posted by Acclaimed
Did you just say Beyoncé has Spain? Are you crazy? Or just not educated/informed about Shakira?
Shakira is the queen of Spain, even locals don't sell like her. Beyoncé has the UK and Ireland, that's it for Europe. ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif) I can't believe you think Beyoncé has Spain, she doesn't even have Italy, Shaki has Italy too. Oh god.
And Beyoncé doesn't have a huge market in South America, it's decent.
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They are equally global.and the only European market that doesn't use bey is France & Germany.but she still sells there 2
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Member Since: 12/7/2011
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Of course! Her Live Album sold 1.5 Million Copies Worldwide, no shade though - I didn't even know it exists until I checked her discography. I mean for a Live Album.. 1.5 Million Copies sold in 2011? That's legacy right there.
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Member Since: 12/3/2010
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Shakira rules France, I'm pretty sure that's established. ![Celestial 5](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/9b5f67d8.gif)
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Member Since: 1/18/2012
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She isn't relevant in Australia/Oceania anymore. But in 2002? Yeah sure
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